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As I can see, some people tell me that i7 and the ram isnt necessary. My goal is to have a good pc gaming for the 5 years to come. Is it okay. I don't want to increase price but also, I want my pc to be as actual as possible in the next year, not just being top notch for this one. If I could pay less I'd be really glad.

p.s sorry for my bad english

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($216.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2666 Memory ($246.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Sandisk 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($179.00 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($408.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1551.73
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-12 23:44 EDT-0400)
 
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Are you getting any constructive criticism? That's a decent build, the core CPU+GPU are great. I have a few thoughts/suggestions.
1) You don't list a case. Have you already got one?
2) That RAM is overkill IMHO. 1600 or 1866 RAM will do you fine. You're paying a large premium to go to that 2666Mhz RAM and I'd be surprised if you ever see any tangible benefit from it.
3) That's a top notch PSU, but overkill. If you want the option of adding a second GPU and doing some serious OCing, maybe you could justify 850W, maybe. But If you're happy with the system as is, a good 500+W unit would cover you even with OCing. You could also step down to something like the Corsair T series. You sacrifice a little efficiency (bronze instead...
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I'm new here but at another forum, people are currently laughing at me saying i'm noob and ignorant. So I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic here. My guess would be yes.
 
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Seriously, looks great, however may want to add a conventional platter type hard drive, also need an OS....Look at my sig, it's the same base as my rig, you should love it 4770K, Hero, 2666 Tri's, and I started with the Hyper212 which is great, runs good with this setup up to about 4.5 or so, I started with that because the cooler I wanted, the GTS V8 hadn't even been released yet, picked it up about a week later....should be happy with your rig
 
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Are you getting any constructive criticism? That's a decent build, the core CPU+GPU are great. I have a few thoughts/suggestions.
1) You don't list a case. Have you already got one?
2) That RAM is overkill IMHO. 1600 or 1866 RAM will do you fine. You're paying a large premium to go to that 2666Mhz RAM and I'd be surprised if you ever see any tangible benefit from it.
3) That's a top notch PSU, but overkill. If you want the option of adding a second GPU and doing some serious OCing, maybe you could justify 850W, maybe. But If you're happy with the system as is, a good 500+W unit would cover you even with OCing. You could also step down to something like the Corsair T series. You sacrifice a little efficiency (bronze instead of gold) but they're still good units.
4) Is there a particular reason you've spent up on a pretty high-end motherboard? Unless you have unusual requirements or want to pursue a serious overclock, pretty much any Z87 motherboard gives you all the features (SATA, USB, LAN) that you need.
5) You list an SSD but no HDD. The usual practice is an SSD for the OS and a few key apps, and a standard HDD for music/photos/videos, etc. If the 256GB is enough for you, fine, but many a game library will grow pretty large and having a cheap 2TB HDD drive is a good idea IMHO and adds very little (>$100) to the cost of the build.
 
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Actually those are solid choices. Not sure what forum you were at, but nothing looks noob about it.

 
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First of all thank you everyone for your kinds and constructives answers.



Intereting. I planned to use my actual Antec 1200 as a case, would it fit? Also, is SSD better for gaming than a traditionnal HDD? I have a 1TB that I plan to use as storage drive but i tought that SSD were faster for gaming.

So i've made some research and I've come with a new build. I changed the i7 for i5 because some people told me I would not notice the differences in games. If you think otherwise please tell me, I don't mind paying the difference between the two if it makes a difference.

Here it is :

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.60 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Plextor M5P Xtreme Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($397.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1234.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-13 00:18 EDT-0400)
 
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Okay! Here is my final pre-build! (lol) As you can see i changed the motherboard thanks to the advice of Tradesman1, I also changed the PSU for a smaller one.

Here it is! What do you think! (P.S I'm okay with the OS, casing, storage HDD)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($179.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.60 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($397.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1189.53
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-13 01:36 EDT-0400)
 
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Why? Everyone else I talked to said it was good, and reviews all over say they are very reliable, and on par with the other brands...? (I ordered my parts 3 days ago :p)

And I heard somewhere that MSI GPU into an MSI mobo has advantages for their onboard stuff...?
 
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I'd like to have your opinion about the video card. Someone told me to get 2x 760 instead a 770. I have to admit that when i read this that make sens http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/07/07/crunching-the-numbers-can-dual-269-nvidia-gtx-760s-outperform-a-999-titan/

and the card I would take would be the Gigabyte (GV-N760OC-2GD) GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5 | 1085MHz Clock, 6008MHz Memory | PCI Express 3.0, Dual-link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI, DisplayPort x2 (269$ x2)

or the

MSI Gaming N760 TF 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card (279$ x2)
 
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Of calls I get for repairs, problems, failures, etc more are on MSI mobos and any two other mobo manufacturers put together, one of the many reasons I stay away from them for builds, poor QC. On the GPU, I'd suggest the GB over the MSI in part for the same reason, just have no wish to deal with MSI and possible problems from poor quality control
 
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IMHO 2xMid range cards is not the best choice for a new build. When everything works you do get better frame rates than a single 770, but you have to deal with extra heat, noise, and potential driver and SLI scaling issues. Plus, no easy upgrade option down the track. You'll notice that Tom's (and many other sites) generally don't recommend multi-card setups until you get to the ultra high end: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-5.html - even though you can get better FPS for your $$s.

My advice would be to stick with a single 770, it's a solid card and you can always add a second one down the track if you find it's not cutting it anymore (which at 1080p, won't be for quite a while I suspect!).
 
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