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1500 - 2000€ Allrounder Build with Monitor Advice needed

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September 26, 2013 6:38:28 AM

Greetings and thanks for taking the time to help me finding a good PC build.

Approximate Purchase Date: In the next 5 days.

Budget Range: 1500 - 2000€

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (looking forward to Battlefield 4), Watching movies and TV shows, Working (I'm studying Computer Science).

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, but I can't decide between:
- a 27" - 30" monitor
- 3 24" monitors
- or something with 120 hz
I don't know which would fit in my budget while also not overpowering my PC.

Parts to Upgrade: None.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes a Windows 8 copy.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: hardwareversand.de, conrad.de or really any website in Germany in that list:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1643019/guide-in...

Location: Berlin, Germany

Preferences: AMD since there will be special support for Battlefield 4 (a Directx substitute called Mantle)

Overclocking: Maybe, I never looked into it but I wouldn't mind if needed.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe.

Additional Comments:
I would like to be able to play Battlefield 4 and other games without worrying to much about fps, or maybe even with 120 fps (if somehow possible).
I would also like to be able to enjoy movies and TV shows on it.

I much appreciate your help and greetings from Germany!
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September 26, 2013 7:14:45 AM

I Hope this works: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/1HO83 I have dealt with amazon.de in the past. Have a friend in the Munich area. Unintentionally made her mad one night and she broke her headset. Felt bad about it, so went over there and purchased another for her as I felt bad about it. Also got her a cooler as it was on her wish list and I knew it would be sometime if ever that she would get it. Added a Monitor that should do well. It is full HD and IPS.
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September 26, 2013 8:31:02 AM

CPU - AMD FX-8350 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ - [175,12 €]
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-D14 - [77,30 €]
Motherboard - ASRock 990FX Extreme9 - [180,92 €]
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 WindForce - [321,29 €]
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 WindForce - [321,29 €]
Case - Thermaltake Chaser MK-I - [121,40 €]
SSD - Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB - [89,99 €]
HDD - WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s - [134,53 €]
Ram - 16GB-Kit Kingston HyperX blu. black - [120,64 €]
PSU - Seasonic P-860, 860 Watt, 80PLUS Platinum - [191,57 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]

Total 1962 €
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September 26, 2013 9:15:54 AM

Thanks for the suggestions, but isn't a better monitor possible? Something like a 1440p (27") monitor or a 24" monitor with 120 hz would be nice. Or is this simply unrealistic at that budget?
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September 26, 2013 9:30:18 AM

Tilaukon said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but isn't a better monitor possible? Something like a 1440p (27") monitor or a 24" monitor with 120 hz would be nice. Or is this simply unrealistic at that budget?


Yes we can add another 27" monitor, this is perfectly balanced PC also with this CPU cooler Noctua you can get 5.0Ghz don't worry overclocking FX 8350 couldn't be easier.


CPU - AMD FX-8350 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ - [175,12 €]
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-D14 - [77,30 €]
Motherboard - ASRock 990FX Extreme9 - [180,92 €]
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 WindForce - [321,29 €]
Case - Thermaltake Chaser MK-I - [121,40 €]
SSD - Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB - [89,99 €]
HDD - WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s - [134,53 €]
Ram - 16GB-Kit Kingston HyperX blu. black - [120,64 €]
PSU - Seasonic P-860, 860 Watt, 80PLUS Platinum - [191,57 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]
OS Win8 - Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit - [126,84€]

Total: 1997€
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September 26, 2013 9:45:16 AM

They only want one monitor and I just added a 120Mhz alternative. There were only three at 120Mhz and all at 1920x1080.
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September 26, 2013 10:05:33 AM

I heard that 27" monitors look bad with 1080p, can anyone confirm this? And is it possibly to include a 3 TB HDD?
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September 26, 2013 10:23:08 AM

Tilaukon said:
I heard that 27" monitors look bad with 1080p, can anyone confirm this? And is it possibly to include a 3 TB HDD?


Anything is possible but if we add 3 TB HDD instad of that 2 TB it's gonna be slower, also yeah some of 27" monitors look bad with 1080p but I'm sure that BenQ model is looking good, still we can swap them for two 22" 1080p monitors.
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September 26, 2013 11:04:41 AM

Tilaukon said:
I heard that 27" monitors look bad with 1080p, can anyone confirm this? And is it possibly to include a 3 TB HDD?


Not tyo my Knowledge. I know some using a 26" Monitor at 1080P or Higher res and they have no complaints. As for 120 Mhz, don't really need it unless you plan to go 3D. With the GTX 6820 Card, it wil do quite well on it's own without going sli ( I am running one in this build ).
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September 26, 2013 11:45:53 AM

1s3ct0wN said:
Tilaukon said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but isn't a better monitor possible? Something like a 1440p (27") monitor or a 24" monitor with 120 hz would be nice. Or is this simply unrealistic at that budget?


