Can my rig handle a GTX760 4GB? Is it worth it for me?

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

Am looking to somewhat future proof and also get my FPS up on Ultra on BF3 (ready for BF4), currently I have a GTX650ti Boost 2GB but on High or Ultra in game graphics settings I only see between 50-70fps @ 1920x1080 (usually around the 50fps mark and sometimes drops to 40fps if a tank explodes next to me while i'm getting shot or something. And this is with Anti aliasing OFF.

Just to add my FPS performance seems to be quite random, sometimes it'll average 40-50 and sometimes it'll be 60-80, could this be the maps in BF3 maybe?

Reason i'm looking at the GTX760 4GB is because I read a review stating that although BF4 should be better with an AMD card the Nvidia card still seems to come out on top currently.

So four quick questions really:

1. Should I be seeing higher FPS with my curret setup, or is this about right? (I have to have anti aliasing off currently to achieve the above FPS) I have tried the latest Nvidia drivers but they actually dropped my FPS to 30! SO promptly rolled back!

1. Would a GTX760 4GB running at 1920x1080 help get my FPS up to a solid 60-80+ on Ultra without dropping down in stressful situations?

2. Would it be overkill for just one display at 1920x1080 and would I be better off with s smaller GPU?

2. Would the rest of my rig handle it, would the CPU be bottlenecking etc?

Current spec:

MSI 990FXA-GD80 Mobo
AMD8350 4.4GHz (8 Cores) - Stock cooler
16GB Corsair 1600MHz RAM
Samsung SSD (128GB)
Gigabyte GTX650Ti Boost (2GB)
700w PSU

md1032 · Sep 18, 2013

That would be a modest upgrade (not really significant enough IMO), but I would ask instead why you don't consider dropping in a second GTX 650 Ti Boost in SLI? Your power supply and mobo can handle it and you'd double your processing power at a nominal cost.

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

md1032 :

Don't 2x 2GB cards still only process at 2GB though, so wouldnt a 4GB bet better and more future proof?

toyftw · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

Hi - If you are using 1 monitor @ 1080p, the 4g vram won't add any performance. The 4g would help wih multi monitors or
possibly in future games. One of the gamers posting on here stated he has yet to use more than 1.7g of vram @1080p.

The 760 performs between 20 & 35% faster than a 650ti boost, so would be a huge upgrade for your system, and with
a fx8350, you should have a more powerful GPU than you now have. Likewise the 8350 should not bottleneck a 760.

No, it's not overkill. Always go for the single best GPU you can afford (if your system won't bottleneck)

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

yes, 2x 2GB cards will only have 2GB of effective memory. however, a GTX 760 pretty much have no hope of using 2GB+ of graphics memory and still keeping above 30fps, it is ALREADY incapable of doing this. Nvidia thought this through, and this is why there's only 2GB of memory on the GTX 770 and the older GTX 680. graphics memory is the least of your concern when buying a card around the mid-range. performance per buck should be your only concern.

if I were you, I'd either drop in a second GT 650TI, or sell your current one, and try to get a GTX 770

rounakr94 · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

No in amd crossfireX two 2gb cards will give you 2gb vram but in nvidia 2gb cards will give you 4gb total vram.

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

Ok cool, so my CPU will handle a 760 then thats good. Any way of making completely sure i'm getting the best out of my current card before upgrading? (just to check i'm not barking up the wrong tree)

jinayhvora · Sep 18, 2013

rounakr94 :

RipGroove :

No in amd crossfireX two 2gb cards will give you 2gb vram but in nvidia 2gb cards will give you 4gb total vram.

that's not correct, it would be 2GB only in either case

toyftw · Sep 18, 2013

rounakr94 :

RipGroove :

No in amd crossfireX two 2gb cards will give you 2gb vram but in nvidia 2gb cards will give you 4gb total vram.

Where did you get that info?

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

vmem :

So the 760 won't see above 30fps?
The 760 can be had for £240 but the 770 is £315, that why i was leaning towards the 760. If the 760 is broken in some way and not a good investment then should I get a 680? For simplicity i'd rather not SLI cause A) i've never done it before and B), i like the simplicity of one card.

680's are about £220 so would that be a good upgrade over my 650Ti Boost then? Would that help boost my FPS?

Ok, so now i'm thinking SLI 650Ti Boost OR a single 680. Specs say that both options should perform about the same but the SLI has the added advantage of better cooling as each card has 3x fans. So how easy is it to setup SLI then?

