[AMD FX-8350 CPU + Radeon HD 7850 Gaming] PC vs PS4? And can my PC run BF4?
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Marundanation
September 17, 2013 7:09:17 PM
Hello,
Sorry if there is similar threads already made but currently I am stuck between building a mid-range PC (in December) using AMD FX-8350 8 Core CPU, Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 and 4GB DDR3 (might upgrade to 8GB) vs the spec of PS4.
Here are my "soon-to-be" PC specs:
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A97-R2 970 AM3 DDR3 Motherboard, Windows 8 READY [$120]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9651
CPU: AMD AM3+ x8 FX-8350 4.0Ghz/8Core/16M/125W [$230]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9742
GPU: AMD Gigabyte GV-R785OC-2GD 2GB 7850 PCI-E VGA Card [$200]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8723
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Sapphire SA-7870-2GD5-OC-V2 2GB 7870-OC PCI-E VGA [$225]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8937#
MEMORY (RAM): G.Skill-NT 4GB Single DDR3 1600 F3-1600C11S-4GNT [$41]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9823
STORAGE: WD 3.5" WD5000AAKX "Blue" SATA3 500GB 7200rpm 16M Cache [$56]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7112
POWER SUPPLY: Aerocool VP450 450W True Power Supply Unit PSU [$50]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=10873
*May drop Power Supply ^ for built in-PSU case.
CASE (w/ PSU): SHAW GT-DF3 GT-Defence-Three USB3.0 Gaming Tower Case with EVO-775Max PSU [$37]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9806
Total: ~$750
Not really sure what to go for and I have $750 to spent. I am not concerned of what games to buy at launch, controller preference, exclusives, or even upgrade. I just want to know how well will my PC (which I might build in December) will do against the PS4?
Just a factor to note in the PS4 is an optimised gaming machine, the PC requires drivers and patches to make sure it runs properly. In this case I want to use BF4 as reference, according to the Recommended Requirements it requires an AMD 6-Core CPU, 8GB of RAM and HD 7870 2GB. I think my CPU is well over the Recommended requirements but my GFX Card do not but it is close.
Not sure about the PS4 but do you think I will be able to run this game on High 1080p ~60FPS? I don't really mind bumping down the anti-aliasing and shadow quality since I have gotten used to the PS3's 704p, low quality, 30FPS and no AA.
To sum up, what I really want to ask is how well does my soon-to-be PC compared to Next-gen? Is it slightly inferior or superior? And how well will my mid-range specs run on BF3 or BF4's Medium or High settings?
Also an extra question but should I be using Intel i5 3570 over FX-8350? Because FX-8350 seems to be more affordable.
Thanks for the help!
Sorry if there is similar threads already made but currently I am stuck between building a mid-range PC (in December) using AMD FX-8350 8 Core CPU, Radeon HD 7850 2GB GDDR5 and 4GB DDR3 (might upgrade to 8GB) vs the spec of PS4.
Here are my "soon-to-be" PC specs:
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M5A97-R2 970 AM3 DDR3 Motherboard, Windows 8 READY [$120]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9651
CPU: AMD AM3+ x8 FX-8350 4.0Ghz/8Core/16M/125W [$230]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9742
GPU: AMD Gigabyte GV-R785OC-2GD 2GB 7850 PCI-E VGA Card [$200]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8723
OR
Sapphire SA-7870-2GD5-OC-V2 2GB 7870-OC PCI-E VGA [$225]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8937#
MEMORY (RAM): G.Skill-NT 4GB Single DDR3 1600 F3-1600C11S-4GNT [$41]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9823
STORAGE: WD 3.5" WD5000AAKX "Blue" SATA3 500GB 7200rpm 16M Cache [$56]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7112
POWER SUPPLY: Aerocool VP450 450W True Power Supply Unit PSU [$50]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=10873
*May drop Power Supply ^ for built in-PSU case.
