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September 24, 2013 11:44:37 AM

Hi. I've been looking to build a computer for about half a year now so I've done a lot of research but I don't want to finally order all of my parts and end up being completely wrong or have an overkill build.

I don't have much yet but I know I want the best computer possible for what I would use it for. I know water cooling is better than air so I would really like that.

I also would want to have an Phantom 820 case but I read that it's more optimized for air cooling, so I'm willing to switch for a Corsair 900D.

Anything else is acceptable. I don't really have a budget as long as it's not insane and over the top. If possible, I want it to be upgradable so that I can modify it whenever something better is created.

Currently, I game a lot and I would like to play my games at max graphics flawlessly. My main game would be World of Warcraft but I also play more occassionally.

Along with gaming, I also play around with Adobe After Effects. I just graduated high school so I'll be going to college to study computer science and video game design. And I also edit videos and add effects for friends.

I think it's a lot but I'm sure it's possible to get an optimal build for this.

If you could explain the parts it would be great because I want to learn the process of choosing parts so that I can make more builds in the future.

Thanks a lot for the help in advance.

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September 24, 2013 1:05:25 PM

Hey there!
This is what I've put together for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1238.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 15:54 EDT-0400)

Now, this should definitely suit you for gaming for years to come. Video editing should run smoothly too. I added an SSD so you can run your system and programs smoothly, with an added HDD for lots of storage and gaming. That's entirely up to you of course, going without an SSD will easily save you $100.
About water cooling: Water cooling is definitely more efficient than air cooling, but absolutely unnecessary in a build like this. Water cooling only starts to become relevant in massive, high end, overclocked builds. If you find it's just really cool to have it can always be added of course, but it would make this a lot more expensive than it has to be :) 

And finally, the case is a very personal thing of course, it's what you're going to be looking at most of the time. The Phantom 820 you chose (and I put into the build) is an awesome looking case, but you could easily shave $150-200 off the price of your rig if you're willing to go for a cheaper one (like this one). But again, that's entirely up to your personal preference.

Let me know if you have any questions! :) 
September 24, 2013 1:44:32 PM

what would be the max. amount you would want to spend ?

on how much monitors you are going to play on which resolution?
do you want to overclock?

is aesthetics important to you?
do you want a small/big pc ?

want to do a custome watercooling build ? ( would probably start a normal pc,maybe later add one)
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September 24, 2013 3:20:06 PM

Redspring said:
Hey there!
This is what I've put together for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1238.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 15:54 EDT-0400)

Now, this should definitely suit you for gaming for years to come. Video editing should run smoothly too. I added an SSD so you can run your system and programs smoothly, with an added HDD for lots of storage and gaming. That's entirely up to you of course, going without an SSD will easily save you $100.
About water cooling: Water cooling is definitely more efficient than air cooling, but absolutely unnecessary in a build like this. Water cooling only starts to become relevant in massive, high end, overclocked builds. If you find it's just really cool to have it can always be added of course, but it would make this a lot more expensive than it has to be :) 

And finally, the case is a very personal thing of course, it's what you're going to be looking at most of the time. The Phantom 820 you chose (and I put into the build) is an awesome looking case, but you could easily shave $150-200 off the price of your rig if you're willing to go for a cheaper one (like this one). But again, that's entirely up to your personal preference.

Let me know if you have any questions! :) 


Hey thanks Redspring. This looks like something really solid. I'll do the research on these parts. But is this something I can really use if I begin to get more advanced at this and decide I want to do more high-powered things? If not can I improve it easily? I also want to watch movies on it and I may have to double it as a television. I know I need a capture card for that. Thanks again for your response.
September 24, 2013 3:29:19 PM

Marcopolo123 said:
what would be the max. amount you would want to spend ?

on how much monitors you are going to play on which resolution?
do you want to overclock?

is aesthetics important to you?
do you want a small/big pc ?

