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September 18, 2013 7:21:59 AM

Hello this is my first build and I need help with some hardware advice. The purpose of this build is high end gaming. I want to be able to run the latest games at 60+FPS at almost all times, at max/ near max setting at max resolution. Please tell me if this build will do that. Also I am on a budget of 1500 at most less if possible. Wanting to build near the end of September. Only one monitor

looking for a critique more than a build change (unless this one is fail lol) please provide reasoning on changes thanks :) 


Cpu: i5-3570k. I chose this over the i7 because I read that hyperthreading is not used much in gaming and the price is nice. The problem is that I don’t know if I will hit a bottleneck with the more powerful gfx card I chose. Will that be a problem? Will I need to overclock it or get a better cpu? I don’t plan to overclock anything at first because I don’t know anything about it but may in the future if needed. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Gpu: geforce 770. I chose this because I have been told that the video card is the most important part of a gaming rig. The thing I worry about is that this will be too powerful to be fully utilized with the rest of the build ie bottlenecking. Should I drop to a 760 or 600 series in sli? What brand is the best? I chose the gigabyte model because I read that the 3 fans are better and quieter that the others. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: not sure on this. I have looked at the as rock extreme 4 and the gigabyte-ud3h. I know nothing about motherboards or what to look for when choosing. Advice is greatly appreciated. What makes the asus sabertooth better (or is it) than these 2 or other z77s since it’s like $100 more?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram: went with 2x4gb corsair vengeance. Any thoughts on this?

Case: I have no idea how to even start to look for a case. Recommendations are welcome. Under $100.

Power supply: again not sure what I need. 750?

HD: western digital blue 1tb. Not sure what brand is better. Saw this in a lot of builds. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optics: whatever is cheap and will read a disk. Not planning on burning anything.

I think that is it for the core build. What do you think? Will it work for high-end gaming or am I deluding myself.
At a later date (when things a cheaper ie black Friday ect) I want to add a ssd. No idea how to even use one or how they work. Whats a good pick. 250gb? Is it better to have one when you first build so you can put ur OS on it or is it not a big deal to upgrade later?
Also if I overclock I read a might need a cpu cooler or liquid cooler. Is this something I can upgrade to later or do they need to be installed before the other hardware?
So what am I missing? Are there better parts than the ones I picked that will do what I want for around the same price? Feedback is appreciated. Thanks for reading this small book :) 

edit: fixed 3570 to 3570k for future overclocking possibilities

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September 18, 2013 7:41:17 AM

i will save you.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1F6Cu
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1F6Cu/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1F6Cu/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($56.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($187.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($81.57 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($640.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($197.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: Windows 8.1 Preview ($0.00)
Total: $1505.49
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 10:40 EDT-0400)


EDIT: Get a SSD sooner then later, 256 GB is great, You looking at about 200 GB after windows, you can easily disable hibernation to get 8 GB back, few other tweaks.

NOTE: SSD = Solid State Drive, HDD= Hard disk drive. They are just storage. Now a SSD uses Flash rather then spinning a Hard drive (platter) around. A ssd has about 480 Read and 520 Write (in megabits per second). A HDD has about 50 MB read and 150 MB write

A ssd will give you minimal game loading times, and a super fast system bootup. Upgrading to one later is easy. You also keep your HDD, using it for mass storage.
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September 18, 2013 7:41:48 AM

First of all, you don't need a Z77 motherboard for a non-k i5. If you want to overclock your i5 you need the k version. You don't need an i5-3570, i5-3350p will have the same performance in games. Get a B75 chipset mobo that will save you money. As for the case under $100, this will be good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... IMPORTANT: YOU NEED A B75 MATX MOTHERBOARD IN ORDER TO FIT THE MOTHERBOARD INTO THE CASE! This would be a great PSU for the money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and as for a HDD this would be great: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 18, 2013 7:47:56 AM

AMDRadeonHD said:
First of all, you don't need a Z77 motherboard for a non-k i5. If you want to overclock your i5 you need the k version. You don't need an i5-3570, i5-3350p will have the same performance in games. Get a B75 chipset mobo that will save you money. As for the case under $100, this will be good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... IMPORTANT: YOU NEED A B75 MATX MOTHERBOARD IN ORDER TO FIT THE MOTHERBOARD INTO THE CASE! This would be a great PSU for the money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and as for a HDD this would be great: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LOL! This guy said a 3350P will be the same performance of a 3570!








MAN U CRAZY!
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September 18, 2013 7:53:25 AM

William Longstreet said:
AMDRadeonHD said:
First of all, you don't need a Z77 motherboard for a non-k i5. If you want to overclock your i5 you need the k version. You don't need an i5-3570, i5-3350p will have the same performance in games. Get a B75 chipset mobo that will save you money. As for the case under $100, this will be good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... IMPORTANT: YOU NEED A B75 MATX MOTHERBOARD IN ORDER TO FIT THE MOTHERBOARD INTO THE CASE! This would be a great PSU for the money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and as for a HDD this would be great: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LOL! This guy said a 3350P will be the same performance of a 3570!








MAN U CRAZY!


Why am I crazy? The difference between Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz and Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz is so small that you can't even notice it with Fraps running, you also save up more money.
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September 18, 2013 7:56:04 AM

William Longstreet said:
AMDRadeonHD said:
First of all, you don't need a Z77 motherboard for a non-k i5. If you want to overclock your i5 you need the k version. You don't need an i5-3570, i5-3350p will have the same performance in games. Get a B75 chipset mobo that will save you money. As for the case under $100, this will be good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... IMPORTANT: YOU NEED A B75 MATX MOTHERBOARD IN ORDER TO FIT THE MOTHERBOARD INTO THE CASE! This would be a great PSU for the money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and as for a HDD this would be great: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


LOL! This guy said a 3350P will be the same performance of a 3570!

It's even recommended in Tom's Hardware database, if you're not overclocking, go for Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz and B75, but if you're overclocking you need a Z77 motherboard and Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz, same goes for Haswell CPU's (Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz and B85 if not overclocking and Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz with a Z87 motherboard if overclocking).






MAN U CRAZY!


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September 18, 2013 8:13:12 AM

the cpu in the build is the 3570k because I want the option to overclock in the future. why the 4670k? I would need a z87 instead of a z77 right?
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September 18, 2013 8:43:15 AM

papatim said:
the cpu in the build is the 3570k because I want the option to overclock in the future. why the 4670k? I would need a z87 instead of a z77 right?


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