Yes we can add another 27" monitor, this is perfectly balanced PC also with this CPU cooler Noctua you can get 5.0Ghz don't worry overclocking FX 8350 couldn't be easier.


CPU - AMD FX-8350 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ - [175,12 €]
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-D14 - [77,30 €]
Motherboard - ASRock 990FX Extreme9 - [180,92 €]
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 WindForce - [321,29 €]
Case - Thermaltake Chaser MK-I - [121,40 €]
SSD - Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB - [89,99 €]
HDD - WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s - [134,53 €]
Ram - 16GB-Kit Kingston HyperX blu. black - [120,64 €]
PSU - Seasonic P-860, 860 Watt, 80PLUS Platinum - [191,57 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]
OS Win8 - Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit - [126,84€]

Total: 1997€

If I take this build, but use this monitor http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2720t instead of the two above, do you think I would be able to get well over 60 fps in games like Battlefield 4?


@coastie65: I want an AMD GPU so I can take advantage of their partnership with Battlefield 4.
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September 26, 2013 12:06:41 PM

Hi. There are so many factors involved in how many FPS you may get, that it would be hard to say. The thing is, you have the hardware to run it at optimum.
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September 26, 2013 5:07:39 PM

Tilaukon said:
1s3ct0wN said:
Tilaukon said:
Thanks for the suggestions, but isn't a better monitor possible? Something like a 1440p (27") monitor or a 24" monitor with 120 hz would be nice. Or is this simply unrealistic at that budget?


Yes we can add another 27" monitor, this is perfectly balanced PC also with this CPU cooler Noctua you can get 5.0Ghz don't worry overclocking FX 8350 couldn't be easier.


CPU - AMD FX-8350 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+ - [175,12 €]
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-D14 - [77,30 €]
Motherboard - ASRock 990FX Extreme9 - [180,92 €]
GPU - Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 WindForce - [321,29 €]
Case - Thermaltake Chaser MK-I - [121,40 €]
SSD - Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB - [89,99 €]
HDD - WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s - [134,53 €]
Ram - 16GB-Kit Kingston HyperX blu. black - [120,64 €]
PSU - Seasonic P-860, 860 Watt, 80PLUS Platinum - [191,57 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]
Monitor - BenQ GW2760HM - [229,00 €]
OS Win8 - Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit - [126,84€]

Total: 1997€

If I take this build, but use this monitor http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2720t instead of the two above, do you think I would be able to get well over 60 fps in games like Battlefield 4?


@coastie65: I want an AMD GPU so I can take advantage of their partnership with Battlefield 4.


That configuration will be able to hit 60fps in games like Battlefield 4, keep in my that you will need to adjust the color/brightness on that BenQ 120MHz model, it's gonna take you some time but noting to worry about, don't forget to select best answer and OC the CPU you have great OCing MB and Cooler.
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September 26, 2013 10:29:33 PM

I did some research and it seems like the BenQ XL2720T is a good choice (especially with LightBoost).
But since I really don't know much about this stuff I would really appreciate a second opinion on the rest of the build (just to make sure).
Thank you.
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September 27, 2013 5:16:22 AM

It looks good. Went I did my list, I went with the 6350 for cost purposes which allowed for a higher capacity SSD. ASRock is a good Motherboard, and That was my fiorst thought, but not overly familiar with the AMD socketed stuff as I generall use Intel. Anyway, it looks pretty solid and should be a good one.
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September 27, 2013 9:36:30 AM

Thank you very much for your help!
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September 27, 2013 9:48:17 AM

When you assemble the PC, post some pics and tell us how is BF3, BF4 performing :) 
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September 28, 2013 11:42:38 AM

I will, but unfortunately I have additional questions to ask. Is there a good substitute for the tower (since the Thermaltake Chaser MK-I is currently unavailable)? And can you recommend me an optical drive since I need one to install the OS?
Also would be the soon coming AMD Radeon R9 290X (http://videocardz.com/46115/amd-radeon-r9-290x-cost-sim...) together with the cheaper Asus VG248QE monitor a good alteration of the build?
Thank you once again for helping me.
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September 28, 2013 11:36:33 PM

If you are not in hurry waiting for Radeon R9 290X is good idea, I'm pretty confident with this budged we'll be able to fit the R9 290X. Take the optical Drive from old PC until you install the OS or buy cheap optical drive since you won't use it much there is no point to buy expansive one.
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September 29, 2013 2:30:11 AM

1s3ct0wN said:
If you are not in hurry waiting for Radeon R9 290X is good idea, I'm pretty confident with this budged we'll be able to fit the R9 290X. Take the optical Drive from old PC until you install the OS or buy cheap optical drive since you won't use it much there is no point to buy expansive one.


Can you recommend me a drive?
And what about the tower (it is much more expansive in other shops then hardwareversand.de)?
Also are there other alterations on this build possible that make it a little less expensive with the same quality (maybe the price of some stuff will drop until the R9 comes out or something like that)?
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