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Hello All I'm Building a system for Wow and general gaming for a friend budget is between $2000 - $3000 they want something fairly killer, here's two options I've put together any suggestions?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($249.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($350.48 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($245.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.00 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($147.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $2446.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 08:23 EDT-0400)

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4820K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($323.87 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($350.48 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($245.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($409.99 @ NCIX)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($199.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.00 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($147.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $2520.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 08:24 EDT-0400)

Which is better any recommend changes? Should I go with cheaper mobo/less ram and add another gtx 770? Any comments would be helpful
 
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1) 8GB DDR3 (1866/2133MHz)
More for gaming is a total waste of money and just adds heat.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550

2) SSD
120GB is adequate and you can install games on the hard drive. WOW and most games won't benefit from SSD aside from booting between 1.5 and 3x faster.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1J211H7828

3) i5-4670K
The i7 as mentioned is basically a waste of money for gaming.

4) PSU
$200 is ridiculous for the PSU. You can get an awesome 750W Rosewill for about $100 that has great reviews.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073

5) Motherboard:
The Asus HERO VI is my recommended Z87 motherboard. It's $200 and has SupremeFX audio...
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Hey thanks, I updated the post, for some reason both systems I'm comparing didn't show up.

Thanks
 
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Well if money is not the problem you are very good to go but there are some "overkill" components

CPU: and i5 is more than enough for gaming, not really taking advantage of the i7.
RAM: 32GB is WAY too much. 8GB is enough for most (if not all) games but if you want to be use 16GB is really enough.

If it is for gaming why not go for a SLI? With a budget of 2500$ you can fit one really easy lowring the cpu and RAM...
 
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As mentioned above, i7 is a waste for gaming. An i5 will be a better choice.

16GB or RAM is also more than enough.

750w PSU is more than enough for a single GPU overclocked system.

Windows 7 Pro - get the UPGRADE version if you can, not OEM. Win7 Pro upgrade comes with both the 32bit and 64bit install DvDs, and is fully transferrable without jumping through any hoops.
 
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Points:

1) 8GB DDR3 (1866/2133MHz)
More for gaming is a total waste of money and just adds heat.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550

2) SSD
120GB is adequate and you can install games on the hard drive. WOW and most games won't benefit from SSD aside from booting between 1.5 and 3x faster.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1J211H7828

3) i5-4670K
The i7 as mentioned is basically a waste of money for gaming.

4) PSU
$200 is ridiculous for the PSU. You can get an awesome 750W Rosewill for about $100 that has great reviews.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073

5) Motherboard:
The Asus HERO VI is my recommended Z87 motherboard. It's $200 and has SupremeFX audio which is much better than any Realtek solution.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131989

6) Windows 8 64-bit (non-Pro)
- Windows 8 is superior to W7.
- PRO is a waste of money for W7 or W8 if you don't need the features Pro specifically adds.
- *get START8 from Stardock if you buy W8 to bypass the new interface (will work just like Windows 7 with the improvements that Windows 8 provides in several areas)

7) GTX770
- The ASUS version is very well made and even has a BACKPLATE. I recommend that card instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121770

8) CASE:
If that's the case you want, fine, but there are great cases for a fraction of the price. You also don't require a full tower. A mid tower is plenty.

The Corsair 600T is $120. I also love the Corsair Air 540 which is very well designed (it's wider but shorter than most cases).

9) Cooler
- The Corsair H110i would be better than the H100i.
- There are great air coolers for about $50 such as the Cooler Master V8 which would work well with the Intel i5 CPU's.

SUMMARY:
By implementing all of the above changes you would save about $800 but have nearly exactly the same gaming experience.

Again, several of your choices are overkill and in some cases like the 32GB of memory even WORSE because they add heat and provide absolutely NOTHING for gaming.

Finally, there are better things you can do with that extra $800 such as a 2560x1440 monitor, better speakers etc.

The GRAPHICS CARD is the primary gaming component so a GTX 780 (EVGA with ACX cooler for $660) would be a big upgrade over the 770. It won't matter for WOW but there are games it would improve so if you want to throw money at a machine put it where it matters the most:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130918

(WARNING: there are several EVGA models. The $660 model with ACX cooler and 1020MHz is probably the best one. Some are $10 cheaper but much slower or more expensive but barely faster.)
 
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infectiousdesigns

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Hey thanks for your recommendations and I talked to my friend whom I'm building the system for and he wants to future proof the system so he's good for a few more years, and wants to be able to handle anything he can throw at it game wise for at least a little while. So with that in mind I made some changes using your recommendations, he likes the full size case, I swapped in two 770s , like you said probably overkill now, but maybe not in a couple years... also he is doing some image/video editing... Main question is does this seem balanced and the best bang for the price (he already has a few 27" displays and all the fancy peripherals)

Thanks Again!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($198.64 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($350.48 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($245.02 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.99 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($419.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($419.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($120.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($65.00 @ Vuugo)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($97.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $2695.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 18:02 EDT-0400)
 
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Well if your friend really want to spend that much money you got a very good system there, still you can save much money puting an i5 and 16GB of RAM (hell 8 GB is enough) without using a single fps in most games... The rest is really among the best you can get so I got nothing to say :)
 
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Minor comment on build:

1) The H110 is the newer cooler with some improvements:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181035

2) VIDEO RAM:
Get more than 2GB per GPU. You said he wants to be "future-proofed" and he's spending lots of money. Go with 4GB versions of the 770.

*I still think a single 780 3GB card would be ideal. Plenty of performance, 3GB for a little future-proofing of VRAM and it will be quieter than two 770's. If he really needs more performance the card should still be available in a year, and if he doesn't need the performance for two or three years then he should be getting a newer card then anyway like a GTX980 4GB or whatever.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130918

Summary:
- H110 ?
- GTX780 3GB or 770 4GB ?
 
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