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Corsair Dominator Platinum vs Patriot Viper extreme

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September 24, 2013 1:38:15 PM

I recently acquired Patriot VIPERS rated @ 1.5v PC 2133mhz though I look @ the Corsair Dominators Platinum @ the same speed and they're rated @ 1.65v, wouldn't 1.5v be better and less heat/better performance or am I missing the gap here?

Also still debating on DP's lol http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

vs the ones I got the other day http://www.ramexperts.com/patriot-pv332g213c1qkbl-sapph...


Summary specs:

Viper: 324$ for 32gb kit
Series: Viper 3
Edition: Sapphire Blue
Capacity: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Quad Kit
DIMM Type: 240-Pin NON-ECC UDIMM
Voltage: 1.5V
Tested Frequency: PC3-17000 (2133MHz)
Tested Timings: 11-11-11-30
Base Frequency: PC3-12800 (1600MHz)
Base Timings: 9-9-9-24




Corsair Dominator Platinum Specs: 440$ for 32gb kit
Tested Voltage1.65
SPD Voltage1.5
Speed Rating PC3-17066 (2133MHz)
SPD Speed 1333MHz
Tested Speed 2133Mhz
Tested Latency 9-11-11-31
SPD Latency9-9-9-24


I can't really vouch the price diff though tbh...there's gotta be something I'm missing besides name brand, that + the vipers are rated @ 1.5 while the Dominator Plats are 1.65 both PC-17000. From what I"m seeing the odds are showing the VIPER as better, but again want to ensure I"m not overlooking something as well.

Any input and help is appreciated.

And also what will I be using this for?

I'll be getting the Asus RIVE black edition w/ a 4960x looking to O/C around 4-4.5 currently depending on my needs. 2x Titans SLI possibly a 3rd later.

Open for suggestions between the 2, including lower speeds (1866 etc)

Justification: Multiple VM's , multiple browser tabs, Gaming, ramdisk, video editing, and VERY large photoshop files for photography/digital editing and creation.
September 24, 2013 1:48:53 PM

You are paying a premium for aesthetics with the Dominators. Go with either of the following:

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 32GB $310
DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Timing 10-12-12-28
Cas Latency 10
Voltage 1.58V

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB $330
DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
Timing 9-11-11-31
Cas Latency 9
Voltage 1.6V

Alternatively, consider two kits of the following:
G.SKILL Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) = $310
DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
Timing 11-13-13-31
Cas Latency 11
Voltage 1.65V
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September 24, 2013 2:23:40 PM

Appreciate it though I already own the VIPER set just unopened, wanted to verify I wasn't missing anything and appears I wasn't which is good. Do you believe the Viper to be a bad pick? Also as far as voltage goes wouldn't 1.5 be better for the new board vice 1.65?
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September 24, 2013 2:39:12 PM

The viper set is fine. I was just recommending cheaper options. There isn't any issue with 1.65V since higher performance requires higher voltages.
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September 24, 2013 6:31:48 PM

The platinum uses higher end memory chips, and has more OC headroom, thus the lower voltage required for running at 2133, and the much higher price, can get a good set of 2400 for less than that platinum set- and right at a set 2666 for about $10 more (the GSkill Tridents 2666 set)
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September 24, 2013 8:27:15 PM

Tradesman1 said:
The platinum uses higher end memory chips, and has more OC headroom, thus the lower voltage required for running at 2133, and the much higher price, can get a good set of 2400 for less than that platinum set- and right at a set 2666 for about $10 more (the GSkill Tridents 2666 set)


Interesting, though since I"m not extensively overclocking past 4.5 for the given moment, till maybe later when I build a custom loop, would 2666 be even worth it? As far as I know other than benchmarking tests I don't recall anything higher than 2133 being noticeable.

Mainly trying to justify which would be best for this case scenario, I like the DP's for aesthetic value mainly (from a top view ) but other than that the timings seem lower than that of the VIPER and the voltage required is higher than the Viper as well + base speeds are higher on the Viper 1600 vice 1333.

I haven't checked out the GSKILL yet, Would I need to make any alterations in my bios besides XMP if I went 2666? I need to verify if thats natively supported I guess. 2400 Looks like a sweet spot. Just looking for the best type of ram ( top 3 I guess ) in case I go 64gb I won't see to much of a drop as some sets will drop in performance when changing up to 8 sticks vs 4.

Appreciate both of your input this far!
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September 24, 2013 8:54:00 PM

If thinking 64GB possible, then would stick with 2400 as a max, and the Tri's should just be enable XMP and go...I started using them when they first came out, and are my first choice for builds (I'm strictly Intel on builds, using Asus, the Rock and GB)...think you'll like 'em, especially with the apps your using and what all you are doing, I do all the same as well as a fair amount of video, CAD, GIS work, and do some simulation software evals, so fast DRAM and a lot of it comes in real handy ;) 
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September 24, 2013 10:01:53 PM

Tradesman1 said:
If thinking 64GB possible, then would stick with 2400 as a max, and the Tri's should just be enable XMP and go...I started using them when they first came out, and are my first choice for builds (I'm strictly Intel on builds, using Asus, the Rock and GB)...think you'll like 'em, especially with the apps your using and what all you are doing, I do all the same as well as a fair amount of video, CAD, GIS work, and do some simulation software evals, so fast DRAM and a lot of it comes in real handy ;) 



Wow thats actually pretty good , and the price is nearly identical to my Vipers, I can't see to find my Reviews on the Vipers to be honest, though they keep stating BEST W/ Extreme processors, so was thinking hmmmmmm"

so 2400 would be optimal for 64gb in the long run? I'll be doing 32 for now ,and possibly 64 later depending on how well these handle everything, I'm usually around 45-60% with 24gb atm when doing heavy work. And these would be better than the Vipers correct?

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September 24, 2013 10:24:43 PM

I haven't found any 2400 sets to match them (in fact most others are copying these down to the advanced timings) Gskill came out with their 2400 32GB Tridents, think it was May of last year I got them for my Ivy Bridge, Corsair just came out with a 2400 32GB set a few months ago....think you'll be happy with them, have used a number of the sets, and suggested to many people with no complaints on them yet
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September 25, 2013 11:33:02 AM

Alright appreciate both of your help, Especially Tradesmen for turning me on to this RAM! Gonna return my Vipers and hopefully get myself a kit today, if not I'll just order on new egg! Thanks so much!

Last question I guess would be, if I'm not in full Overclock would there be issues running @ 2400? Or would it not matter regardless and the motherboard would adapt? I'll manually do the timings but unsure w/ the voltage settings / required formula per clock rate. ( if any )
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September 25, 2013 3:01:22 PM

For 2400, it require require a bit of a CPU OC (which you have already exceeded ;)  ) so should be no worries, just power off, pull old stick, install new, go to BIOS enable XMP, take profile 1, save exit, and boot up, should be good
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September 26, 2013 11:07:25 AM

Sorry last question then. I'm still building the system and debating between WC and using the Corsair h100i for the mean time I"ll be using my Hyper212 so I"ll be keeping it max around 4ghz will that cause issues w/ the 2400?

If so I can send it back and get the 2133 that way I'm in a sweet spot I guess, just want to verify as I'm now worried. Whats the lowest I can be at?
Or is there a formula I can run to verify.

Also on newegg it specifies the RAM @ Quad Channel which I ordered but on GSkill's site it says Dual Channel, which is it ? As this is for Ivy Bridge E that I'll be ulitizing it for.
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