3770K vs 4770K - Migrating from AMD platform

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So, I've been driving myself nuts trying to figure this one out, and I'd like some objective feedback. I'm migrating from an AMD Athlon II X6 1090T BE platform, and I'm torn between Ivy Bridge and Haswell. I see most of the review sites and forums still pushing Ivy Bridge, but I suspect this is because most of you own LGA1155 platforms already.

Since I have to buy a new board already, would it make sense to pick up a Z87 platform to be prepared for future upgrades. My understanding is that the performance difference is negligible, but the Haswell chips have a bit more robust memory controller, and (useless) integrated video. This comes at the cost of an 84W TDP vs 77w on the Ivy Bridge platform.

My system is primarily used for gaming, with some occasional heavy CPU lifting. I might opt for the Core i5 versions of these chips, but the price difference at Microcenter is negligible to me. Either way, I will be building a custom WC loop and hope for a 4.75-5GHz stable OC.

So - with all that in mind, is there a compelling reason to buy into Ivy Bridge at this point, or should I buy a Haswell platform for the more robust memory controller and possibility of cheaper upgrades when the next gen CPUs come out?
 
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Sakkura

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Ivy Bridge overclocks better than Haswell. If you're really looking for 4.7-5 GHz, Ivy Bridge is the better pick.

But Haswell has more performance per clock, so that makes up for the lower clocks.

As for upgradeability, keep in mind Intel switches sockets all the time, and is gradually moving towards soldered CPUs instead of socketed ones.
 
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getochkn

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Don't count on any new CPU's really for the Haswell. intel likes to dump last gen and make a whole new platform. Getting a Haswell just for future proofing is a pretty big gamble. Bet everyone thought that when they got their Ivy Bridge CPU's as well and they got left in the dust.
 
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Amdlova

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if you will change your powersupply for haswell ready.... buy a 4770k if you want use your old powersupply get a 3770k. haswell is the same road 3770k same specs same power... haswell is end of the road the new cpu coming will use ddr4 =) and you cannot upgrade from z87 so choose the option less expensive... sorry for my bad english.
 
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logainofhades

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Most likely we will see Broadwell on 1150. Intel has been using sockets for 2 revisions of chips lately. 1366 got Nehalem and Westmere, 1155 we got Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. 1156 was a bit of an oddball as the codenames were different for dual and quad core cpu's. It would be great if they would make a socket with the longevity of 775 but with less need to switch motherboards due to a chipset change.
 
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geofelt

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If one had a ivy bridge "K", there would be little reason to change to haswell.
Ivy bridge overclocks higher, but haswell is more efficient and does not need a high overclock to perform well.
It terms of performance it is, perhaps a wash.

That said, I would go with haswell, in particular the 4670K.
The extra hyperthreads of the i7 do not help gamers since few games use more than 2-3 threads.
You will get a X87 chipset which is superior to the Z87.

How high you can oc haswell is mostly determined by your luck in getting a golden chip.
Most will do 4.0 at 1.2v.
Once you have that, it is the graphics card that determines your FPS.
Most any decent aftermarket cooler will do the job so long as your voltage is in the 1.2v range.
If you are looking at custom water, remember that incremental performance from cooling is very hard to come by. You are usually better off putting that budget into a stronger graphics card.
I would be satisfied with a top air cooler that is more reliable and quiet like a Phanteks or Noctua NH-D14.
 
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Actually Intel just announced broadwell is mobile only, no socketed CPUs. So the only thing going onto socket 1150 is haswell. Also, the haswell refresh scheduled for next summer is introducing something new that will require a new socket also. Basically no matter what you buy in Intel right now, the next purchase requires a new board.

@OP: As for "future proofing"...you would probably be better off with AMD there.

I am thinking they *might* end up bringing out the FX successor with steamroller cores on a new socket. Hard to say though, and AM3+ is supported through 2015, AMD has been tight lipped about everything.

Word has it they're making a big announcement in October about the future of desktop CPUs.
 
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logainofhades

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Glad I have a capable CPU to last me that long. Intel starts playing the socket game again, I am going to go back to AMD.
 
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