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September 21, 2013 6:51:27 PM

i am currently buying all of the components for my gaming PC, and i don't know what to do with windows 7, i decided to get home premium 60 bit. i mean, what i think is that after building up my pc i should put the disc on the PC and install it, is it just that? what i think i have to buy (NOT SHURE, PLEASE CORRECT ME) is this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reinstall-disk-compatible-with-...

... right?


i think what i actually need it this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-bit-E...



... if not please just link me a windows 7 64bit install disc from ebay that ships to florida, thanks
September 21, 2013 7:00:20 PM

you need the second one for a fresh install however i would recommend windows 8 over windows 7 ik it gets a lot of hate but i took the plunge and got it with my rig and couldnt be happpier. its faster and if you download a program to give you the start bar its practically the same thing but faster. as for installation yes just put the disk in and boot it up once your finished building however you might waNT to check in the bios that the odd has boot priority but it should do it automatically.
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September 21, 2013 7:24:58 PM

Cameron Shaw said:
you need the second one for a fresh install however i would recommend windows 8 over windows 7 ik it gets a lot of hate but i took the plunge and got it with my rig and couldnt be happpier. its faster and if you download a program to give you the start bar its practically the same thing but faster. as for installation yes just put the disk in and boot it up once your finished building however you might waNT to check in the bios that the odd has boot priority but it should do it automatically.


i would think about windows 8, what worries me is that i wont be able to play Battlefield 2. it was a pain in the a$$ to install it, update it, and whole lots of things in my current laptop.

also, windows 8 is much heavier than 7, and i care absolutely nothing if my PC looks gay like win8 or it looks old like win7, the point is that my software will run without problems, thats why i listed this question under WINDOWS 7 category. WIN8 IS NOT AN OPTION.
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September 21, 2013 7:33:18 PM

Tiger98 said:
USAFRet said:
Neither of those are valid Windows installations.

What you need is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Software, especially Windows, from eBay is a crapshoot.



... so i should get this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-Bit-M...


Not that one either.
Why are you looking at buying a German version, in euros?

But from their description:
"Betriebssystem Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 CD 64 bit und COA (Echtheitszertifikat) Oem DELL oder Fujitsu"

You are buying a Dell disk, not a regular Windows disk from MS.
This is not a valid buy.

What I linked above, from Newegg, is a valid buy. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Yes, it is more expensive. But that's what it costs.

If you find Windows significantly cheaper than what MS sells it for, it is almost certainly not legit. Especially on ebay.
Unless you find it on sale at Newegg, Microcenter, etc.
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September 21, 2013 7:33:34 PM

tourist said:
USAFRet said:
Neither of those are valid Windows installations.

What you need is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Software, especially Windows, from eBay is a crapshoot.


+1 and you do not find out until you need it for a fresh install or ms updates


as i listed im my question, please link me something from EBAY, E-B-A-Y. it's the only webpage i can but things from so don't come to me from newegg or amazon or anything else, is it SO hard to tell me if the following link is good for a ''fresh install'':

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-Bit-M...
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September 21, 2013 7:36:20 PM

Tiger98 said:
Cameron Shaw said:
you need the second one for a fresh install however i would recommend windows 8 over windows 7 ik it gets a lot of hate but i took the plunge and got it with my rig and couldnt be happpier. its faster and if you download a program to give you the start bar its practically the same thing but faster. as for installation yes just put the disk in and boot it up once your finished building however you might waNT to check in the bios that the odd has boot priority but it should do it automatically.


i would think about windows 8, what worries me is that i wont be able to play Battlefield 2. it was a pain in the a$$ to install it, update it, and whole lots of things in my current laptop.

also, windows 8 is much heavier than 7, and i care absolutely nothing if my PC looks gay like win8 or it looks old like win7, the point is that my software will run without problems, thats why i listed this question under WINDOWS 7 category. WIN8 IS NOT AN OPTION.


I have used this twice on custom builds with no problems but you do have to go back and uninstall some dell branded software that is included
http://www.missionsofts.com/microsoft-windows-7-profess...
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September 21, 2013 7:36:27 PM

Tiger98 said:
tourist said:
USAFRet said:
Neither of those are valid Windows installations.

What you need is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Software, especially Windows, from eBay is a crapshoot.