CASE (w/ PSU): SHAW GT-DF3 GT-Defence-Three USB3.0 Gaming Tower Case with EVO-775Max PSU [$37]
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9806
Total: ~$750
Not really sure what to go for and I have $750 to spent. I am not concerned of what games to buy at launch, controller preference, exclusives, or even upgrade. I just want to know how well will my PC (which I might build in December) will do against the PS4?
Just a factor to note in the PS4 is an optimised gaming machine, the PC requires drivers and patches to make sure it runs properly. In this case I want to use BF4 as reference, according to the Recommended Requirements it requires an AMD 6-Core CPU, 8GB of RAM and HD 7870 2GB. I think my CPU is well over the Recommended requirements but my GFX Card do not but it is close.
Not sure about the PS4 but do you think I will be able to run this game on High 1080p ~60FPS? I don't really mind bumping down the anti-aliasing and shadow quality since I have gotten used to the PS3's 704p, low quality, 30FPS and no AA.
To sum up, what I really want to ask is how well does my soon-to-be PC compared to Next-gen? Is it slightly inferior or superior? And how well will my mid-range specs run on BF3 or BF4's Medium or High settings?
Also an extra question but should I be using Intel i5 3570 over FX-8350? Because FX-8350 seems to be more affordable.
Thanks for the help!
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Marundanation
September 17, 2013 7:16:47 PM
I also found this in another thread:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1726032/video-ca...
HD 7850:
GPU: 1.76 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1024
64 Texture Units
32 Color ROP Units
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 153 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
Core Clock: 860MHz
Memory Clock: 4.8 Gbps
PS4 spec:
GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1152
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 176 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1726032/video-ca...
HD 7850:
GPU: 1.76 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1024
64 Texture Units
32 Color ROP Units
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 153 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
Core Clock: 860MHz
Memory Clock: 4.8 Gbps
PS4 spec:
GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1152
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 176 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
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If you want a PC this is what I could do for you.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($179.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($103.05 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $751.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 13:19 EST+1000)
One thing about a PC is that the level of graphics the games can be played at will surpass a console's capabilities within the first 3 months of the console being out. If you truly want your games to look fantastic, build a budget gaming computer and upgrade it over time.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB Video Card ($179.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($103.05 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $751.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 13:19 EST+1000)
One thing about a PC is that the level of graphics the games can be played at will surpass a console's capabilities within the first 3 months of the console being out. If you truly want your games to look fantastic, build a budget gaming computer and upgrade it over time.
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Marundanation
September 17, 2013 8:33:09 PM
Yes I live in Australia.
Also I am already set for the FX-8350 and the HD 7850. I will decide to upgrade over to the 7870 or even skip 7850 and go with 7870 at the start. Might upgrade to FX-90xx series in a month or two.
Also thepinkanator95 your specs are very good, but I like to be close as possible to BF4's 7870 recommendation thats why I considered FX-8350 + 7850 in the first place. Though the 7870 is only $20 more, I guess I will go with 7870 and it is already enough to overpower the PS4 with FX-8350 + HD 7870. Upgrading to FX-90xx or HD 79xx will be my next goal.
Also I am already set for the FX-8350 and the HD 7850. I will decide to upgrade over to the 7870 or even skip 7850 and go with 7870 at the start. Might upgrade to FX-90xx series in a month or two.
Also thepinkanator95 your specs are very good, but I like to be close as possible to BF4's 7870 recommendation thats why I considered FX-8350 + 7850 in the first place. Though the 7870 is only $20 more, I guess I will go with 7870 and it is already enough to overpower the PS4 with FX-8350 + HD 7870. Upgrading to FX-90xx or HD 79xx will be my next goal.
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o0LuNeStA0o
September 19, 2013 6:51:40 AM
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-111961...
What about that? I'm not sure how much more it is there, but it's $5 more than the 7870 you listed. This should suffice. o.0
What about that? I'm not sure how much more it is there, but it's $5 more than the 7870 you listed. This should suffice. o.0
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($319.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Total: $635.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-20 22:06 EST+1000)
Here is the 7950 you requested. 7970 is going to blow your $750 budget. I kept the FX-6300 on there because games are just now starting to dabble in using 6 cores. I highly doubt BF4 will be able to use 8 cores. You can upgrade the processor later when you have saved money, but this build will let you play BF4 on high/ultra.
