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September 22, 2013 7:16:31 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm experiencing a once a day Memory Management BSOD (typically 0x0000001A).

I have run 7 passes on Memtest 86+ and gotten 0 errors, and at this point I'm not sure what I should do next.

Below is a summary of installed hardware:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955
Motherboard: Micro-STAR 790FX-GD70
Memory: 8GB Kingston DDR3
GPU: Radeon HD 5750

We're running on Windows 7 64 Bit as well.

I'm by no means an expert so please let me know if I have left out any information that would be needed to diagnose the issue. Any help would be much appreciated.

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a c 5331 } Memory
September 22, 2013 2:45:52 PM

What set of DRAM, the model #, sort of guessing it may be 1600 (possibly 1333) DRAM,if so may want to raise DRAM voltage + 0.05 and the CPU/NB voltage the same
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September 22, 2013 5:00:11 PM

PC3-10700, which when googling seems to be 1333Mhz.

How do I change the voltage? In the BIOS?
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a c 5331 } Memory
September 22, 2013 5:02:23 PM

Yes and it's 1333, should be able to find the model number in CPU-Z on the SPD page under part number
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September 22, 2013 5:35:35 PM

Great! I'll try the bump and get report back

If this isn't the answer it shouldn't damage my cpu/ram?
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a c 5331 } Memory
September 22, 2013 6:04:31 PM

No, a sligh bump of voltage to DRAM is fine, maybe add + 0.05 so if 1.5 sticks go to 1.55
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September 24, 2013 3:12:41 PM

So I have a few quick questions

All my voltages are set to Auto so I don't know what to bump them up to

In CPU-Z the RAM seems to be at 1.5 so that isn't so confusing

But the CPU voltage is fluctuating anywhere between .96 and 1.3

What do I use for the CPU-NB voltage?
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a c 5331 } Memory
September 24, 2013 5:24:31 PM

Just try the DRAM bump first to 1.55
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September 29, 2013 6:16:02 AM

Tradesman1 said:
Just try the DRAM bump first to 1.55


Ok, I tried this, and it does seem to have helped a little? We went three days without the Memory Management error. However I got it again this morning.

Given that the CPU voltage seems to change, I'm not sure what my next step should be
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a c 5331 } Memory
September 29, 2013 8:16:26 AM

OK, now let's take the CPU/NB (which is the MC (memory controller) voltage up about + 0.06
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September 29, 2013 12:55:37 PM

Tradesman1 said:
OK, now let's take the CPU/NB (which is the MC (memory controller) voltage up about + 0.06


The problem is that the CPU NB is set to AUTO so I don't actually know what to up it to.

Also I accidentally selected your previous post as the best answer and don't know how to undo it. Great day for me.
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a c 5331 } Memory
September 29, 2013 1:15:17 PM

Just try setting it to 1.2 for the moment and see how it goes, think that will prob suffice, but have seen people up as high as 1.4, I prefer to keep as low as possible for stabbility to help keep heat down, which is why I suggested low increments
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September 30, 2013 3:12:26 PM

Thanks, off to do that now. Quick addendum, today for the first time I got a different error other than memory management: Bad Pool Header

NO idea what that one means
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a c 5331 } Memory
September 30, 2013 3:22:56 PM

Might try running CHKDSK /R from the command prompt as Administrator,
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October 3, 2013 11:52:50 AM

Ok, I have run chkdsk and the Bad Pool Header hasn't shown up again. We went a full day this time without the Memory management error and just got it again today. Do I up the voltage again?
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a c 5331 } Memory
October 3, 2013 12:10:42 PM

Sounds like we may have it, but have that in the back of your mind so can just try a voltage increase and then post back
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October 15, 2013 6:15:01 PM

how much should I up it this time? .05 again?
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a c 5331 } Memory
October 15, 2013 6:19:13 PM

Yep, to the CPU/NB
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January 25, 2014 1:00:07 PM

So I've been Quite busy but I have a report if you're around, Tradesman

I upped the voltage of the CPU/NB by .05 again and I'm still getting intermittent blue screens.