+1 and you do not find out until you need it for a fresh install or ms updates


as i listed im my question, please link me something from EBAY, E-B-A-Y. it's the only webpage i can but things from so don't come to me from newegg or amazon or anything else, is it SO hard to tell me if the following link is good for a ''fresh install'':

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-Bit-M...


One more time:
That is not a valid Windows installation.

Why is eBay the only place you can buy it from? You appear to be in Florida....trot on down to Walmart or Bestbuy and buy it.
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September 21, 2013 7:47:40 PM

The dell i linked is actually a valid install as dell has a license for every motherboard manufacture and is considered a valid oem license.
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September 21, 2013 8:28:44 PM

It is probably a valid oem license, though some places selling these dell branded cds/coa are counterfeit copies. The issue though is they would have stolen it from dell. Dell cannot resell them because under the license they cannot be sold unless with a unit.
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September 21, 2013 8:49:34 PM

USAFRet said:
Tiger98 said:
USAFRet said:
Neither of those are valid Windows installations.

What you need is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Software, especially Windows, from eBay is a crapshoot.



... so i should get this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-Bit-M...


Not that one either.
Why are you looking at buying a German version, in euros?

But from their description:
"Betriebssystem Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 CD 64 bit und COA (Echtheitszertifikat) Oem DELL oder Fujitsu"

You are buying a Dell disk, not a regular Windows disk from MS.
This is not a valid buy.

What I linked above, from Newegg, is a valid buy. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Yes, it is more expensive. But that's what it costs.

If you find Windows significantly cheaper than what MS sells it for, it is almost certainly not legit. Especially on ebay.
Unless you find it on sale at Newegg, Microcenter, etc.


ehmm... cough cough..... DONT LIST NEWEGG, I CAN ONLY BUY ON EBAY, AMEN.
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September 21, 2013 8:50:52 PM

USAFRet said:
Tiger98 said:
tourist said:
USAFRet said:
Neither of those are valid Windows installations.

What you need is this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Software, especially Windows, from eBay is a crapshoot.


+1 and you do not find out until you need it for a fresh install or ms updates


as i listed im my question, please link me something from EBAY, E-B-A-Y. it's the only webpage i can but things from so don't come to me from newegg or amazon or anything else, is it SO hard to tell me if the following link is good for a ''fresh install'':

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-Bit-M...


One more time:
That is not a valid Windows installation.

Why is eBay the only place you can buy it from? You appear to be in Florida....trot on down to Walmart or Bestbuy and buy it.


i don't live in florida, a friend ships me the package to my country, where i live it costs $250 windows 7 home premium which is ridiculous.
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September 21, 2013 9:02:05 PM

Tiger98 said:


i don't live in florida, a friend ships me the package to my country, where i live it costs $250 windows 7 home premium which is ridiculous.


Well. That little bit of info might have been helpful early on.
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September 21, 2013 9:08:31 PM

If your friend ships it to you then where do they live?
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September 21, 2013 9:12:23 PM

k1114 said:
It is probably a valid oem license, though some places selling these dell branded cds/coa are counterfeit copies. The issue though is they would have stolen it from dell. Dell cannot resell them because under the license they cannot be sold unless with a unit.


Your right most are counterfeit 7600 or 7601 builds, These are for fresh install and not yet locked to the motherboard.

from MS
. The current OEM System Builder License allows system builders to distribute Windows desktop operating system licenses in the following ways:

1 Preinstalled on a new PC.
2 Unopened OEM System Builder packs can be distributed to other system builders by themselves. Note that they must remain unopened so the receiving system builder can accept and be bound by the break-the-seal license agreement that is affixed to the pack.
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September 21, 2013 9:17:15 PM

k1114 said:
If your friend ships it to you then where do they live?


when i write something, i know why im doing it, it doesnt matter where they live, where do i live, why can i only use ebay or why is the sky blue, the question is SIMPLE, list me an article on ebay that meets my requirements in this case, im asking anyone to list me the product im looking for which is windows 7 home premium 64 bit, which i can use for a PC im building... can you or anyone please answer my question? ill repeat, list me a WIN7 product on EBAY.
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September 21, 2013 9:17:53 PM

tourist said:
k1114 said:
It is probably a valid oem license, though some places selling these dell branded cds/coa are counterfeit copies. The issue though is they would have stolen it from dell. Dell cannot resell them because under the license they cannot be sold unless with a unit.


