CPU to run next gen games, AMD vs Intel with NVidia GPU

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Jimbobbuttscratch

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I decided a while ago to invest in PC gaming rather than get a next gen console and the next part of my system I want to upgrade is the CPU, I am currently on the AMD FX 6200 and plan to run this with a GTX760. After waiting for the Intel Haswell chips to come out it seems that there is no great improvement in gaming when compared to the Ivy bridge chips but a hell of a lot more heat, which brings me to my particular predicament.

The choices I have at the moment seem to be to upgrade to the AMD FX 8350 in the hope that future games make use of the 8 cores, or go for a 3rd gen I5 or I7. I am trying to make the right choice so that I won't need to upgrade again for at least 2 years. Another thing which is important to me is heat. I tend to play games with the headphones off so the cooler and quieter I can make my pc the better. This is probably the only reason I didn't go and get a Haswell already.
 
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The i5-3570K draws almost 100w less power vs the 8350 under heavy load for often slightly better performance vs the 8350 on heavily multi-threaded games (and much better performance for lesser well threaded games).

New games engines may well be written for the new consoles with 8 cores, but each of those 8 cores runs at only half the speed of PC's - 1.75GHz for XBone & 2.0GHz for PS4. 4C->8C also doesn't scale anywhere near linear 100% boost for 100% core increase and is far less than 2C->4C. Sometimes it's as little as 10% for 4 extra cores due to the limits of multi-threading scalability (for games I mean, not stuff like video editing which does scale very well).

The consoles equivalent discrete card is somewhere...
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The i5-3570K draws almost 100w less power vs the 8350 under heavy load for often slightly better performance vs the 8350 on heavily multi-threaded games (and much better performance for lesser well threaded games).

New games engines may well be written for the new consoles with 8 cores, but each of those 8 cores runs at only half the speed of PC's - 1.75GHz for XBone & 2.0GHz for PS4. 4C->8C also doesn't scale anywhere near linear 100% boost for 100% core increase and is far less than 2C->4C. Sometimes it's as little as 10% for 4 extra cores due to the limits of multi-threading scalability (for games I mean, not stuff like video editing which does scale very well).

The consoles equivalent discrete card is somewhere between a 7790 and 7850 mid-range card too. They're a big step up from X360 / PS3, but they don't come close to a high end PC in performance.

Personally, I'd go for the 3570K simply because it runs all games very fast (whether they're +4C multi-threaded or not), but also because 1. It draws almost 100w less power whilst doing so and 2. It has far more OC headroom (+1.0GHz vs only +500MHz of a FX-8350) before hitting thermal limits without needing expensive cooling setups.
 
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if ull go on the FX-8350 DON'T use the stock cooler (its like a small jet inside your PC) i chose the Thermaltake performer 3.0 witch is pretty quiet but what ever you do, again dont use the stock cooler
 
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Yeah if the stock cooler is anything like the one that came with 6200 it will go in the bin. I'm using the Hyper Evo 212 at the moment and that thing is silent and my cpu temps never go over 40C even when playing cpu intensive games like Skyrim in hot weather. This is what's making me think twice about jumping to Intel though. As far as I can see their chips get far hotter.
 
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FX 8350 + 212 EVO that you already have.
 
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Get an FX 8320 and bump up the multiplier to 21, turn off turbo core, and maybe change the voltage if it's unstable. That will give you a 4.2GHz CPU that is slightly faster than an FX 8350 for about $50 less. You might even be able to do the upgrade without changing your motherboard.
 
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