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IPS Vs. 120-144Hz Monitor

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September 16, 2013 10:06:30 AM

So I'm confused about some things. I understand there is a payoff between these two monitors, but the reason i was looking into a 120-144Hz monitor was because I game heavily.

The thing is, I was under the impression that getting a monitor over 60Hz would allow me to remove Vsync from my games, completely, increasing my FPS, or if need be, enabling Nvidia's adaptive Vsync in case I'm playing an indie game or Minecraft perhaps.


Is it really necessary for me to get a monitor over 60Hz? I'm just confused about how Vsync would affect my games if I kept it on.



If my card can handle FPS rates between 50 - above 60, should I even bother looking into the 120-144Hz monitors?


Would I be able to just get a nice and crisp IPS display and hover right at that 50-60 FPs mark?

Would Nvidia's adaptive Vsync help me out with only a 60Hz screen?

all help would be appreciated!

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September 16, 2013 10:15:04 AM

True. You don't need vsync on a 120Hz display, intact its a detriment as it increases GPU load, creates input lag, and theres no real improvement in image quality as tearing is already near non existent, regardless of what framerate you are at. Kind of pointless to use it ever. If you want a more crisp image with less jaggies, go for a 1440p panel, if you want 0 input lag and no vertical tearing, go with 120Hz. But, you could have both if you go with one of those Korean overclockable displays.

Also Nvidia's adaptive vsync is a load of crap.
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September 16, 2013 10:21:35 AM

cookybiscuit said:
True. You don't need vsync on a 120Hz display, intact its a detriment as it increases GPU load, creates input lag, and theres no real improvement in image quality as tearing is already near non existent, regardless of what framerate you are at. Kind of pointless to use it ever. If you want a more crisp image with less jaggies, go for a 1440p panel, if you want 0 input lag and no vertical tearing, go with 120Hz. But, you could have both if you go with one of those Korean overclockable displays.

Also Nvidia's adaptive vsync is a load of crap.



nice to see you again cooky :)  i guess i should go with the 120Hz? i mean the IPs is something im really interested in, but, if the headaches from Vsync are that annoying, which I have dealt with before, I think going with the 120Hz is a better option. I mean, im just worried about the color and black levels on the 120Hz monitors. Heard the color isnt that good :/ 
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September 16, 2013 10:23:38 AM

You can get best of both worlds - QNIX 2710 PLS is a 1440p 27" monitor is Samsungs version of IPS but they normally overclock to 96hz-120hz (mine is currently at 120hz)

I recently paired it up with the BenQ XL2420T 1080p 24" 120hz TN monitor, and while the motion clarity is better (with lightboost hack) - it wasnt worth the tradeoffs for me. I returned it 4 days later.

Even 60fps on a 120hz panel is better than on a 60hz - no tearing at all and no input lag from vsync.
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September 16, 2013 10:26:49 AM

I'm using a VG278H, contrast and black levels are crap, TN displays are never any good for that. You pretty much can't have both unless you go with a Korean display, which actually isn't that big a deal as the X-Star ones are like $300, IPS, 1440p, overclock it yourself to 120Hz. Though I hear the manufacturers don't take returns on things like backlight bleed, so its a bit risky.
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September 16, 2013 10:30:12 AM

To be clear, even with 120hz, you get tearing without v-sync. It is just less noticeable, unless your FPS are almost at 120 as well, then it becomes very noticeable. I still prefer to go without v-sync in most cases, even with 120hz.

As far as what is better, 120hz or 1440p, well, that depends on what is important to you. Everyone is different.

If you are a person who is most interested in the best picture quality, then 1440p wins, but if fluid animations and instantaneous response to move movements, then 120hz with Lightboost is probably best.

I personally get sick with poor response times, so I went 120hz, but unless you are a professional gamer, the choice for you is a lot tougher.
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September 16, 2013 10:39:49 AM

bystander said:
To be clear, even with 120hz, you get tearing without v-sync. It is just less noticeable, unless your FPS are almost at 120 as well, then it becomes very noticeable. I still prefer to go without v-sync in most cases, even with 120hz.

As far as what is better, 120hz or 1440p, well, that depends on what is important to you. Everyone is different.

If you are a person who is most interested in the best picture quality, then 1440p wins, but if fluid animations and instantaneous response to move movements, then 120hz with Lightboost is probably best.