Your right most are counterfeit 7600 or 7601 builds, These are for fresh install and not yet locked to the motherboard.

from MS
. The current OEM System Builder License allows system builders to distribute Windows desktop operating system licenses in the following ways:

1 Preinstalled on a new PC.
2 Unopened OEM System Builder packs can be distributed to other system builders by themselves. Note that they must remain unopened so the receiving system builder can accept and be bound by the break-the-seal license agreement that is affixed to the pack.


and...
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September 21, 2013 9:30:50 PM

Number 2.
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September 21, 2013 9:35:23 PM

tourist said:
k1114 said:
It is probably a valid oem license, though some places selling these dell branded cds/coa are counterfeit copies. The issue though is they would have stolen it from dell. Dell cannot resell them because under the license they cannot be sold unless with a unit.


Your right most are counterfeit 7600 or 7601 builds, These are for fresh install and not yet locked to the motherboard.

from MS
. The current OEM System Builder License allows system builders to distribute Windows desktop operating system licenses in the following ways:

1 Preinstalled on a new PC.
2 Unopened OEM System Builder packs can be distributed to other system builders by themselves. Note that they must remain unopened so the receiving system builder can accept and be bound by the break-the-seal license agreement that is affixed to the pack.


The oem from retailers can be sold separately and what you posted is in accordance to that license. The dell licenses are essentially "bought" licenses and cannot be resold separately. The package you see, that paper envelope is not the box ms distributes them in. This is packaged by the people who stole them. Dell coa stickers are sold in rolls and only to dell. The cds even say not to be distributed unless with dell pcs and the sticker says not to be sold separately. This does not mean without a cd, it means without a pc.
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September 21, 2013 9:50:52 PM

Yeah go on buy from ebay but remember we wont help you if it comes out as a counterfeit copy
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September 21, 2013 10:49:06 PM

k1114 said:
tourist said:
k1114 said:
It is probably a valid oem license, though some places selling these dell branded cds/coa are counterfeit copies. The issue though is they would have stolen it from dell. Dell cannot resell them because under the license they cannot be sold unless with a unit.


Your right most are counterfeit 7600 or 7601 builds, These are for fresh install and not yet locked to the motherboard.

from MS
. The current OEM System Builder License allows system builders to distribute Windows desktop operating system licenses in the following ways:

1 Preinstalled on a new PC.
2 Unopened OEM System Builder packs can be distributed to other system builders by themselves. Note that they must remain unopened so the receiving system builder can accept and be bound by the break-the-seal license agreement that is affixed to the pack.


The oem from retailers can be sold separately and what you posted is in accordance to that license. The dell licenses are essentially "bought" licenses and cannot be resold separately. The package you see, that paper envelope is not the box ms distributes them in. This is packaged by the people who stole them. Coa stickers are sold in rolls and only to royalty oems. It even says dell on the sticker. The cds even say not to be distributed unless with dell pcs and the sticker says not to be sold separately. This does not mean without a cd, it means without a pc.


Your confusing retail with oem. System builder packs can be sold as long as it is to another system builder that will accept MS system Builder License and the BS (break and seal)agreement.
Neither one i received was a paper envelop it was sealed with the companies break and seal license number Along with warranty book, card and separate COA not a sticker. After they are sold dells blue sticker means nothing.

Not convinced call Microsoft this is not a fly by night company on amazon. Dell is perfectly within there rights to sell system builder packs to other system builders. These are not multi key versions, these are one shot installs and then it locks to the motherboard. The end users obligation starts with activation not before. If MS activates it and accepts it as genuine then it is genuine software.

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September 21, 2013 11:06:43 PM

What the OP is buying off ebay is counterfeit and a violation of TH rules and this thread will be shut down by the mod very fast. What i am referring to is perfect legal software and is evident in the fact ms accepts it as such. Not trying to be rude but if you do not know the rules do not play the game.
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September 21, 2013 11:28:30 PM

So there isn't a dell coa sticker like this with the key on it:
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September 21, 2013 11:51:47 PM

Come on of course there is but there is also 5X7 coa along with seal in the pack,including 20 odd other pages from dell and a 100page warranty book. Yes It could be fake but put all that aside and think about this who says there software is genuine ? The manufacturer and that would be Microsoft. Microsoft has a rolling authentication program to weed out the counterfeit keys. Most of these are multi keys, able to activate different versions. The software i linked to is not. Many manufacturers buy these extra licenses for different reasons but they are not bulk keys.
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September 22, 2013 9:37:27 AM