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($319.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Total: $635.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-20 22:06 EST+1000)
Here is the 7950 you requested. 7970 is going to blow your $750 budget. I kept the FX-6300 on there because games are just now starting to dabble in using 6 cores. I highly doubt BF4 will be able to use 8 cores. You can upgrade the processor later when you have saved money, but this build will let you play BF4 on high/ultra.
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Marundanation
September 23, 2013 2:43:06 AM
o0LuNeStA0o said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-111961...What about that? I'm not sure how much more it is there, but it's $5 more than the 7870 you listed. This should suffice. o.0
thepinkanator95 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / BenchmarksCPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($115.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($319.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Total: $635.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-20 22:06 EST+1000)
Here is the 7950 you requested. 7970 is going to blow your $750 budget. I kept the FX-6300 on there because games are just now starting to dabble in using 6 cores. I highly doubt BF4 will be able to use 8 cores. You can upgrade the processor later when you have saved money, but this build will let you play BF4 on high/ultra.
Actually the Recommended Requirements for BF4 is 8 cores which is odd since BF3 uses 4-6 cores. Games these days seems to be using quad cores and more, So I'll stick with the FX-8350, I already finalised my shopping list at MSY, but thanks anyway.
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September 23, 2013 3:15:52 AM
determinologyz
September 27, 2013 9:25:52 AM
Marundanation said:
I also found this in another thread:http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1726032/video-ca...
HD 7850:
GPU: 1.76 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1024
64 Texture Units
32 Color ROP Units
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 153 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
Core Clock: 860MHz
Memory Clock: 4.8 Gbps
PS4 spec:
GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS,
GPU Cores: 1152
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 176 GB/s
Memory Interface Width: 256 bit GDDR5
I honestly think that consoles will get a gutted out custom gpus more so then the actual so in reality a REAL 7790/7850 runs alot stronger then whats in console..
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You're going to want a powerful card for Battlefield 4.
Minimum I'd say 760 or 7950/70. An 8320 should handle BF4 fine gaming wise too.
The game isn't fully optimized, and this is from Alpha only, but this will give you a general idea. This should be close though to what you will get, probably a bit better once released and with driver updates.
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Although system minimum requirements seem okay, they usually always provide a horrible gaming experience, even at low settings(consider recommended at minimum):
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This will provide you optimal performance for a good budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $802.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-27 14:47 EDT-0400)
Processor should be good for 3 more years, graphics card end of next 2014/mid 2015. I don't think now is a very optimal time to build a new PC, but if you want to play BF4 as soon as possible, this should give you what you want.
Minimum I'd say 760 or 7950/70. An 8320 should handle BF4 fine gaming wise too.
The game isn't fully optimized, and this is from Alpha only, but this will give you a general idea. This should be close though to what you will get, probably a bit better once released and with driver updates.


Although system minimum requirements seem okay, they usually always provide a horrible gaming experience, even at low settings(consider recommended at minimum):
This will provide you optimal performance for a good budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $802.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-27 14:47 EDT-0400)
Processor should be good for 3 more years, graphics card end of next 2014/mid 2015. I don't think now is a very optimal time to build a new PC, but if you want to play BF4 as soon as possible, this should give you what you want.
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November 10, 2013 11:34:38 PM
determinologyz
November 11, 2013 12:16:43 AM
Marundanation said:
I am sticking to AMD for Mantle and the fact that next-gen consoles are using them, it may be the best time for any AMD users right now. Also the new R9 270x can play BF4 ultra on 1200p at 32FPS, I already got it, just need to buy the rest.I would recommend crossfire but eh im not to find of it..I do find the amd series is offering a better value and more bang for their buck but they drivers/crossfire support im not fond of.
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