Would it be acceptable to try this again? Is it still the likely solution? and at what point have I raised the voltage too high?
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a c 5331 } Memory
January 25, 2014 3:53:40 PM

Yes, some have had to go to 1.4 and slightly higher
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a b } Memory
January 27, 2014 11:13:58 AM

The memory corruption error reported by the OS is often caused by a device driver that over writes into shared device driver memory.
When a windows driver detects the modified data it calls a bugcheck an does a memory dump so the problem can be isolated and fixed.
you will generally get slightly different memory dumps in this case due to the fact that windows attempts to load device drivers in different orders on each boot.

if you post the memory dump on a cloud server with public access I can take a quick look at it and see if the cause is clear or if I have a good guess.
also, sometimes when memtest86 passes you still want to swap your memory modules around and run it again. There is always a chance that there could be a bad memory spot that is not in memory that the tool can test. (memory that the tool itself is loaded into for example)


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February 17, 2014 6:24:13 AM

So I have bumped CPU/NB to 1.4

I'm still getting the error every other day or so, and I'm at a loss as to what to do next.

Could the power supply itself be going bad? How would I know?

And can memory still be bad even if memtest gives the all clear?
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February 20, 2014 5:23:17 PM

chinchymcchilla said:
So I have bumped CPU/NB to 1.4

I'm still getting the error every other day or so, and I'm at a loss as to what to do next.

Could the power supply itself be going bad? How would I know?

And can memory still be bad even if memtest gives the all clear?


I'm encountering the same issues as you, including the occasional bad pool header. I've tried everything I've been told, although increasing the voltage was new to me. I did not try this but I've tried everything else without success....

I'm wondering if this could be the SATA Controller or just a bad MC in general... so in otherwords motherboard replacement... but i'm not sure. Could anyone provide some insight?

I'm running a completely different setup than Chinch, though.

i7 4770k on an MSI Z87-G41, 16gb corsair vengeance RAM, GTX 650. Win7 x64....

I'm a bit more familiar, working in IT and PC gaming now for 13 years, so ANY suggestions or input would greatly help...
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March 2, 2014 2:56:07 PM

Is there any way to un-mark an answer as a solution on the thread? I am still stuck and can't figure out what to do next.
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March 2, 2014 3:03:53 PM

Sorry for bumping a thread so old but I am at the end of my rope, I'm about to buy a whole new PC to fix this problem and I KNOW that there must be a simpler way but I just absolutely can't figure out what needs to be replaced. Any help would be incredibly welcome.
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March 2, 2014 3:12:41 PM

One additional piece of information: Before it throws the Memory Management error, it hard locks and repeats the last second of audio and gives visual distorion before going to the blue screen.
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March 5, 2014 4:07:17 PM

One last attempt at bumping this, still have no idea what's going on.
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September 7, 2014 3:31:54 PM

chinchymcchilla said:
One last attempt at bumping this, still have no idea what's going on.


Having same exact problem as everyone else here. Desperate to fix it. Already ran memtest with no errors, leaning towards it being some kind of driver issue. I'm at a complete loss on what to do
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September 30, 2014 3:32:47 PM

Love how nobody answered this guys questions.
When you get an audio loop but no picture it is most likely your video card. You can get memory errors from the video card that are hard to pinpoint. My bet is that it's thermal paste is all dried up and the thing is overheating. Probably too late for you now, but at least we can have an answer for people in the future.
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November 2, 2014 2:08:52 AM

Hi,

I have the same problem. Memory_management, Irq_less_or_not_equal, PFN_list_corrupt. Weird thing is, that it do not happen when i'm playing games, but mostly using internet browsers. Screen freezes, sound loops and BSOD memory dump. Searching for a solution, i've found an info, that my video card driver may cause a problem. On Win7 resource monitor there are memory page faults caused by CCC. My video card is not overheating, CCC temperatures are around 35c, and external probe shows 32c (when playing games, it's adequatly 53c and 49c). I'm going to try to reinstall my video drivers, and see what happens.