want to do a custome watercooling build ? ( would probably start a normal pc,maybe later add one)


Hey. I don't really have a max amount.I actually had setup a $3000 build ready before I realized I should get some help before I used all that money. So as long as it's working it's no waste of money to me. I just want something really useful and the added benefit of a really nice decoration in my room. I also was hoping to have 3 monitors. That I would want to use to watch 3D and touchscreen. I know this probably doubles the price of the build but I would really like that since I'm also going to be watching movies on this. I'm not sure about resolution but I would like something good I think. I don't know how to overclock yet but I do plan on doing it once it is built so I would like to be able to overclock. Aesthetics are important but performance over aesthetics. Aesthetics over price. I also want something big. I would like to water cool but if it's really not necessary than I'll be fine with air cooling.
September 24, 2013 3:33:47 PM

You mean more advanced and high powered video editing? I'm not that familiar with editing, but this is easily upgradeable. You can easily upgrade the RAM, swap out the graphics card for a new one (not that you would need to do that in the next few years), replace/add storage devices. I purposefully added a slightly overpowered PSU for your system to take future upgrades into account.
September 24, 2013 3:48:29 PM

Redspring said:
You mean more advanced and high powered video editing? I'm not that familiar with editing, but this is easily upgradeable. You can easily upgrade the RAM, swap out the graphics card for a new one (not that you would need to do that in the next few years), replace/add storage devices. I purposefully added a slightly overpowered PSU for your system to take future upgrades into account.


Well thanks. I think this may be the build I'm looking for. I also want to add a drive to read Blu-Ray and a monitor with HD. Can that be done with what's given?
September 24, 2013 3:50:15 PM

I updated the build with more of an eye for overclocking, including a more overclocking friendly CPU and a small liquid CPU cooler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H50 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($48.96 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1338.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 18:46 EDT-0400)

This should serve you great when gaming at a standard Full HD 1080p
If you want I can also put together an all out build for you that will serve you for many years to come and will also be more 'future proof', but will of course also be more expensive.
September 24, 2013 3:57:02 PM

Redspring said:
I updated the build with more of an eye for overclocking, including a more overclocking friendly CPU and a small liquid CPU cooler

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H50 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($48.96 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($394.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1338.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 18:46 EDT-0400)

This should serve you great when gaming at a standard Full HD 1080p
If you want I can also put together an all out build for you that will serve you for many years to come and will also be more 'future proof', but will of course also be more expensive.


Well sounds good then. And that would be great. If you can put together a build like that I would appreciate it.
September 24, 2013 4:00:58 PM

Has everything you need.

Sidenotes-

-air cooling is better than water cooling, unless it's a custom water cooler
- the above build can't be overclocked
- AMD is the best competitor when it comes to editing, and is great for gaming as well
- this build is great performance and cost wise

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($283.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($65.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS238H-P 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1098.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 18:58 EDT-0400)
September 25, 2013 1:22:08 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($325.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($125.74 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($175.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($161.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
Other: xspc raystorm 750 240 ($150.00)
Total: $2484.36
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-25 04:21 EDT-0400)

enough money left to make a gpu waterloop :) 

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September 25, 2013 1:49:12 AM
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H50 57.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($185.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu Red Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($90.15 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($176.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($394.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($394.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($219.99 @ Best Buy)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2014.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-25 04:47 EDT-0400)

RazerZ has a very nice cost effective build, and Marcopolo has your tv watching needs covered :p  I don't think those monitors support your desired 3D though
September 25, 2013 6:16:10 PM

Thank you all for your assistance. I'll choose a build soon.
September 25, 2013 6:35:03 PM

What's the difference between SLI and Crossfire and why should I pick one over the other?
September 26, 2013 3:46:52 AM

not big of a difference.

2xhd 7970 ~600$
2xgtx 770 ~800$

both options have about the same performance
hd 7970 is generaly better at higher resolutions, also depending on which games.
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