Have a Budget Computer, Want a GTX 760. Is it compatible?

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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum, but I've been reading here before, lots of good information. I live in Ecuador, South America.

I currently have a computer that I built on a budget two-three years ago. Specs:

MoBo: Foxconn G41MX-F 2.0
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5700 3.00GHz
RAM: 2+2 GB Kingston DDR2 800 MHz (only use 3.12 GB due to x86)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7200RPM
600 Watt PSU, no GPU power connectors.

Monitor is a HP LP2065, DVI inputs, max resolution 1600x1200.

I want to upgrade my computer to run Lumion3D (realtime architectural visualization, min passmark 1500) and maybe also some nice games.

The Nvidia GeForce GTX 760 2GB apparently has good reviews and a very good rating, and it is in my price range.

I don't want any overclocking on it. It is very hot here at times and I don't want my GPU to be damaged due to heat. If I have done my reading correctly overclocking the GPU will make it heat up more.

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure if it's going to be compatible with my computer (apart from the PSU). I also am not sure if I will need more graphics memory. That's where I appreciate your input and help :)

BTW I plan on doing more upgrades with time, eventually get a SSD and run a x64 system on it.

Thank you,

André
 
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With that money, I would get a new CPU and Motherboard + RAM, so you do not bottleneck it severly,
 
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The GTX 760 requires 2 6 pin pci-e power connectors. What is the make/model of your PSU? You may be able to get an adapter, but only if the PSU's +12v rail is strong enough to support it.

However, the card will be severely bottlenecked by your system. I'd recommend taking the money for the card and updating the whole platform. PCpartpicker doesn't appear to have an option for south america, so here are some general suggestions

for about the same price of the card, you can get all of the following.

- get a late model G series pentium or celeron CPU.
- get a motherboard with an H61 chipset, these are pretty cheap now (esp. the micro ATX), and with a BIOS update, can support the 3xxx I-series of intel chips, so you'll have a long upgrade path.
- get 4gb DDR3 (cas 9 latency) on one stick, preferably with a heatsink. (the micro ATX boards tend to have 2 RAM slots, so this will allow at least 8gb total)
- a modern entry level gaming card (or save up for a stronger card)


Here's how it prices out in the U.S. (a gtx 760 is $250 here)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G870 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($32.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $227.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-15 15:07 EDT-0400)

that build will give you better gaming performance than a gtx 760 in your current system, as well as a long upgrade path.
 
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Thanks a lot. Is there any way to thank a user individually? All of you deserve thanks.

You have made me reconsider my decision. I thought my computer would instantly become a gaming computer by adding a high end video card.

I have been doing some research locally, with cheapest prices available (import price).

Processor

There's no Pentium G870 available from this importer, but they have Pentium G2020 and Pentium G2030 for $75 and $81 in that order. The G2030 seem to be a bit newer and better than the G870, and $4 less than quoted price.
(The other less desired choice (by me) is i3, but I've gotten the impression that they cost too much for their performance. I don't really understand the advantage, and their different generations confuse me.)

Mainboard

They have this nice MoBo: ASUS P8H61-M LX
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LX/#specifications
It does not have PCI Express 3.0, only 2.0, and I don't know if that's bad in my case. I have some brand affection for ASUS after using one of their laptops - very solid, quality product.
Now that I check, it seems to be an older product. How does this compare for $53?
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4127#sp


RAM

As for RAM, I don't understand what quilciri says about cas9. What does this influence? Where does the requirement come from?
Anyway, I have a preference for Kingston memory, despite the premium. I have never had something Kingston failing.
Kingston DDR3 4GB is all the info they have, $47.

Graphics

I have something against Radeon. Prefer Nvidia. Would the GTX760 still be bottlenecked by the above system? What would be an appropiate (Nvidia please) GPU that matches the system described above?

Thank you,

Andre
 
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It seems the G2030 is the best option for me. It is quite recent, has a high passmark score, it's available, and it's cheap.

I'll have to do more reading on the motherboards available (Mostly ASUS and Gigabyte) and also find out about the RAM - likely 1x 4GB strip. With heatsink, not so likely.

I read that there's about 1% more performance on PCIe 3.0 - and cards that require 3.0 are not even on the market yet, so it will not be my aim.

Here are some motherboards I've been looking at. They all seem to be 2012 MoBos:

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LX/ $71 - Not much more for the extra cost. (serial and parallel ports - seriously? is this like year 2001?)

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000568 This looks quite nice for $54. Foxconn has served me well so far, no problems on current system.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4127#ov $53. Not really a big fan of Gigabyte. Unless you tell me to :)
 
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I think I know what I will get.

It's the Foxconn H61MX-E - $55

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/ProductDetail.aspx?T=motherboard&U=en-us0000568

And this processor:

Intel G2030 3.0 GHz 3M Cache - $82

http://ark.intel.com/products/74749/

As for DDR3 RAM, I will have to look around elsewhere, they don't have it in stock currently and they don't say what latency it is. As for the clock speed, the mainboard supports 1600 but if I understand correctly the processor doesn't. I think I'll just go with 1333.

What do you think, please reply soon if you can since I might place my order this afternoon.

 
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Thank you, that clears it up a lot. I looked around town and I found a place where they have Kingston DDR3 - 4GB - 1333MHz - CL9. Going to buy it tomorrow for $55.

I ordered the processor and mainboard today, they will be here tomorrow. They had sold all their Foxconn MoBo's so I had to get a GigaByte GA-H61M-S1 MoBo instead. Don't know what revision it is, we'll see tomorrow.

The processor hasn't changed, it's the Pentium G2030 3.0GHz.

Thank you all for replying, you all have helped me make a good desicion however best answer goes to u_gonna_squeal_b4_we_cookya due to his recurrent helpfulness.

Andre
 
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