Advice on $700 Gaming Build?

PentagonBlack

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Hey all! Long-time lurker, first-time poster here building my first desktop and looking for some help/advice.

Approximate Purchase Date.: within the next week

Budget Range: $700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming. Literally nothing else is going on this desktop but Steam and some gaming-related software

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: everything, I guess. This is my first build so I'm going to need to start from scratch. All I have covered is mouse and keyboard..

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: no preference, just whoever has the best price

Location: Southeast US

Parts Preferences: I really want to go with an Intel CPU and AMD GPU because that's what I have the most experience with as end-user, but I'm open to suggestions.

Overclocking: Maybe; it would be much further down the road. Nice to have the option but not having it isn't a deal-breaker.

SLI or Crossfire: Again, maybe; won't be doing it anytime soon, and I'm OK without

Additional Comments: I have a hard $700 limit, including OS and monitor. Using it entirely for gaming, but I know that realistically whatever I build isn't going to set the world on fire with my budget. I'm just looking for something that would allow me to play any games coming out within the next year at medium-to-high settings, as well as some older games I've bought on sale/impulse that my laptop can't run well enough to be considered playable (Metro 2033/Last Light, Witcher 2, Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs). The few demanding games I've managed to get decent performance out of only came after hours upon hours of tweaking and I'm really tired of it.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I love my laptop, but it just isn't cutting it anymore with games. Many that have come out just this year or even the year before can't run at playable speeds regardless of settings. It hung in there longer than I expected, but It's time to put it out to pasture as far as games go. I will be keeping it around for everything except gaming - internet/video/etc.

I feel pretty good about the parts list I've put together, but I'd like some feedback.

i5-4570 - $159
http://www.microcenter.com/product/413255/Intel_Core_i5-4570_32GHz_Boxed_Processor
ASRock H81M-DGS - $49.50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 - $32.98
http://www.outletpc.com/wh6287-ball...rucial+-+Memory (RAM) > Desktop - DDR3 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 3.5" 7200RPM - $39.99
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00461K1QW/?tag=pcpapi-20
ASUS HD7770-1GD5 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition - $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
HEC Vigilance MicroATX Mini Tower Case - $21.99
http://www.microcenter.com/product/411104/Compucase_Vigilance_Mid_Tower_mATX_Computer_Case_-_Black
Seasonic SS-400ET Bronze 400W - $52.40
http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-SS-4...&qid=1379697420&sr=1-80&keywords=power+supply
LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer - $15.99
http://www.microcenter.com/product/407512/24x_Super_Multi_Internal_SATA_DVD±RW_DL_Drive_-_Bare_Drive

My laptop specs for comparison:
Sony VAIO VPCEB
Intel i5 520M @ 2.5Ghz
ATI Radeon Mobility 5650
4GB RAM
Windows 7 64-bit

About the only things I really have my heart set on is the CPU ($160 for the i5-4570 seems like a steal because any other Intel quad I could find anywhere else would put me over-budget) and this HP monitor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176422
It's the best IPS monitor I could find in my price range and has some very positive reviews, but I'm open to suggestions if you can find anything that would be a better value and not break the bank.

Case is pretty much junk, I know, but I had to cut corners somewhere.

Sorry about the info-dump. I'm new to all this and I've been getting a lot of conflicting advice from people I normally consider very trustworthy, so I'd like a neutral opinion to make sense of it all before I pull the trigger. Comments/suggestions/jokes about my mom are welcome.
 
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Generally speaking, all of your information is true. AMD chips run hotter and consume more power. They are meant to be overclocked and they don't perform as well as Intel processors. However, the main selling point is that it's significantly cheaper and still runs great for its price. With the main saved from switching from Intel to AMD, you can get a better graphics card which will enable you to play games better.
Graphics card is the main component of a gaming rig, as games use more gpu power than cpu power.

I kind of went over budget by $30 but it's hard getting a good computer for $500 excluding the monitor, os, and mail in rebates:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Memory:...
I hope you know that the i5-4570 for $159 is a microcenter IN-STORE pick-up only deal. If you don't have a local microcenter near you, you can't get that price.

OS and Monitor will take at least $200 out of your budget. That leaves you with a $500 budget for the tower itself. Realistically, getting an intel based gaming rig at this budget won't allow for a good gpu, which is the main component in a gaming rig. By going with an AMD processor, you save money which allows you to allocate more money into the gpu.
If you're fine with AMD, here:

Does the $700 hard budget include mail in rebates?
 

PentagonBlack

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Yeah, I know it's store pick-up only. There's a Microcenter less than 10 minutes from my house where I can get it (to be honest I didn't know it existed until a few months ago even though it's apparently been there for like 15 years; just never noticed it before).

The hard limit is before rebates. I can't afford to spend money that I'll theoretically get back weeks or months after purchase.

I've considered AMD, but I'm concerned about heat and power consumption, and benchmarks on their CPUs running at stock speed in my price range seemed a little... underwhelming. Could a similarly priced FX chip compete with the i5 4570? Also, I'm not interested in getting into overclocking right out of the gate (rather ease into it when it becomes necessary) and it seems like the ability for huge overclocks is one of AMD's hardest selling points. At the moment I'm just not sure an AMD chip is the right fit for me.

At this point I'm wondering if I should just give up the ghost on that i5 and go with an i3 or cheaper AMD chip like the Athlon II x4 750k and put the difference into a better GPU like the 7850 or something. Would that be enough to get me through the next year?
 

james77

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Here's your $700 gaming PC with OS and monitor. It's not the best build out there but it fits your budget and it can play all the latest games.

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H61M-S1 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($41.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba Product Series:DT01ACA 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: HEC Enterprise MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($22.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($86.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $681.40

Goodluck! :)
 
Generally speaking, all of your information is true. AMD chips run hotter and consume more power. They are meant to be overclocked and they don't perform as well as Intel processors. However, the main selling point is that it's significantly cheaper and still runs great for its price. With the main saved from switching from Intel to AMD, you can get a better graphics card which will enable you to play games better.
Graphics card is the main component of a gaming rig, as games use more gpu power than cpu power.

I kind of went over budget by $30 but it's hard getting a good computer for $500 excluding the monitor, os, and mail in rebates:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($33.81 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($149.60 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($43.53 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.87 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Dell S2240M 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Other: FX-6300 + MSI 970A-G46 at microcenter ($159.98)
Total: $731.75
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-21 13:50 EDT-0400)

-AMD based.
-Stronger gpu. The 7850 does moderately well in most games.
-Better quality case.
-Excludes all MIR.
 
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