I personally get sick with poor response times, so I went 120hz, but unless you are a professional gamer, the choice for you is a lot tougher.



im using a discontinued acer s211 21.5 inch monitor that i got for around 120$. honestly despite some slight bleeding at the very very bottom, the color reproduction is absolutely amazing. granted, besides my cheap 32 inch led tv, this is the "best" contrasted monitor ive ever used. so honestly, if going with a 120Hz from Asus or BenQ gives me the same kind of color that i can deal with, ill just go with one of those.
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September 16, 2013 10:48:26 AM

Marshall Hurtado said:
bystander said:
To be clear, even with 120hz, you get tearing without v-sync. It is just less noticeable, unless your FPS are almost at 120 as well, then it becomes very noticeable. I still prefer to go without v-sync in most cases, even with 120hz.

As far as what is better, 120hz or 1440p, well, that depends on what is important to you. Everyone is different.

If you are a person who is most interested in the best picture quality, then 1440p wins, but if fluid animations and instantaneous response to move movements, then 120hz with Lightboost is probably best.

I personally get sick with poor response times, so I went 120hz, but unless you are a professional gamer, the choice for you is a lot tougher.



im using a discontinued acer s211 21.5 inch monitor that i got for around 120$. honestly despite some slight bleeding at the very very bottom, the color reproduction is absolutely amazing. granted, besides my cheap 32 inch led tv, this is the "best" contrasted monitor ive ever used. so honestly, if going with a 120Hz from Asus or BenQ gives me the same kind of color that i can deal with, ill just go with one of those.


I am not sure what panel type that Acer was. No where I search tells me. All the 120hz monitors are TN, which are low end for color production, though some are better than others.
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September 16, 2013 10:51:44 AM

bystander said:
Marshall Hurtado said:
bystander said:
To be clear, even with 120hz, you get tearing without v-sync. It is just less noticeable, unless your FPS are almost at 120 as well, then it becomes very noticeable. I still prefer to go without v-sync in most cases, even with 120hz.

As far as what is better, 120hz or 1440p, well, that depends on what is important to you. Everyone is different.

If you are a person who is most interested in the best picture quality, then 1440p wins, but if fluid animations and instantaneous response to move movements, then 120hz with Lightboost is probably best.

I personally get sick with poor response times, so I went 120hz, but unless you are a professional gamer, the choice for you is a lot tougher.



im using a discontinued acer s211 21.5 inch monitor that i got for around 120$. honestly despite some slight bleeding at the very very bottom, the color reproduction is absolutely amazing. granted, besides my cheap 32 inch led tv, this is the "best" contrasted monitor ive ever used. so honestly, if going with a 120Hz from Asus or BenQ gives me the same kind of color that i can deal with, ill just go with one of those.


I am not sure what panel type that Acer was. No where I search tells me. All the 120hz monitors are TN, which are low end for color production, though some are better than others.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... theres my acer
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September 16, 2013 10:58:10 AM

Based on the viewing angle given, I'm guessing it is a TN monitor.
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September 16, 2013 11:02:55 AM

bystander said:
Based on the viewing angle given, I'm guessing it is a TN monitor.


im honestly not sure :s. when i move around it to look at the viewing angles, the only thing i see is a change in color temperature. i can still look at it at a 45 degree angle, just with a warmer or cooler temp. so i beleive it is tn
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September 16, 2013 11:07:33 AM

Marshall Hurtado said:
bystander said:
Based on the viewing angle given, I'm guessing it is a TN monitor.


im honestly not sure :s. when i move around it to look at the viewing angles, the only thing i see is a change in color temperature. i can still look at it at a 45 degree angle, just with a warmer or cooler temp. so i beleive it is tn


That is what TN panels do. The color every so slightly changes when seen at different angles. To some this is more distracting than to others. I suppose if you got used to an IPS panel, it would be more glaring to you.
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September 16, 2013 11:29:33 AM

bystander said:
Marshall Hurtado said:
bystander said:
Based on the viewing angle given, I'm guessing it is a TN monitor.


im honestly not sure :s. when i move around it to look at the viewing angles, the only thing i see is a change in color temperature. i can still look at it at a 45 degree angle, just with a warmer or cooler temp. so i beleive it is tn


That is what TN panels do. The color every so slightly changes when seen at different angles. To some this is more distracting than to others. I suppose if you got used to an IPS panel, it would be more glaring to you.


i agree. thats why i think, for lack of a better term, i could just get used to any TN 120-144Hz monitor and still be satisfied with it. viewing angles isnt entirely the most important thing to me, as the screen will be directly in front of me at eye level, approximately 2.1-2.3ft from my eyes.
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