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[AMD FX-8350 CPU + Radeon HD 7850 Gaming] PC vs PS4? And can my PC run BF4?

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September 17, 2013 7:09:17 PM

Hello,

Sorry if there is similar threads already made but currently I am stuck between building a mid-range PC (in December) using AMD FX-8350 8 Core CPU, Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 and 4GB DDR3 (might upgrade to 8GB) vs the spec of PS4.

Here are my "soon-to-be" PC specs:

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A97-R2 970 AM3 DDR3 Motherboard, Windows 8 READY [$120]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9651

CPU: AMD AM3+ x8 FX-8350 4.0Ghz/8Core/16M/125W [$230]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9742

GPU: AMD Gigabyte GV-R785OC-2GD 2GB 7850 PCI-E VGA Card [$200]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8723


OR

Sapphire SA-7870-2GD5-OC-V2 2GB 7870-OC PCI-E VGA [$225]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8937#

MEMORY (RAM): G.Skill-NT 4GB Single DDR3 1600 F3-1600C11S-4GNT [$41]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9823

STORAGE: WD 3.5" WD5000AAKX "Blue" SATA3 500GB 7200rpm 16M Cache [$56]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7112

POWER SUPPLY: Aerocool VP450 450W True Power Supply Unit PSU [$50]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=10873

*May drop Power Supply ^ for built in-PSU case.

CASE (w/ PSU): SHAW GT-DF3 GT-Defence-Three USB3.0 Gaming Tower Case with EVO-775Max PSU [$37]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9806

Total: ~$750


Not really sure what to go for and I have $750 to spent. I am not concerned of what games to buy at launch, controller preference, exclusives, or even upgrade. I just want to know how well will my PC (which I might build in December) will do against the PS4?

Just a factor to note in the PS4 is an optimised gaming machine, the PC requires drivers and patches to make sure it runs properly. In this case I want to use BF4 as reference, according to the Recommended Requirements it requires an AMD 6-Core CPU, 8GB of RAM and HD 7870 2GB. I think my CPU is well over the Recommended requirements but my GFX Card do not but it is close.
Not sure about the PS4 but do you think I will be able to run this game on High 1080p ~60FPS? I don't really mind bumping down the anti-aliasing and shadow quality since I have gotten used to the PS3's 704p, low quality, 30FPS and no AA.

To sum up, what I really want to ask is how well does my soon-to-be PC compared to Next-gen? Is it slightly inferior or superior? And how well will my mid-range specs run on BF3 or BF4's Medium or High settings?

Also an extra question but should I be using Intel i5 3570 over FX-8350? Because FX-8350 seems to be more affordable.

Thanks for the help!

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September 17, 2013 7:16:47 PM

I also found this in another thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1726032/video-ca...

HD 7850:
GPU: 1.76 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1024
64 Texture Units
32 Color ROP Units
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 153 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
Core Clock: 860MHz
Memory Clock: 4.8 Gbps

PS4 spec:
GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1152
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 176 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
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September 17, 2013 7:55:52 PM

I take it you live in Australia?
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September 17, 2013 8:20:44 PM

If you want a PC this is what I could do for you.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($179.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($103.05 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $751.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 13:19 EST+1000)

One thing about a PC is that the level of graphics the games can be played at will surpass a console's capabilities within the first 3 months of the console being out. If you truly want your games to look fantastic, build a budget gaming computer and upgrade it over time.
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September 17, 2013 8:33:09 PM

Yes I live in Australia.

Also I am already set for the FX-8350 and the HD 7850. I will decide to upgrade over to the 7870 or even skip 7850 and go with 7870 at the start. Might upgrade to FX-90xx series in a month or two.

