RAZER Gaming Equipments

Selman Tabet

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I'm planning to buy either a DeathStalker Ultimate or BlackWidow Ultimate Stealth,
I'm also considering to buy either the Ouroboros or a Naga Hex, I know that they're the best keyboards and mice out there last time I checked, I mainly play FPS, and I don't really know what to choose between the Ouroboros or the Naga Hex, the Ouroboros has a high DPI and a dedicated DPI clutch button, as well as it has an awesome design, the Naga Hex has these 6 buttons on the left side of the mouse (I'm right handed)..
I need suggestions for better keyboards or mice, and money isn't much of a problem, I just want the ultimate gaming kit for the best experience.

I'm also considering buying either, a Kraken 7.1 or a Tiamat 7.1?? What's the difference between these two, you can suggest me any better 7.1 headset, I want the best 7.1 surround headset ever!!
 
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The Deathstalker is a joke. It uses chiclet-style keys and offers little to no usable feedback. I have a Blackwidow Ultimate and use it as my primary board. That said, there are better available. I continue to use mine simply because it's backlit and the Ryos Pro isn't out yet. I have had issues with multiple switch failures, which started occurring within a month of the warranty ending. If you have the savvy, it's easy enough to fix.

If money isn't a concern, I would strongly recommend choosing a mechanical board. Nothing with membrane switches is going to be better, though there are some good membrane boards out there. I have Cherry MX boards from Rosewill and Tt as well. Both are better builds than the Blackwidow, with the Tt being...

Gunny1993

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On the Razer equipment, you'll find people divided, some love them but other (like me) really aren't a fan. Their stuff looks good but it tends to break after a year or so.

I much prefer Logiteck for mice and looking around at reviews it looks like Corsair's K90 is a real nice keyboard.

On the 7.1 stuff it's another tough issue, you have two choice true 7.1 or emulated ... true is crap atm as the cost of putting all those speakers in a headset is silly and leads to reduced quality. Me I would ignore Razer totally and get a pair of Astros, bought mine 2 years ago and they still work amazingly and are comfy as all hell. The also apparently have the best emulation software for 5.1 and 7.1. (Again i'm biased against all razer equipment and you'll probably be able to find someone who says the exact opposite.)

From my understanding of how 5.1 works you need a sound card capable of encoding and transmitting the dolby audio package and then a piece of software in the headset or amp to decode that signal into the emulated sound to get the best quality.
 

gbryan101

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The Deathstalker is a joke. It uses chiclet-style keys and offers little to no usable feedback. I have a Blackwidow Ultimate and use it as my primary board. That said, there are better available. I continue to use mine simply because it's backlit and the Ryos Pro isn't out yet. I have had issues with multiple switch failures, which started occurring within a month of the warranty ending. If you have the savvy, it's easy enough to fix.

If money isn't a concern, I would strongly recommend choosing a mechanical board. Nothing with membrane switches is going to be better, though there are some good membrane boards out there. I have Cherry MX boards from Rosewill and Tt as well. Both are better builds than the Blackwidow, with the Tt being the best of all three. If you know what switches you would want, that would help narrow down a good board for you. If you need more info, just ask. Mechanical planks are sort of my thing. Whatever you want in a board, someone probably makes it.

As for the mouse, I actually prefer the Deathadder for a FPS, unless you are playing something with complex keybindings that would benefit from more macros. Historically, Razer hasn't had the best luck with their rechargeable batteries, which has kept me using my Deathadder even as I add more MMOs to my library. The Ouroboros and Naga are both good mice, and I like that the Ouroboros uses a rechargeable AA which you can replace on your own. I do not think it is worth $150 unless you have some incredible need to precisely configure your mouse, though you should be free to do that if you want. I have a friend who actually had his hand crushed and pretty much has to use such a mouse. He uses a Mad Catz R.A.T. I think it's a 9, but I don't know for sure.

