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Alexander Osipov

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HI everyone, I"ve build only 1 PC before, works pretty well. It was about 4 years ago.
I'm thinking it's time to just build new one from scratch. I'm planning to use this computer primary for gaming and a little bit of video editing stuff, I'd like to be able to play latest titles and the ones that will come later. But it doesn't have to be on the max settings. But I'd like to build a system so I don't have to worry about upgrading for some time. I am not planning on overclocking, unless there is a need for it, or you guys tell me that its a right thing to do.

The budget is around $1400, I mean if there is a good reason for something, I'll add couple hundred, really depends on the value for the money thing, like liquid cooling, or larger SSD or something else.

Here's the build, all prices are from newegg.ca:
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) ($239.99)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 ($148.99)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ($78.99)
Graphics Card: GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 ($324.99)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB-7 2.5" 240GB ($169.99)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda STBD3000100 3TB 7200 RPM ($159.99)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2-White Edition ($149.99)
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V ($89.99)
Cooling: None, for now. Only the ones that come with the case.
DVD Burner: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X ($19.99)

Total: $1,382.91

I have couple questions:
#1 - Is there anything major that I've missed? Like something that maybe is not competable?
#2 - Do i have enough power? 750w
#3 - Should i go with liquid cooling? (I know it will be over budget, but if it's worth it, I'll do it)
#4 - Case, I have full tower, and I like that there is space. But not sure if i choose a good one.
#5 - Any additional suggestions, maybe there is something better.

Thank you guys, I really appreciate your help!

IMPORTANT: Thread is moved, I've changed my build completely and because of that, I've created a new thread, so please go to this link: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1805713/gaming-system.html
 
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-the minimum for a SSD for me is 128gb the 128gb model is pretty cheap
-raid arrays are completely useless. dont even bother
-the 7970 is unbeatable for the money period. the next card that is slightly higher in performance is the 770 which is a extra hundrecd dollars

for your rig
-you might as well get haswell
-you lack a CPU cooler which is mandatory for overclocking
-you run ram in sets of 2 and always buy in sets of 2
-small SSD wont you any good
-raid 0 is useless and WD blacks are no better than seagates for half the price
-the 760 is weak compared to the 7970 and extra vram is completely useless. its a scam otherwise
-you dont need a huge case nor such an expensive one
-if you arent going to crossfire or SLI, get the xfx 550w...
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Was unable to open the line need account info but heres what your budget should let you do.

A 750 platinum or gold psu will let you do plenty. Don't bother with water cooling spend the money on some high quality fans with a high CFM (cubic feet a minute) rating and make sure you place them correctly pull in from the front, draw out the back. With that you current case should be more that enough. SSD's are nice but very expensive. Get a small one for your OS and drivers only then get a decent sized HDD or two and before you know it you will have 1-2TB of storage with a rig that boots up quickly.

Hope you can give me more info about the parts you are looking at and have.
 
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Alexander Osipov

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OMG guys, I'm so sorry that the link didn't work.

Here is the list.

Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) ($239.99)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 ($148.99)
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 ($78.99)
Graphics Card: GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 ($324.99)
Hard Drive: Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB-7 2.5" 240GB ($169.99)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda STBD3000100 3TB 7200 RPM ($159.99)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2-White Edition ($149.99)
Power Supply: CORSAIR CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V ($89.99)
Cooling: None, for now. Only the ones that come with the case.
DVD Burner: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X ($19.99)

Total: $1,382.91

@TheBigTroll Yeah, i used it as the shopping ground cause it was easier for me to find certain products. I might not buy from newegg.
 
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Alexander Osipov

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No I am in Vancouver, BC. Sorry =)
 
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kinda sucks given they had a sale last month and stuff was dirt cheap but anyways

get this
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1DhLi

-CPu cooler is cheaper at ncix
-price match the hard drive or anything at ncix

go buy instore and bargain with the sales reps, you should be able to shave a extra hundred or 200 dollars off the total build. if you have a chinese friend as well that is willing to help you, it helps with the bargaining :)
 
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Ok man thanks for the info. First PC part picker is the best just discovered it yesterday and its helped me big time with my build so use it. A couple of questions. Can you live with a smaller ,say 50GB or so, SSD it will be much cheaper and you could spend that money on a better graphics card or two HDD that you could set up a raid array to give you faster read write times and as for the GPU I would go with NVIDIA. Any way I went of PC part picker and this is what I came up with http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1DAXq hope you like it

 
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-the minimum for a SSD for me is 128gb the 128gb model is pretty cheap
-raid arrays are completely useless. dont even bother
-the 7970 is unbeatable for the money period. the next card that is slightly higher in performance is the 770 which is a extra hundrecd dollars

for your rig
-you might as well get haswell
-you lack a CPU cooler which is mandatory for overclocking
-you run ram in sets of 2 and always buy in sets of 2
-small SSD wont you any good
-raid 0 is useless and WD blacks are no better than seagates for half the price
-the 760 is weak compared to the 7970 and extra vram is completely useless. its a scam otherwise
-you dont need a huge case nor such an expensive one
-if you arent going to crossfire or SLI, get the xfx 550w. gold efficiency at low wattages wont make a single difference and considering how my unit is both superior in quality and in wattage quantity, silverstone is a complete no go
 
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Ok points 1 & 2 fair enough but the cooler can come later and boards for haswell can be a bit pricey
point 3 is rubbish I have 12gb of ram and I have had no problems
point 4 a small SSD still give you a much faster boot up time than any HDD except perhaps the WD raptors
point 5 raid 0 is always a option my two HDDs in raid give me a faster PC and have never failed ,5+ years old each, as for the WD blacks they are slightly faster and are good options for RAID
point 6 im an nvida guy so that was total down to personal preference.
point 7 again personal preference full tower cases are good in long term also for a rig like this its nice to have a good looking case I like the storm trooper
point 8 that was a budget decision had a quick look at reviews and for the money it looked like the right choice though XFX, seasonic, corsair all make better PSU's.
 
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-the difference is 10 dollars. its not pricy -_-
-bs? when you run 3 sticks of ram in a dual channel optimized board, you effectively run all three sticks in single channel mode, dropping your performance instantly.
-WDs are slower than seagates. dont know where you have been, but WD never updates their platter technology and density, hence you still have a 3 platter config on a 1tb drive while seagate uses a single platter. less moving parts = more reliabilty and less noise
-it doesnt. what makes a pc feel fast is the IOPS rate. on a ssd, the IOPS rate sits at around 50k to 100k per second while hard drives stay around 1000 or so. raid might improve sequential read and write speeds but IOPS rates do not improve like in common misconceptions. you will never get the speeds and snappiness provided by a SSD even a cheapo one
-your welcome to pay the extra hundred dollars to get the 770 if you want 7970 level performance because a 760 will get smacked down by the 7970 in everything. plus, 3 free AAA titles. i have a 670 and a 7770 and there is no clear benefit of one over the other in terms of overall experience (the 670 is obviously more powerful though)
-boards never get bigger, there is no benefit in the long run. what might look nice now to you will not look nice in 5 years.
 
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I understand what you have said. The choices I made were made on nearly 10 years experience in the world of personal computers and personal preference. I gave my opinions and some the reasons behind them my advice was to Mr Osipov not to your self you will not change you opinion any more than i will change mine. So I am ending this before I become bored.
 
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Alexander Osipov

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Hey guys, thank you for your contribution!!! I like the debate, even though I don't understand anything in "Raid" lol

I'm working on revamping a new build, as I keep reading and learning new things, my build keeps changing. At this point there is not much left from the old build. I'll post a link with a new system build pretty soon.
 
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