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Ive done lots of research in the past 2-3 weeks this is my second PC build so not a total noob, here it is:

Case: RAIDMAX Agusta ATX-605BT Black/Titanium ($99.99)
Mobo: Asus Maximus VI Hero ($199.99)
CPU: i5-4670k Haswell 1150 ($239.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 ($78.99)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 ($184.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM ($69.99)
GPU: ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2GD5 GeForce GTX 760 2GB ($259.99)
PSU: Antec 650w (free from friend)
Optical drive: LG DVD (free from friend)

I have a 46" 1080p 120Hz tv for a monitor
Ill buy OS, mouse, and keyboard later on..

Comes to about $1121.24 w/ a discount not including rebates, $25 in rebates so..
Final Total: $1096.24

What do you guys think? I really want an ssd but cant really afford it in the budget.

This isn't only for gaming (which there will be alot of) but a fair amount of CAD also.
 
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I and my friend have the Asus P8Z77-LK motherboard I listed in the build, and he has his 3570k water-cooled and OC'ed to 4.7ghz stable, so the board itself will handle the OC just fine. Really, past a certain point the difference in OC's between boards is only noticeable at the extreme high end.

If you are ok budget wise, I'd still get the 3770k. It be faster for your CAD work, and there are some games that do take advantage of the hyperthreading capabilities. I'd expect this to increase in the future actually. Crysis 3 is one such game that plays better on an I7 than an I5. Of course, the decision is yours and either one is a great choice.
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The build looks pretty good. I do have to ask though - did you choose that mobo just for looks and/or did you intend to do some serious overclocking? I feel like you could benefit from getting a 120-128gb ssd. I'm not familiar with cad, but does ram speed really affect it so much that you opted for 2133mhz? I'm sorry if that's a dumb question.
 
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1100 for a gaming/CAD machine minus OS, PSU, and optical drive should be more than doable.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.90 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($70.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1087.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 21:51 EDT-0400)

I7 for your CAD work. Even though it's an IB core, you'll save time over the Haswell I5, and only lose a very small bit in gaming. Fit a 120gb SSD in the budget by saving money on the Ram and Case. There might be a measurable difference between the Ram, but you won't notice a difference. This case also has enough room for all of your components you have listed, plus some. Good motherboard for a good price, overclocks well. Better cooler for slightly less. Different 760, but similar specs and you save 10 dollars.
 
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Hey thanks for the replies all. I cant decide between these 3 cases actually:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119263
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146106

I know the prices are different but they all have unique features i really like!

The CAD programs ill be running 3D MAX and Inventor (im going to school to be an enginner and get my CAD degree) from what ive read/heard are pretty dependent on RAM, which is why i went for the 16GB @2133 i was originally looking at 8GB @ 2133 but was convinced otherwise. I was actually recommended 2400mhz ram but was a little pricey..

And yes i did choose both the mobo and cpu cooler because ill be overclocking pretty intensely.

So i should swap the hdd for an ssd or try to get both?

Thank you!

 
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Your build is definitely overkill. Cad doesn't require a whole lot, even a GT 720 would cut it. This build is great for gaming and cad, and pretty much does everything you need while saving a lot of money. Here it is:

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CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($174.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $739.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Cad doesn't even use over 4gb of ram... my school computers have core i5s with GT 720, 8gb of ram and it runs it very smoothly with no problems at all.
 
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Perhaps, but it would run faster on an i7 with 16gb's of Ram. However, the fx 8350 is a good choice for saving money on the Cpu for CAD, but it's not near as powerful for gaming. Depends on where the priority lies.

 
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Well if you wanted to use your motherboard you should get a i5-4670k with DDR3-1886 or above ram and a GTX 760. But trust me AMD is just as good, and is faster for Auto cad.
 
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Well if you wanted to use your motherboard you should get a i5-4670k with DDR3-1886 (brand doesn't matter in ram) or above ram and a GTX 760. But trust me AMD is just as good, and is faster for Auto cad.
 
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I do just as much gaming as CAD if not more. I play games like TOR, Asassins Creed, BF, GTA, COD, and more. As of right now CAD is school related work not as a job or anything yet but i do put some good hours into it. Im really looking for the best balance possible. I really prefer the brands ASUS, Intel and nVidia.
 
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Alright let me make a few changes.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($225.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.04 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Zalman Z9 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $967.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-24 22:41 EDT-0400)
 
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If you are wanting to overclock, you'd be better off going with a 3570k since Haswell is really hit or miss on it's overclockability. With IB, you can get a consistent OC chip to chip, but with Haswell you might get one that maxes out at 4.3ghz or less. IB is mainly a matter of cooling to achieve the best overclock.
 
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In my last build i had the 3570k and loved it. The fact i really like about haswell, is its newer tech which would also means it should last longer, along with the new z87 boards that came with haswel are indredible... though i have read alot about how the IB can OC alot higher on average with alot less heat also... If someone can give me strong enough points as to why IB is still better then haswell and wont be outdated in such in a year or 2 i would seriously consider it.
 
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Well, Sandy Bridge isn't outdated even with Haswell out, and that was the generation previous to IB, so that's a good point. At stock speeds, Haswell does out-perform IB. It doesn't beat it by much though, and with overclocking in the mix, IB is still the safer bet. Haswell motherboards are more expensive too on average.
 
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Yeah that make sense, its a good deal!
 
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I and my friend have the Asus P8Z77-LK motherboard I listed in the build, and he has his 3570k water-cooled and OC'ed to 4.7ghz stable, so the board itself will handle the OC just fine. Really, past a certain point the difference in OC's between boards is only noticeable at the extreme high end.

If you are ok budget wise, I'd still get the 3770k. It be faster for your CAD work, and there are some games that do take advantage of the hyperthreading capabilities. I'd expect this to increase in the future actually. Crysis 3 is one such game that plays better on an I7 than an I5. Of course, the decision is yours and either one is a great choice.
 
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