Also thepinkanator95 your specs are very good, but I like to be close as possible to BF4's 7870 recommendation thats why I considered FX-8350 + 7850 in the first place. Though the 7870 is only $20 more, I guess I will go with 7870 and it is already enough to overpower the PS4 with FX-8350 + HD 7870. Upgrading to FX-90xx or HD 79xx will be my next goal.
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September 20, 2013 5:09:35 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($319.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Total: $635.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-20 22:06 EST+1000)

Here is the 7950 you requested. 7970 is going to blow your $750 budget. I kept the FX-6300 on there because games are just now starting to dabble in using 6 cores. I highly doubt BF4 will be able to use 8 cores. You can upgrade the processor later when you have saved money, but this build will let you play BF4 on high/ultra.
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September 23, 2013 2:43:06 AM

o0LuNeStA0o said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-111961...

What about that? I'm not sure how much more it is there, but it's $5 more than the 7870 you listed. This should suffice. o.0


thepinkanator95 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($319.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Total: $635.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-20 22:06 EST+1000)

Here is the 7950 you requested. 7970 is going to blow your $750 budget. I kept the FX-6300 on there because games are just now starting to dabble in using 6 cores. I highly doubt BF4 will be able to use 8 cores. You can upgrade the processor later when you have saved money, but this build will let you play BF4 on high/ultra.


Actually the Recommended Requirements for BF4 is 8 cores which is odd since BF3 uses 4-6 cores. Games these days seems to be using quad cores and more, So I'll stick with the FX-8350, I already finalised my shopping list at MSY, but thanks anyway.
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September 23, 2013 3:15:52 AM

This is a much more awesome PC than any console out there at the moment. It WILL be able to play BF4 too, but maybe not on ultra maximum super amazing settings. Either way, it'll last a long time.
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September 27, 2013 9:25:52 AM

Marundanation said:
I also found this in another thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1726032/video-ca...

HD 7850:
GPU: 1.76 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1024
64 Texture Units
32 Color ROP Units
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 153 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
Core Clock: 860MHz
Memory Clock: 4.8 Gbps

PS4 spec:
GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1152
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 176 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5


I honestly think that consoles will get a gutted out custom gpus more so then the actual so in reality a REAL 7790/7850 runs alot stronger then whats in console..
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September 27, 2013 11:45:13 AM

You're going to want a powerful card for Battlefield 4.

Minimum I'd say 760 or 7950/70. An 8320 should handle BF4 fine gaming wise too.

The game isn't fully optimized, and this is from Alpha only, but this will give you a general idea. This should be close though to what you will get, probably a bit better once released and with driver updates.





Although system minimum requirements seem okay, they usually always provide a horrible gaming experience, even at low settings(consider recommended at minimum):






This will provide you optimal performance for a good budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $802.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-27 14:47 EDT-0400)


Processor should be good for 3 more years, graphics card end of next 2014/mid 2015. I don't think now is a very optimal time to build a new PC, but if you want to play BF4 as soon as possible, this should give you what you want.
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November 10, 2013 8:09:32 PM

Yeah now is kind of a bad time for PC building, with new consoles and things like DDR4 on the horizon for next year, I would wait. But that's me
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November 10, 2013 8:12:31 PM

Evankiller9 said:
Yeah now is kind of a bad time for PC building, with new consoles and things like DDR4 on the horizon for next year, I would wait. But that's me


And nvidia going to drop more bombs 800 series etc..Btw ddr4 ram wont be usable for a while and prob skyhigh in price when it comes out

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November 10, 2013 11:34:38 PM

I am sticking to AMD for Mantle and the fact that next-gen consoles are using them, it may be the best time for any AMD users right now. Also the new R9 270x can play BF4 ultra on 1200p at 32FPS, I already got it, just need to buy the rest.
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November 11, 2013 12:16:43 AM

Marundanation said:
I am sticking to AMD for Mantle and the fact that next-gen consoles are using them, it may be the best time for any AMD users right now. Also the new R9 270x can play BF4 ultra on 1200p at 32FPS, I already got it, just need to buy the rest.


I would recommend crossfire but eh im not to find of it..I do find the amd series is offering a better value and more bang for their buck but they drivers/crossfire support im not fond of.
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