Doubtfull about CPU for a gaming PC

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Hello people

Ive been researching the internet for cpus for a gaming pc and i found marketing names and benchmarks sites to be quite unrelieble since omitted some features. I want to spend no more than 300 € on the processor so i first was going for the i5 3570k then i thought that moving a generation would be good so i was going for i5 4760k yet i heard that ivy breach matherboards oc better than 4rth generation i5s. i also read that xeon would have the 3570k performance+HT-iGPU therefore less heat yet no OC is all of this truth? if it is, is there a xeon cpu OCable? is it even worth OCing a i5 3570k lifespan-wise? i want stability as much as i want processing power. what is a another good choise for a gaming pc that shows significant more performance respect to the 3570 yet not costing too much more?

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There's really no hard lifespan figures to give simply because they last years (unless you deliberately fry them with far too much voltage) - far longer than the time it takes to become technologically outdated / obsolete. There have been overclocked CPU's in the past that still run fine 8-10 years later even at 60c temps throughout. If you're really worried, you can always just overclock it moderately 4.0-4.4GHz with as low a voltage as possible rather than aim for...
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Sandy / Ivy Bridge CPU's (like the 3570k) can overclock 10% better but the 4670k runs about 10% faster. Overall, there' s not much difference. If you want 3570k performance + HT + OC, you're better off getting an i7-3770k rather than a Xeon. OCing a 3570k is fine - it won't shorten the lifespan much (it'll be long obsolete before it "dies"). Even overclocked, modern CPU's last at least several years.
 
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Just get an i5 anything. Don't spend more money on the K (overclockable) versions of CPUs as it really is not that necessary these days for gaming. My i5-2500 Sandy Bridge at stock clocks only uses 60% or so gaming and I have a GTX 780...so it is not bottlenecking ( I would need to SLI 780's to see a small bottleneck).
 
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If you want to OC, then an i5-3570K is definitely a good choice. Moving a generation up won't

benefit you extraordinarily much on the performance side of things; while yes, it doesn't OC quite

as well it's said. An i5 would really be ideal for any sort of gaming. You should be careful not to overestimate

the value of OC'ing. In most cases it will not really increase performance in the sense that you get

more FPS in games. However it can definitely be fun to do and you can also learn a lot.

A Xeon CPU is for workstations I believe and thus shouldn't be considered at all.

If you do get an i5-3570K then you should definitely OC it. OC'ing can reduce lifespan, as well

as destroy whichever component you're OC'ing. It's rare however and there's plenty guides to follow.

The K in the name denotes that it's an unlocked CPU; meant for OC'ing. Thus if you don't want to OC, you're

able to get a non-K version (a.k.a SKU). For other CPUs that are quite well-regarded gaming ones, yet

cheaper usually, are ones like the Phenom ones and the FX line. Both from AMD. Check out the FX-6300

and FX-8350. The 8350 is more on-par with an i5. Remember to factor in that if you do opt for a 4th

generation Intel CPU, you'll have to factor in the cost of the equally more expensive motherboard too.
 
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Do keep in mind though that i7's don't really add anything much to gaming; considering their steep cost.

Thus an i5 is the CPU with the most value out of the two.
 
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thanks everyone for quick replays
so i think ill go with the i5 yet i would like to know how much would say it would last if i dont oc it, and how much if i do? can you advice me any motherboard and memory to match it that arent exesively expensive yet good ones?
 
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There's really no hard lifespan figures to give simply because they last years (unless you deliberately fry them with far too much voltage) - far longer than the time it takes to become technologically outdated / obsolete. There have been overclocked CPU's in the past that still run fine 8-10 years later even at 60c temps throughout. If you're really worried, you can always just overclock it moderately 4.0-4.4GHz with as low a voltage as possible rather than aim for extreeme +4.6GHz speeds, but whether you do that or not - it's going to last you years. "Electro-migration" is a problem with hardware designed to last over +20-30 years, not just 5 years or so for general usage PC's. Your chip will become too slow long before it "dies of old age" :D
 
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It's trivial to speak of how long it would last, seeing as it's going to be a solid CPU for a long

time to come. It has 4 cores and that's enough for todays and most of tommorrows games.

If you get a K sku, OC it. Or save some money if you want and don't OC. It won't make much of a

difference. Get some 8GB G.Skill or Corsair RAM, 2x8. Do you want a motherboard with SLI or CF

capabilites specifically?
 
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What is CF? I may be using SLI in the future yes.

 
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There's a sucker born every minute my friend and some people like to take advantage of that.
 
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