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I sold my gaming computer about 6 months ago and bought a laptop. "I'm gonna game less and focus more on school!" well, half the time I don't even bring it to school and found taking notes on paper is much easier/better for learning. Also, I'm sick of windows 8.

My old computer had a 560ti gpu and i5 2500k cpu, running it.

I want a desktop back, and I'm selling this laptop on craigs.

My question to you fine folks is this:

What would it take to build it? How much would it be to run it for the games I want to play. I don't need 100 fps, maybe 35+ FPS on average/above average settings.

Games like league of legends, dota2, gta5, skyrim, final fantasy 13, and others.

I'm okay with using ubuntu (never used it) but to save cost I could? idk.

Also, I'm sick of having stuttering while scrolling through web pages!!! i'll scroll down on a webpage on this "sleekbook" of mine and sometimes i have to wait 4 seconds for the page to move, and it does it in slow motion!

Can someone please help me??
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  1. For a fairly high-end gaming machine, ~$1000 is a pretty good budget to have though you definitely can reduce that if you sacrifice some bells and whistles.

    Linux (Ubuntu is a Linux Distribution) for gaming is becoming bigger, but until game developers move away from DirectX to OpenGL you will find that Windows will remain the dominant gaming OS.
  2. My build cost me about $300 doing an upgrade of an old 10 year old PC. I replaced the motherboard, ram, cpu, and psu. If you're starting from scratch it will cost you about $500. I game at 1280x1024. When I installed Skyrim for the first time it put it on the "high" preset automatically. After some fiddling around I dropped the AA down from 4x to 2x and put the shadow quality and lighting higher and put the water quality on max. Runs aroun 30fps. Haven't gotten any lag at all.

    I have in my PC a MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 motherboard. An AMD A10-5800k APU (cpu + gpu), 430watt psu, and 8gb Corsair Vengence 1600mhz ram. Having faster ram will have an impact on the performance of the video. If i went with 1866mhz I might have been able to get 5 or 10 fps extra on Skyrim.
  3. Thank you for your responses! I hope it's not a social faux pas to post links here, but I found some stuff I'd like to share, ask opinions on:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1398698

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1322763

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1271121

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1271124

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1443581

    Some of the above would need a GPU and I think that's it.

    What do you guys think? The last link looks promising! yeah?

    Also here is some from local craigs:

    http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/sys/4088637266.html

    http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/sys/4087468798.html (would i be able to save money buying this then adding?)

    http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/sys/4078819764.html (same for this?)
  4. What kind of budget do you have for the rig, I'm guessing about $600 all up?

    The first Craiglist link is pretty good, throw a new graphics card (say around $300) at it and you would have yourself a respectable gaming rig. The other two are too old to bother upgrading, you would have to replace the whole thing to make any meaningful upgrade.
  5. Shawn Dunmire said:
    Thank you for your responses! I hope it's not a social faux pas to post links here, but I found some stuff I'd like to share, ask opinions on:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1398698

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1322763

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1271121

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1271124

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1443581

    Some of the above would need a GPU and I think that's it.

    What do you guys think? The last link looks promising! yeah?

    Also here is some from local craigs:

    http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/sys/4088637266.html

    http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/sys/4087468798.html (would i be able to save money buying this then adding?)

    http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/sys/4078819764.html (same for this?)


    It's not a faux pas, but Newegg bundles are almost never efficient. You get more bang for your buck by selecting the right combination of short-term deals than you do from a big bundle.

    The first of those used PCs isn't too terrible, but you can get a lot for $550 these days, and it has outdated hardware.

    The important question to ask is how much you have to invest. $700 gets you a pretty solid gaming rig at current, and you can make a viable gaming system for as little as $400 in a pinch.

    I would, however, recommend waiting a short bit. AMD is releasing a new GPU series quite soon, and it will almost certainly drive down the prices of nVIDIA's cards, and potentially AMD's older cards (though those recently received drastic price cuts, so they may be as low as they'll get).
  6. Yeah I can sell the laptop for 400, would need to spend 100 on a monitor, which would bring me to 300 profit, and I have 300 exactly myself to put in.

    So 600 firm is all I got for this bad boy :p

    Any of those newegg links worth while? should I try just building my own set? Post it here?
  7. $600 is then going to be reduced by $100 for a copy of Windows, and a decent screen is going to cost more like $150.

    I suggest waiting and saving some more cash, especially if you want the level of gaming you had on your old desktop. $500 is the pricepoint where I would say your better off buying a next-gen console rather than build a gaming PC right now.

    If your had to get a desktop, this is what I would go with. Main emphasis is on upgradability, hence the weak GPU in it right now. Replace that card with something a bit beefier down the line and you will have yourself a very nice gaming rig.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($66.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($73.99 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($83.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $582.89
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-25 03:42 EDT-0400)
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    Shawn Dunmire said:
    Yeah I can sell the laptop for 400, would need to spend 100 on a monitor, which would bring me to 300 profit, and I have 300 exactly myself to put in.

    So 600 firm is all I got for this bad boy :p

    Any of those newegg links worth while? should I try just building my own set? Post it here?


    With that much to spend, you are replete with options! I would suggest either this $600 Linux build (saving $90 means a lot at this price range)

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($203.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $604.91
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-25 03:43 EDT-0400)

    Or, if the games you want to play aren't on Linux, this Win7 build:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($30.83 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Zalman Z12 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $608.73
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-25 03:47 EDT-0400)
  9. Thank you guys!!
  10. Shawn Dunmire said:
    Thank you guys!!


    Our pleasure!

    If you have anything changes, issues arise, or you have any further questions, feel free to PM me.

    Good luck and happy gaming!

    Edit: I must be asleep on my feet at the moment! AMD has just released official announcements regarding their R-200 series, and it looks pretty great. You might seriously consider waiting on those for your GPU, as it appears that there will be some great mid-range offerings.
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