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AMD FX8350 vs i5 4670k vs i7 3770K

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September 23, 2013 7:16:39 PM

Hello people,

  • I am gonna build a new desktop and for the start i can't decide on what to base it.

  • My budget will be around 800-850ish pounds. I will build my desktop mainly for productivity software such as Premiere, some Maya (not something very complex), Photoshop, Illustrator.

  • I will run games as well, but casual (mostly trying different games for research - concept art).


    I am getting stuck while trying to take the best decision on what platform to start with. I know that money-wise is better to go for the FX8350 but in the same time i'm thinking that i would choose the i5 for the new generation of chips.

    Also, i had to consider the i7 3370k which comes with grater price but has similar performances with the FX8350 and beyond, with the help of hyperthreading especially for things as editing or cuda for photoshop.


    Please help me take a decision,

    Thank you very much!

    Alex









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    September 23, 2013 7:23:19 PM

    I would personally say go for the 4670K or the 3770K. I have an FX-8350, and while there isn't anything wrong with it, both of those intel chips trounce it easily without even thinking about it. The 8350 may be "cheaper," but you're getting more long-term performance for your dollar with either of those solutions
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    September 23, 2013 7:28:35 PM

    Your best bet is the FX-8350 at that budget. Although a 4770K or 3770K would provide higher performance, the budget doesn't accommodate an I7 build.
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    September 23, 2013 7:33:50 PM

    FX-8350/i7/i5/A-series (AMD) breakdown:

    Fx-8350 - great for heavy multitasking (big programs such as Photoshop or illustrator, this particular processor is very resourceful in having 8 true cores dedicated for multitasking, a nice little feature about this processor is that it has the abilities to move "power" between cores, so if 1-5 are being used heavily then cores 6-8 will "pile their power" into cores 1-5. This is great if you do heavy multitasking, since it attempts to make up for the "lost performance (not that it has any I have found so far), this processor is also a great choice if you are going to overclocking for games. This is useful if you plan to edit videos and music, as the extra cores can balance out a computer doing heavy tasks better. The downside to this processor is that you will be (forced) to by a dedicated graphics card, as it doesn't come with integrated graphics.

    i7 - This processor like the Fx-8350 is great for light multitasking, in the fact that it only has 4 cores (8 "see-able" cores). It's usually just as (if not more) powerful as the FX-8350, the nice little benefit with this quad core processor is it has 8 core (see-able), meaning that it has 4 cores split in 2, meaning that technically it has 8 cores (for usage), but it acts like a quad core, both (depending on which i7 processor you go with will usually have around the same GHz as the FX-8350). Also depending on the processor you get some i7's come with integrated graphics, which is nice if your not doing heavy graphic related tasks, this can save you money.

    i5 - This is the processor you would want if you do purely gaming. This processor is a straight (true) quad-core processor just like the A10 would be a straight (true) quad core processor, these are great for gaming because they have high GHz and less cores (very very very rarely does a game ever use more then 4 cores in a PC.

    A10 (AMD A-series) (Added-in) - The a-series are great for multitasking as well, but not so much gaming, they all mostly come with integrated graphics, but the integrated graphics they provide aren't a match for a dedicated graphics card. I run a A6 vision in my laptop (quad core) and i can run Sims 3, about half maxed out (roughly). These are also quad core.

    AMD = usually better heavy multitasking vs. Intel: usually better light multitasking and gaming.
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    AMD = cheaper budget vs. Intel = more expensive budget.


    In your budget range i would go with either a gigabyte or Asus motherboard with a FX-8350 (Black Edition) 4.0 GHz, just for the price range, otherwise i would recommend you to go with the i7.
    Choice is yours hope this helps, feel free to pm or ask questions if you have any.
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    September 23, 2013 7:43:12 PM

    This would be my recommendation:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $853.89
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    September 23, 2013 7:48:19 PM

    slomo4sho said:
    This would be my recommendation:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($144.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $853.89


    Agreed that would be about the best you can get for that budget range, except its not in pounds lol if you pick one of ours for the best answer pick his since he came up with it originally, i will convert it for you.