Specs:
amd fx-6300
sapphire hd 7850 2gb
crucial ballistix sport 2x4gb 1600 cl9
gigabyte 990xa-ud3
tt toughpower xt 675w
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November 8, 2014 5:02:33 AM

Jameskuga said:
Hi,

I have the same problem. Memory_management, Irq_less_or_not_equal, PFN_list_corrupt. Weird thing is, that it do not happen when i'm playing games, but mostly using internet browsers. Screen freezes, sound loops and BSOD memory dump. Searching for a solution, i've found an info, that my video card driver may cause a problem. On Win7 resource monitor there are memory page faults caused by CCC. My video card is not overheating, CCC temperatures are around 35c, and external probe shows 32c (when playing games, it's adequatly 53c and 49c). I'm going to try to reinstall my video drivers, and see what happens.

Specs:
amd fx-6300
sapphire hd 7850 2gb
crucial ballistix sport 2x4gb 1600 cl9
gigabyte 990xa-ud3
tt toughpower xt 675w


I had the same problem last year. I found the cause was my PSU was not providing enough power to the GPU. I was running a HD7770 with a 700W cheap PSU and the rail was not enough. Everytime your GPU tried to draw more power then what the PSU can give will cause your drivers to crash and BSOD.

Before you go out and buy a new PSU use CCC to underclock your GPU and if that fixes your problem start thinking about buying a new PSU. Look in to the amps and watts each rail gives and make sure the PSU can provide the CPU and GPU enough of everything before buying it.
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November 11, 2014 10:33:32 AM

Following this thread with interest. I searched 'bsod memory_management' as I'm getting the same problem a few times a day, only mine is on an Acer notebook running Win 7 Home Premium.

System spec is: core i5 2430M, 6GB (4 + 2) DDR3, and GeForce GT 520M for video.

A few months ago my battery developed a fault - I now use the laptop plugged in all the time as the battery drains really fast.

I'm wondering if my memory management issue is related to a deteriorating power supply thanks to the bad battery, or a memory module that needs replacing, or just the whole thing slowly cooking itself into oblivion because it's a f*ing laptop!
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November 11, 2014 5:48:21 PM

Simon_962 said:
Following this thread with interest. I searched 'bsod memory_management' as I'm getting the same problem a few times a day, only mine is on an Acer notebook running Win 7 Home Premium.

System spec is: core i5 2430M, 6GB (4 + 2) DDR3, and GeForce GT 520M for video.

A few months ago my battery developed a fault - I now use the laptop plugged in all the time as the battery drains really fast.

I'm wondering if my memory management issue is related to a deteriorating power supply thanks to the bad battery, or a memory module that needs replacing, or just the whole thing slowly cooking itself into oblivion because it's a f*ing laptop!


Hi it could very well be the RAM in your laptop run a memtest (Google) if that comes back with no problems then try to find a new battery just to test. Also give your laptop a damn good clean as over heating could also cause the problem.
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November 15, 2014 3:16:46 AM

James Trendall said:
Jameskuga said:
Hi,

I have the same problem. Memory_management, Irq_less_or_not_equal, PFN_list_corrupt. Weird thing is, that it do not happen when i'm playing games, but mostly using internet browsers. Screen freezes, sound loops and BSOD memory dump. Searching for a solution, i've found an info, that my video card driver may cause a problem. On Win7 resource monitor there are memory page faults caused by CCC. My video card is not overheating, CCC temperatures are around 35c, and external probe shows 32c (when playing games, it's adequatly 53c and 49c). I'm going to try to reinstall my video drivers, and see what happens.

Specs:
amd fx-6300
sapphire hd 7850 2gb
crucial ballistix sport 2x4gb 1600 cl9
gigabyte 990xa-ud3
tt toughpower xt 675w


I had the same problem last year. I found the cause was my PSU was not providing enough power to the GPU. I was running a HD7770 with a 700W cheap PSU and the rail was not enough. Everytime your GPU tried to draw more power then what the PSU can give will cause your drivers to crash and BSOD.

Before you go out and buy a new PSU use CCC to underclock your GPU and if that fixes your problem start thinking about buying a new PSU. Look in to the amps and watts each rail gives and make sure the PSU can provide the CPU and GPU enough of everything before buying it.