I think you missed the dell part, and that is the important part. Dell cannot resell dell branded keys. They can sell non branded keys. I don't doubt it as counterfeit, the issue as originally stated is if it's stolen. You think dell just gives away their extra windows keys? No. Do they sell the extra keys? No. So where do these places get the dell keys then? It's stolen. Why do you think newegg, etc., or even amazon or newegg marketplace don't sell branded keys?
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September 22, 2013 12:09:45 PM

*sight*... then what should i do? whats your recommendation? i can't buy it in a local store, and i can LUCKILY be able to buy something on internet, but its just from ebay. i have to say, i have another friend who can bring products on amazon so maybe it can be an option too, i may convince him... didn't think of it before :p  so you guys are saying that i shouldn't buy it on ebay because it may not be original right? then amazon may be my only choice....

something like this??

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil...

looks safe to me (and expensive)
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September 22, 2013 12:37:52 PM

k1114 said:
I think you missed the dell part, and that is the important part. Dell cannot resell dell branded keys. They can sell non branded keys. I don't doubt it as counterfeit, the issue as originally stated is if it's stolen. You think dell just gives away their extra windows keys? No. Do they sell the extra keys? No. So where do these places get the dell keys then? It's stolen. Why do you think newegg, etc., or even amazon or newegg marketplace don't sell branded keys?


I will agre to disagree, and i have seen these dell disks in comp usa and tigerdirect before but those were xp. Disk is labeled 2009 that is a long time to wait and sell stolen cd's.

Possible ? Yes but MS will flag it and label it not genuine after activation. The price is not that much lower than what i used to pay under my technet subscription
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September 22, 2013 12:41:41 PM

Tiger98 said:
*sight*... then what should i do? whats your recommendation? i can't buy it in a local store, and i can LUCKILY be able to buy something on internet, but its just from ebay. i have to say, i have another friend who can bring products on amazon so maybe it can be an option too, i may convince him... didn't think of it before :p  so you guys are saying that i shouldn't buy it on ebay because it may not be original right? then amazon may be my only choice....

something like this??

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil...

looks safe to me (and expensive)


Yes that is full retail oem allowing you to install multiple times with the same key. You can do fresh installs every month if you want to.
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September 22, 2013 1:03:44 PM

tourist said:
Tiger98 said:
*sight*... then what should i do? whats your recommendation? i can't buy it in a local store, and i can LUCKILY be able to buy something on internet, but its just from ebay. i have to say, i have another friend who can bring products on amazon so maybe it can be an option too, i may convince him... didn't think of it before :p  so you guys are saying that i shouldn't buy it on ebay because it may not be original right? then amazon may be my only choice....

something like this??

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil...

looks safe to me (and expensive)


Yes that is full retail oem allowing you to install multiple times with the same key. You can do fresh installs every month if you want to.


ah, finally! :) 
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September 22, 2013 2:26:50 PM

Tiger98 said:
tourist said:
Tiger98 said:
*sight*... then what should i do? whats your recommendation? i can't buy it in a local store, and i can LUCKILY be able to buy something on internet, but its just from ebay. i have to say, i have another friend who can bring products on amazon so maybe it can be an option too, i may convince him... didn't think of it before :p  so you guys are saying that i shouldn't buy it on ebay because it may not be original right? then amazon may be my only choice....

something like this??

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil...

looks safe to me (and expensive)


Yes that is full retail oem allowing you to install multiple times with the same key. You can do fresh installs every month if you want to.


ah, finally! :) 


Exactly the same as the Newegg product I posted waaaayyy up there.
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September 26, 2013 8:36:09 PM

USAFRet said:
Tiger98 said:
tourist said:
Tiger98 said:
*sight*... then what should i do? whats your recommendation? i can't buy it in a local store, and i can LUCKILY be able to buy something on internet, but its just from ebay. i have to say, i have another friend who can bring products on amazon so maybe it can be an option too, i may convince him... didn't think of it before :p  so you guys are saying that i shouldn't buy it on ebay because it may not be original right? then amazon may be my only choice....

something like this??

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Buil...

looks safe to me (and expensive)


Yes that is full retail oem allowing you to install multiple times with the same key. You can do fresh installs every month if you want to.


ah, finally! :) 


Exactly the same as the Newegg product I posted waaaayyy up there.


except its not on newegg (which is a WIN for him)
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