    United Kingdom:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£141.59 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120XL 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£70.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£61.06 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£181.13 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.64 @ CCL Computers)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.55 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£12.98 @ Novatech)
    Total: £635.88
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 03:46 BST+0100)


    ***Also I run the same video card only sapphire in my system 3 gb 7950 and it runs everything i throw at it, literally, there amazing little graphic cards.
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    September 23, 2013 8:35:44 PM

    Some alterations for UK parts availability:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£141.59 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£62.95 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£73.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (£137.99 @ Novatech)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.98 @ Aria PC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£173.75 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.55 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£67.99 @ Dabs)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£11.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Total: £845.05
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    September 23, 2013 11:32:21 PM

    slomo4sho said:
    Some alterations for UK parts availability:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£141.59 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£62.95 @ CCL Computers)
    Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£73.16 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory (£137.99 @ Novatech)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.98 @ Aria PC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£173.75 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.55 @ Amazon UK)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£67.99 @ Dabs)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£11.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Total: £845.05


    I like most of it but i think we can do even better here's my suggestion take it or leave it for what its worth:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£141.59 @ Aria PC)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.00 @ Amazon UK)
    Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£130.28 @ Amazon UK)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£65.52 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£74.99 @ Amazon UK)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.98 @ Aria PC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£189.33 @ Amazon UK)
    Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.99 @ Aria PC)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£67.99 @ Dabs)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£11.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
    Total: £848.77
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 07:39 BST+0100)

    What I changed and why:
    I changed the CPU Cooler, cause it pushes more air, and its (in my opinion) more realiable, besides its cheaper in price.
    I changed your motherboard, i run the same motherboard and its extremely stable even in overclocking, plus it has more of a bang for the price.
    I changed your memory, unless you really plan on overclocking this this majorly i wouldn't even touch the 2400Mhz RAM speed, stick with 1866MHz, with this motherboard it's better to stay within that range.
    I also changed your video card to a Sapphire (I have one and they can handle extremely demanding graphics and its a higher MHz then the MSI, besides it always best to get what you can for the buck.
    I changed your case, this one has a side window and it looks nicer (if you want to make it look expensive run the NZXT Hue (google it) around the window so it changes colors).

    And that is pretty much it like i said take it or leave it doesn't make me any difference, just trying to get the best bang for your buck.
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    October 11, 2013 4:52:21 PM

    Hello,

    Thank you all for sugestions!
    Well, I bought a part of the stuff:

    CPU: AMD FX-8350
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212
    STORAGE: Kingston SSD + Seagate Barracuda
    CASE: Cooler Master CM 690 Advanced Edition Black & White
    MONITOR: DELL U2312H
    OPTICAL DRIVE: Lite-On iHDS118-04


    Ok, now i have 500 pounds left to decide for motherboard, memory, power supply and gpu. I am trying to get the best deal out of those ones.

    My option are:

    Power Supply: XFX 650W
    Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
    Memory: I will go with at least 16GB, i was thinking at Corsair Vengance
    GPU: HD 7950, or around..

    I m waiting for your suggestions,

    Thank you!
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    October 11, 2013 5:33:02 PM

    With your combination of apps and needs, the 3770K is the best bet CPU wise, 2nd would be the 8350, with Hyperthreading the 3770K clock for clock is more powerful, a good mobo to pair with it is the Rock's Z77 Extreme 4
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    October 11, 2013 10:33:02 PM

    Get the AMD CPU. It's a much better value and as for gaming, well check this out:

    You can quite clearly see that the AMD CPUs do perfectly fine in gaming, especially the FX-6300 and FX-8350. Spending the extra $130 or more on the Intel CPU makes no sense for just 8fps more. Note that several i5 and i7 processors fall behind the FX-8350 and only the VERY expensive i7s have better frame rates (not that it would be noticeable at that level). Battlefield 4 is a brand-new game that is very taxing on computer hardware. This is probably the most relevant gaming metric out there right now. If the FX-8350 does this well in BF4, then it will do even better on all the other games that are not as demanding.
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    October 11, 2013 10:44:54 PM

    If primary is productivity software as stated the 3770K is definitely better with it's hyper threading, and it even out games the 8350 even at stock (i.e. in the examplye above the 3770K is more powerful than the 2600K, then it also OCs very well, so if you were to run it clock for clock with an 8350 it would leave the AMD far, far behind
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    October 12, 2013 12:05:59 AM

    Huh, cute...

    Tom's review shows the 2500k leaving the FX 8350 behind.

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    October 12, 2013 12:10:32 AM

    That's what I was saying, when you look at clock for clock, the 2500K, 2600K, 3750K, 3770K, 4670K and 4770K all run away from the 8350 and laugh, MOST reviews though show all the Intel chips at simply their 3.3-3.5 stock clock, they hardly ever show them OCed to near the 8350 stock GHz (which by the way is preOCed
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    October 12, 2013 12:48:52 AM

    Gaming yes, however some people (like me) use it to the potential and use it for multimedia purposes.
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    October 12, 2013 2:52:08 PM

    ddbtkd456 said:
    Gaming yes, however some people (like me) use it to the potential and use it for multimedia purposes.


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    If talking about the 8350, it's better at rendering than the i5's at clock for clock, but falls far behind i7s, and for everything else, it's either i7 or i5 is better
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