I had a quick question about this. I had heard about checking the rails, but my friend helped me build my pc and he suggested a lot of my parts. I've also been having Memory Management BSODs as well as the occasional NTFS.sys ones, as well as BSODs that don't list a cause.

cpu-AMD FX-6350
gpu- Gigabyte GeForce GTX660 OC
psu- Rosewill Capstone 650W-M
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November 18, 2014 2:37:00 PM

Ive been experiencing the same issue: random encounters of the blue screen with "Memory_Management." I went through many of the forum suggestions. Tested each ram stick, checked my SSDs, ran memory tests, reinstalled windows, etc. Finally, i decided to run another memory test when I noticed the options. I ran an Extended memory test this time, and it encountered hardware errors. This error didnt show up during the Standard memory test. I pulled one of the sticks out, re-ran the extended test and no errors were found. Looks like it was hardware after all for me.

Hope this helps.
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November 22, 2014 4:51:13 PM

Hi again,

After some time I can say, that my source of problems were graphics drivers/CCC. I've uninstalled CCC, cleaned registry with driversweeper and reinstalled CCC, and since then i did not encounter this problem anymore. The only one BSOD i've encountered almost right after performing these steps was system_service_exception, and i dont remember what I was doing, but it did not happen again since then.

I think, that in my case it's not PSUs fault, because these BSODs did not have place when playing GPU-stressing games, but mostly using internet browsers (or maybe while displaying flash animations/ads with them) or doing some file managment. I'm going to inform You about any problems anyway, but I hope this truce between me and my PC is going to sustain for a very long time :D 

I hope it can help someone,
Peace!
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November 26, 2014 9:57:35 AM

I have exact similar behavior with my Thinkpad 430s and GTX 770 eGPU. I suspected the PSU, etc but then I removed eGPU it completely and still suffered the exact symptoms you reference!! I could only deduct it was the latest NVIDIA driver. I backed down to a version which was stable earlier and I am typing this in confidence. :) 

Update: despite being new SODIMMS, one developed a fault causing this. So device drivers were OK but memory DIMM were to blame after all.
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January 1, 2015 7:21:44 AM

I'm also following this thread with some interest; I'm getting multiple BSODs a day...it could be Bad_Pool_Header, Memory_Management, or anything else.

I built my PC last year, and the ASUS motherboard (socket for the CPU fan, specifically) crapped out on me after about 12 months. I replaced the mobo with a ASRock Z97 Anniversary, and that's when the problems began. I've updated all the drivers, etc and although the problems have been reduced, they're still around.

I'll try some of the solutions mentioned here, but given that everything was working fine up until the moment I replaced the motherboard, I'm suspecting it's that. Just no way to prove it yet.
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January 18, 2015 1:02:37 PM

I just learned the hard way. After trying to reinstall xp for two weeks and even trying win 95, 98 and win 7 I found that if I opened the system and cleaned the freakin dust off the memory board It solved EVERYTHING. I feel sooo stupid. Kept getting blue screen around the same spot and file errors copying files on installation. Good luck

chinchymcchilla said:
Hello everyone,

I'm experiencing a once a day Memory Management BSOD (typically 0x0000001A).

I have run 7 passes on Memtest 86+ and gotten 0 errors, and at this point I'm not sure what I should do next.

Below is a summary of installed hardware:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955
Motherboard: Micro-STAR 790FX-GD70
Memory: 8GB Kingston DDR3
GPU: Radeon HD 5750

We're running on Windows 7 64 Bit as well.

I'm by no means an expert so please let me know if I have left out any information that would be needed to diagnose the issue. Any help would be much appreciated.


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April 4, 2015 2:26:18 AM

Hi, I tried to install Win XP and Win 7 on some old mobo and disc, but it everytime finished with BSOD Memory management.
So I solved it changing RAM modules. I tried a lot of pieces but finally I placed right ones.

It was 1 core AMD Athlon 3000+ and DDR1 RAM modules (VData works). The old RAMs which didn't work could be covered with dust, co try clean it with air duster or carefully with tooth brush.