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

no, what I mean is I actually second toyftw's opinion, in that a gtx760 won't be able to utilize 4gb of memory. what I said was that if you were to run graphics which need 4GB of memory (such as a game in 4K resolution or some future title not yet released in 1080p), a 760 PROBABLY won't see above 30fps imo.

that aside, if a 770 is a bit out of your budget, a 760 will do you just fine. I think one thing most of us here on Tom's can agree on is that getting the extra 2GB of memory is not worth your money. either get the regular gtx 760, or go up and get a 770 or some other GPU.

since a 680 is actually cheap where you are, I'd buy that. a GTX 680 is pretty much the SAME THING as a gtx 770,

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

vmem :

RipGroove :

no, what I mean is I actually second toyftw's opinion, in that a gtx760 won't be able to utilize 4gb of memory. what I said was that if you were to run graphics which need 4GB of memory (such as a game in 4K resolution or some future title not yet released in 1080p), a 760 PROBABLY won't see above 30fps imo.

that aside, if a 770 is a bit out of your budget, a 760 will do you just fine. I think one thing most of us here on Tom's can agree on is that getting the extra 2GB of memory is not worth your money. either get the regular gtx 760, or go up and get a 770 or some other GPU.

since a 680 is actually cheap where you are, I'd buy that. a GTX 680 is pretty much the SAME THING as a gtx 770,

Ahh I see thanks, some good info there so:

Now i'm thinking SLI 650Ti Boost OR a single 680. Specs say that both options should perform about the same but the SLI has the added advantage of better cooling as each card has 3x fans. So how easy is it to setup SLI then? And whats your opinions on SLI vs single?

geok1ng · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

Direct to point: you want to game at 1080p with 60fps minimum.
Having 4GB will not be an issue on this situation. PERIOD.
SLIing 650ti boost>>>>760 4GB for your gaming scenario. There is not a single non-bugged game out there for which 2GB is too little, or 4Gb increases FPS. Of all stupid things a gamer can do to increase FPS, the least effective of all is increasing the video memory.

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

geok1ng :

Thanks, thats good info, this is exactly why I posted here before buying one

So which is better SLI 650Ti Boost or a single 680? (both of which maintain the 2GB)

Going SLI would actually be the cheaper and easier option for me then as another card is only about £140 and if it's comparable to a 680 and it'll increase my FPS by a decent amount i'll do that?

Just to add looking at the code on the side of my box it looks like its not a boost version, its just a 650Ti (was sold to me as a boost!) Code: GV-N65TOC-2GI I think the Boost code is GV-N65TBOC-2GI, will this affect my decision to SLI vs a single 680?

Guessing as the Ti Boost is a big jump over the normal Ti then i'm now better off getting a single 680? Nightmare.

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

two 650TI would perform about the same as a 680, but it would draw more power, thus produce more heat. having more fans doesn't make it cooler since all that hot air have to go somewhere, and your case has the same number fans funneling air through it.

if I were you, I would get the single 680 and call it a day. however, taking the cheaper route out isn't a bad idea either. ultimately depend on how strapped for money you are I guess

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

vmem :

Is that taking into account the fact ive just found out my card is just a ti and not a ti boost?

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

vmem :

Is that taking into account the fact ive just found out my card is just a ti and not a ti boost?

oo, that would actually make the 680 look like the better option imo.

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

vmem :

RipGroove :

oo, that would actually make the 680 look like the better option imo.

Cool thanks, was sold to me as a boost! How do you reckon the 680 will perform with BF3 then, fps and settings etc?

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

at 1080p? a 680 should pass 60fps or get pretty damn close at max settings

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

vmem :

With Anti Aliasing on?

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

yes, that's what max settings mean. tho you may need to keep it at x4 or x8 to get 60fps. I vaguely remember that you get around 48 or so fps with maxed out AA

RipGroove · Sep 18, 2013

vmem :

Cool

Dunno whether its right or not but when mine drops to between 45 and 50fps I definitely notice it as it judders and gets a bit choppy, should it do that at those fps?

vmem · Sep 18, 2013

RipGroove :

absolutely no clue. it's really up to perception and varies from person to person.

to be honest I understand hardware but I'm HORRIBLE at actually differentiating between graphic quality. it'll usually take me 30min to 1hr to notice the difference between 30fps and 60fps lol.

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