For the headset, you are probably going to want digital surround. As great as the Tiamat 7.1 sounds on paper, it sort of falls short in execution. I absolutely love the idea, but it inherently limits the depth of bass and gives less than stellar sound quality. Give it another gen or two and it will probably be there. I personally use a pair of Megalodon 7.1s. This is a USB headset and works by taking over audio processing from computer. The biggest problem with these and other similar headsets is that they can be buggy. You have to mind USB suspend settings, keep track of the mixer on both the computer and the headset itself, and hope to hell it doesn't screw itself up when your back is turned. Also, forget about using it Linux. I spent four or five hours spitting code into the terminal trying to fix it, to no avail. Also, the headset itself is very delicately built, something shared across the Razer line. They are well made, just delicate. If you are moderately careful, you should be fine. As above, I like Astros, though they are a bit spendy.

In short, I have some $350 in Razer peripherals and they are okay. Would I do it again? Probably not, but they all work together well. Synapse has improved greatly and is actually useful. Their customer service, while not great, is nowhere near as bad as some say.

I would suggest looking at Coolermaster and Tt for the board. A Razer mouse is fine, but maybe look at the Roccat Kone X or a better Logitech. Astro would be a good headset, though I do like my Razer and even the Turtle Beach (I know, crucify me) I had before it.
 
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vipervoid1

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I have be user of Death Adder for about half year , I have no problem with it.
But like the high-end mice or keyboard from Razer , from all the tech forum , I saw in internet , it is not whole of buying is the opinion from the user , and it wont last for long , they said Razer = Advertisement and cheap product.
My brother have 3.5G Death Adder Black Edition for about 2 years then he got a problem with it then do a RMA of it.
So from my opinion , It is better to get others brand like SteelSeries or Logitech , it might last longer than Razer , if u dont mind the product quality , u can give it a try ~
 

gbryan101

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Viper, your brother was really lucky with his Deathadder, having one of the versions with a 2 year warranty. I can say that Razer was great on things still in warranty, but they pretty much disappear the second the warranty ends, and I am not just talking about getting an RMA. They won't help you troubleshoot, help you find parts, or do much of anything after the warranty is up.

It's definitely a "keep the box" sort of thing.
 

Hyaku

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Hello, I've used Razer peripherals for years now, Recently I upgraded to the Black Widow Stealth and the Deathadder 2013, the brown key-caps on the black widow sound amazing however I keep wishing I would've went with the "non-stealth" I find it a lot easier to type on the blue. In terms of mice, go with either the new Naga 2014, I got to try it out a few days ago at the computer store and it was awesome, or get a Deathadder, I've used a Deathadder for 2 years now and I love it. Great tracking and it's super accurate.

Edit; I've also used the Cyborg Rat, Logitech's G600 and G710+ which I both were nice, I switched back to my Deathadder after a few weeks tho, the mouse was too big for me. The G710+ was the first "gaming" keyboard I bought and I used it for a few months before I got the Black Widow.
 

Selman Tabet

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My brief research concludes that the best gaming Mice are R.A.T9 and Ouroboros, and the K90 and DeathStalker are awesome I say, I personally tried a BlackWidow, it's hard to get used to, but looks amazing.. The Tiamat's design isn't as good as Astros, but they're more or less the same in terms of sound quality, I must say, Razer's product quality might not be that good, but they totally made some effort on designing its products.. I personally own a Beats By Dr. Dre DETOX (Pro Limited Edition) which I bought for $640 (yeah, so expensive because the production was permanently stopped, and limited stock left over), and I must say their quality and bass are amazing.. I don't know if they would suit for gaming purpose, that's why I'm planning to buy an ASUS Xonar Essence STX dedicated for music listening with Beats, and use the onboard sound card Creative Audio Sound Core3D on the ASRock Extreme11, will the onboard sound perform well in virtualizing 7.1 audio for FPS gaming?
So for that, I'm planning to buy a Tiamat 7.1. As for the mouse, the Ouroboros looks amazing compared to RAT, and has more features.. and I would buy the DeathStalker Ultimate because the look cool, K90s have better quality, but they suck in terms of design.

Bottomline, Tiamat 7.1, DeathStalker Ultimate and Ouroboros (not biased) >.>
Anything bad about the set up? Enlighten me :)