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Trong Dinh

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So this is basically the build i came up with. Im planning on using this comp for medium gaming, photoshop, and video editting, and web browsing. I was wondering if there is any parts that i can get a better price and also still keep the good performance. If there is a build that is better then this and the budget is around $800, please recomend it to me.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH :)

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.97 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $830.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 17:20 EDT-0400)
 
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shellls45
This is the same but slightly cheaper

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FgqL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FgqL/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FgqL/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($212.48 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
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thepinkanator95

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $822.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 17:31 EDT-0400)

This FX-8350 beats your i5 by a LONGSHOT and it's cheaper, plus I gave you a motherboard that will allow you more upgradability in the future. The only other thing I added was an SSD for you to load your OS onto. It's small because you should only really need it for the OS, but frequently used programs can be stuffed onto there as well. Everything else your HDD can handle.
 
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Trong Dinh

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one thing i dont really under stand is how ssd different from the normal Hard Drive



 
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thepinkanator95

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An SSD is like a big flash drive and the speed is limited by the speed that electrons can flow through the circuits (almost the speed of light). An HDD has mechanical parts and has to move those parts to read data. Now write time both are about the same, but SSDs are better at picking out specific information and don't have to "boot up" (HDDs have to spin the drives inside to the technical specifications before you can boot up).
 
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If you look at CPU benchmarks the FX-8350 outperforms Intel' highest i5 chip, only beat by the i7s and the 8350 is cheaper than the i5s. The slot can also be upgraded to a 9590 at 4.7GHz normal clock speed. Imagine the OCing on that puppy. Once you get to the 9590 you are really only getting beat by Intel's top i7 and their Xeon processors (which are used for servers mostly).
 
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shellls45

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NO... U look at the benches. It performs worse than an i5 for gaming while using double the power.
 
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thepinkanator95

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I did look at the benches. Here are the performance benches and only using 1/4 more power. When it comes to gaming I don't think you are really thinking about power consumption as you are going to be using a lot of power anyway with the rest of your build.
 
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Trong Dinh

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errrr what should i do??
This build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($233.97 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $830.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 19:55 EDT-0400)

OR This build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($57.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $853.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 19:55 EDT-0400)
 
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shellls45

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This is the same but slightly cheaper

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FgqL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FgqL/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FgqL/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($212.48 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($250.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $793.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-18 20:05 EDT-0400)
 
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Passmark has been giving excellent CPU reviews for a very long time. It's not "lol passmark". It's "whoa, passmark". Also, if you are a gamer you are going to want to overclock. Overclocking on an i5 sucks ass, where as you can overclock a 8350 to a new world record the current stands at 8.64GHZ on an 8350 by the way). Speed is what you want, and AMD will give you that especially when overclocking.
 
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shellls45

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias This is what you suffer from. Anyway, passmark is a synthetic integer test and does not represent real world integer performance. That is before even looking at floating point performance which is much lower on FX.

As far as overclocking is concerned, an 4670k will hit 4.2 GHZ on an 212 evo. By contrast the 8350 will hit 4.4-4,5 Ghz.
Percentage wise the i5 gain is much higher and will only widen its lead while using less power.

Case Closed...again.
 
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thepinkanator95

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This review is bullshit.

Skyrim can only run on 4 cores.
Diablo 3 only uses 2 cores.
Dawn of War 2 barely uses 2 cores.
WoW uses 4 cores.

Do I need to continue?

If you want your computer to last longer more cores will help you achieve that as threading becomes more popular. The AMD FX-8350 will last you a lot longer than the i5.

Also, PassMark gives you the maximum potential for the CPU which prevents you from buying a CPU that will go out of date within a year. i5 has better individual core performance, but 8350 wins on overall speed and overclocking.
 
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http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,794274/From-Medal-of-Honor-to-Civ-5-17-Games-that-already-benefit-from-six-cores-CPUs/Reviews/

These games benefit from 6 cores. Games will come to use more cores as they grow larger and require more power. It is also better to have extra cores for background tasks.
 
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