Sorry for my english and good luck. Hope it will help U.
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January 5, 2016 11:14:27 PM

So after about two years of having bluescreens, I finally just went ahead and replaced the ram, even after using memtest and nothing showing problems. Completely fixed my computer. I don't have corrupted downloads anymore, no more bluescreens (so far after about 2 months). I guess memtest can't catch everything..
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January 26, 2016 8:00:39 PM

adamv1 said:
Love how nobody answered this guys questions.
When you get an audio loop but no picture it is most likely your video card. You can get memory errors from the video card that are hard to pinpoint. My bet is that it's thermal paste is all dried up and the thing is overheating. Probably too late for you now, but at least we can have an answer for people in the future.


Man, your answer have just saved me from the same error. 27/01/2016!! Thanks a lot!

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February 26, 2016 12:48:31 AM

I have the same issue. Random BSODs: Bad Pool Header, IRQ, Memory management, etc.
Memtest doesn't catch any issues. Swapping/removing memory sticks doesn't help.

I suspect it must be a bad driver, but not sure which one. Had this issue on Windows 7 first, then upgraded to Windows 8/8.1 and it resolved itself. Now I upgraded to Windows 10 and it's back again.
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April 16, 2016 6:52:59 AM

Tradesman1 said:
Yes, some have had to go to 1.4 and slightly higher

I had the same issue as the OP - got Memory Management BSOD. Windows Memory Diagnostics says that I have malfunction with the system. I've tested the memory modules with other computer running memtest+ and prime 95 = no errors.

I have raised the Dram Voltage by +0.05 from bios and now Windows Memory Diagnostics doesn't find errors. So the problem is kinda solved...

Now I want to raise the CPU/NB with +0.06 thought I'm using Intel Processor so no NB here regarding bios and I'm bit confused what to do next -- or leave it as-is.

CPU: i5 4690K
Motherboard: Asus B85-Pro Gamer (ROG) UEFI Bios
Memory: 16Gb Crucial Ballistix Sport (Micron modules) DDR3
GPU: nVidia GTX 960 4Gb
PSU: Corsair VS650, 80 PLUS White (2 days old psu)
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May 29, 2016 9:48:36 AM

Leonardo_4 said:
adamv1 said:
Love how nobody answered this guys questions.
When you get an audio loop but no picture it is most likely your video card. You can get memory errors from the video card that are hard to pinpoint. My bet is that it's thermal paste is all dried up and the thing is overheating. Probably too late for you now, but at least we can have an answer for people in the future.


Man, your answer have just saved me from the same error. 27/01/2016!! Thanks a lot!



doesnt do us laptop users a lot of good.. damn GPU is integrated and no way to pinpoint the chip to check thermal paste.. but basicly ive done everything i can think of.. ie cleaning dust better/new fans new ram.. only thing left is to find a way to run liquid nitrogen around mainboard to cool it.. again laptop... then again its run for 8 years, so it may be dying anyways.. and yes i get bsod's screen freezing distorted audio... and no fix ever found.. heck ive even gone as far as claiming that its all part of the windows conspiracy to force upgrade to latest version.. " even if hardware wont support upgrade"
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3 minutes ago

Not sure if this helps anyone, however I have been having random BSOD's with Gigabyte P43-ES3G and NVIDIA GTS 450, after a few days, and noticing that the same issue does not continue in Ubuntu 16.04 I did a little research. Turns out, the newest Nvidia drivers seem to be causing the problem. Uninstalled nvidia driver, rebooted, allowed windows to install Standard VGA driver, then did clean install of Nvidia driver 361.91. Seems to have solved problem for now..
Havent tested to see if I can add old ram back into system, as adding ram to system caused nvidia to claim system ram and caused windows to bsod, claiming hardware has changed.
Seems different configurations cause windows to crash.
To date windows drivers swapped out for proprietary:
athrx.sys -> Dlink Xtreme Wireless driver from Dlink
Windows Nvidia WDDM --> Nvidia driver 361.91
Added pentium 3 cpu fan to NorthBridge heatsink, --> No longer needed after downgrading to 361.91

Hopefully this helps someone

Long story short.. Do not upgrade nvidia drivers unless absolutely necessary and you know the risks you are getting into.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
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