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September 11, 2013 3:36:36 PM

hello i am new to water cooling but so far i believe i have done a lot of research on how to set it up and what liquid to use. all i really need is for some one to tell me if the parts i have picked out as a guide line are any good and which ones would be recommended. i am going to have my dad pick out tubing for me. He works at Parker and should be able get me some different types of tubing for me to try. if you got a american car most likely you got some hydraulic tubing in it from Parker lol i know i do.

IandH Silver KillCoils - Antimicrobial .999 Fine Silver Tubing / Reservoir Strip

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11441/ex-tub-705/Iand...



Alphacool Ultra Pure Water - 1000mL / Innovatek Protect 1 Liter Non-Conductive Water Cooling Fluid - ) (i think these 2 are the same thing)

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2120/ex-liq-19/Innova...

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14874/ex-liq-
202/Alphacool_Ultra_Pure_Water_-_1000mL.html



Black Ice GT Stealth 240 Radiator - Black
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4083/ex-rad-84/Black_...



XSPC 5.25" Bay Reservoir
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2184/ex-res-104/XSPC_...



EK Supremacy Universal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Full Copper (EK-Supremacy - Full Copper)

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16688/ex-blc-1180/EK_...



Swiftech MCP655™ 12v Water Pump w/ Speed Control and 3/8" Conversion Kit (317 GPH)

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6190/ex-pmp-54/Swifte...



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at some point i want to get a nvida card. im gonna wait till Maxwell is out and grab one that is stocked water cooled so i can have a warranty on it. i am also going to overclock my cpu. i know that just a 240mm radiator wont do later on but i will add another one or a larger one.

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September 11, 2013 4:31:08 PM

I don't see anything wrong with your part selection. There are so many different ways to set up a water cooling loop, and as long as you stick to the proven performers (like the parts you've identified) paired with an adequate pump (like the one you've selected), you're good.

I've been watercooling for about a decade, so i'm kind of an old school purist who just uses distilled, but i understand the appeal of some of the coolants people use. I'm just a tinkerer and like to be able to drain/refill my loop on a whim and inexpensively.
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September 11, 2013 5:12:56 PM

StephenP85 said:
I don't see anything wrong with your part selection. There are so many different ways to set up a water cooling loop, and as long as you stick to the proven performers (like the parts you've identified) paired with an adequate pump (like the one you've selected), you're good.

I've been watercooling for about a decade, so i'm kind of an old school purist who just uses distilled, but i understand the appeal of some of the coolants people use. I'm just a tinkerer and like to be able to drain/refill my loop on a whim and inexpensively.


well heres something i want to make sure of and haven't found any facts about that add up. is having a larger tubing size like 1/2 instead of 1/4 better for cooling or does it not help much? oh and one more thing. when i have a gpu water block or 2 should i use a y spliter and have one tubing for the gpu and one for the cpu then merge back to one tubing? or have it all in the same line? i most likely will have the tubing in the future run to the gpu(s) then to a rad to the cpu then another rad to the res then pump. sound good?
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September 11, 2013 5:47:14 PM

Assuming the pump power is adequate, the optimal tubing size is 7/16" or 1/2" -- not much benefit from going larger, but I've noticed too much restriction and poorer performance with smaller tubing.

Do not use any splitters. When you add a GPU block, simply add it to the loop at some point -- For example, if your loop order is this:

Reservoir -> Pump -> Radiator -> CPU Block -> back to Reservoir, etc.

Adding a GPU block, it might look like this:

Reservoir -> Pump -> GPU Block -> Radiator -> CPU Block -> back to Reservoir etc. (the order largely does not matter. Just arrange it so that there aren't any bends or sharp turns.)
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September 11, 2013 7:02:11 PM

StephenP85 said:
Assuming the pump power is adequate, the optimal tubing size is 7/16" or 1/2" -- not much benefit from going larger, but I've noticed too much restriction and poorer performance with smaller tubing.

Do not use any splitters. When you add a GPU block, simply add it to the loop at some point -- For example, if your loop order is this:

Reservoir -> Pump -> Radiator -> CPU Block -> back to Reservoir, etc.

Adding a GPU block, it might look like this:

Reservoir -> Pump -> GPU Block -> Radiator -> CPU Block -> back to Reservoir etc. (the order largely does not matter. Just arrange it so that there aren't any bends or sharp turns.)


one last thing before i give you the best solution. the rad i picked is 30 fpi. now if i were to just use normal case fans that only did 1200(the ones i my use are supposed to be 2000 max) would i get better or worse temps with lower fpi?
the fans i may use are these ever cool fans that are made up completely of aluminum. looks so cool
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September 11, 2013 7:34:01 PM

frogsot said:


one last thing before i give you the best solution. the rad i picked is 30 fpi. now if i were to just use normal case fans that only did 1200(the ones i my use are supposed to be 2000 max) would i get better or worse temps with lower fpi?
the fans i may use are these ever cool fans that are made up completely of aluminum. looks so cool


With that fin density, you are going to want powerful fans, ones that move a lot of air and are meant for radiators. One solutions are the Yate loons, but they are loud (I'd recommend a PWM fan controller). Another premium option are Scythe Gentle Typhoons. They are very quiet, durable fans that move a lot of air. I have them on my radiators, 1850rpm version.

Depending on your noise tolerance, a push/pull configuration would help. If you decide to go with a lower FPI radiator, you should get a thicker one, as surface area is the main determination of cooling capacity. A thicker radiator with lower FPI would give you more wiggle room in choosing fans to fit your noise tolerance.
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September 11, 2013 9:17:11 PM

StephenP85 said:
frogsot said:


one last thing before i give you the best solution. the rad i picked is 30 fpi. now if i were to just use normal case fans that only did 1200(the ones i my use are supposed to be 2000 max) would i get better or worse temps with lower fpi?
the fans i may use are these ever cool fans that are made up completely of aluminum. looks so cool


With that fin density, you are going to want powerful fans, ones that move a lot of air and are meant for radiators. One solutions are the Yate loons, but they are loud (I'd recommend a PWM fan controller). Another premium option are Scythe Gentle Typhoons. They are very quiet, durable fans that move a lot of air. I have them on my radiators, 1850rpm version.

Depending on your noise tolerance, a push/pull configuration would help. If you decide to go with a lower FPI radiator, you should get a thicker one, as surface area is the main determination of cooling capacity. A thicker radiator with lower FPI would give you more wiggle room in choosing fans to fit your noise tolerance.


ok thanks. i think for just cooling the cpu for now 4 of the ever cool fans i got will do nicely in a push pull setup. they should do fine since they are 2000 rpm fans though i think they only go about 2800. well thats the +/- 10% thing
oh and any idea what the temp of the water its self can reach? i dont want to pick something that could melt from the inside out
also going with a duel reservoir, not one with a pump but one for two bays just to have some extra cooling room in case of hiccups
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September 11, 2013 11:09:58 PM

You don't have to worry about the temperature of the water. Your radiator/fans will be trying to cool the water down to as close to room temp as possible. No risk there.
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