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ddbtkd456

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I will be parting out my custom water cooling and I have the NZXT Switch 810 with the following specs:

Front, 2 X 120/140mm (1x 140mm included)
Rear, 1 X 120/140mm (1x 140mm included)
Top, 3 X 120/140mm (1x 140mm included)
Bottom, 2x 120/140mm
Interior, 2x 120/140mm (1x 140mm included)

Looks like this (forgive my crude drawing):

ca-sw810-g1_-_nzxt_switch_810_gunmetal_special_side.jpg


Note:

Red is where what i want moved, so i can get a rad in there.
Blue: Is where I want the new Radiators.

I want the following radiators compared to the top specs:
Rear: 140 Radiator (Push/Pull Config.)
Top: 3x140 (420 mm) (Push/Pull Config) (3 x 140 mm fans on top, 2 x 140 mm fan on the bottom)
Bottom: 280 mm Radiator (With moved hard drive bays)

Also I would like to get a all in one 5.25 pump/reservoir, is this recommended or not? I was thinking something along the lines of: http://tinyurl.com/m53zscx


I need something that is hidden since i have multiple hard drives to mount.

Finally my last question is,

Is there a way i can mount my hard drives somewhere else? I have 5 hard drives as of right now i can get rid of two. But the others ones (2 SSDs, 2 Terabyte)

Thanks and sorry for such the hassle.

Also I will be cooling the following with water blocks:
Preferably Hard Drives (I can remove one section of the hard drive cages and cool the top one)
RAM
GPU
CPU
Voltage
North/South Bridge

Are there any recommendations on these to not do them?
 
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JackNaylorPE

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Top Rad - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Triple 140mm Radiator 468 x144 x 60mm (GPU Watts = 315 / Radiator Watts at 10C, 1200 rpm = 246) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16826/ex-rad-427/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Triple_140mm_Radiator.html

Bottom Rad - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Double 140mm Radiator 324 x 144 x 60mm (CPU Watts = 145 / Radiator Watts at 10C, 1200 rpm = 164) http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16825/ex-rad-426/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Dual_140mm_Radiator.html

Rear Rad - Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper Single 140mm Radiator
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16824/ex-rad-425/Alphacool_NexXxoS_UT60_Full_Copper_Single_140mm_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s929

I'd only remove the bottom HD cage sine the Rad will fit w/ just the lower one removed. You can fit 3 HDs in the upper cage.

Bay Reservoir - Alphacool Repack Dual 5.25" Acrylic Reservoir - Clear - Quad DDC / MCP35x (15040) w/
Swiftech MCP35X 12v PWM Controlled Water Pump - White
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16585/ex-res-382/Alphacool_Repack_Dual_525_Acrylic_Reservoir_-_Clear_-_Quad_DDC_MCP35x_15040.html?tl=g30c97s152
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14568/ex-pmp-171/Swiftech_MCP35X_12v_PWM_Controlled_Water_Pump_-_White.html

As far as fit, you didn't list your case dimensions .... but your intended push pull config w/ be 110mm thick (assuming 25mm fans w/o shrouds). Looking at a case review on the 810, you only have 90mm of room ....so that would mean a 30mm rad w/ 2 fans or a 60mm Rad w/ 1 fan..... I'd go w/ the 60mmm option ...... if fans speed is below 1600, martinsliquid lab recommends pull ..... over 1600 push

Also be aware that the rear rad may interfere w/ you top GFX card slot depending on what MoBo you have.

 
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I assume you have read the sticky?
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277130-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky

Any reason you want to remove both HDD cages? To my knowledge with the Switch 810 you can remove either one independent of the other, you might as well keep the top one unless you plan to put a rad in vertically in the front.
You could mount the drives behind the mobo tray, on top of the PSU or even in some DIY setup where the old cages were. As far as I was aware the 810 already has some SSD mounts behind the mobo, though may be wrong. If you keep the top cage, no doubt you could drill holes in the bottom of it to mount another drive.

Dont bother HDD water-cooling, even with the worst case airflow a HDD wont overheat. Water-cooling the mobo VRM's and Bridges, only do this if you intend on overclocking a fair deal, otherwise its not worth it unless your doing it for aesthetics reasons.

I suggest avoiding 5.25" mounted pumps, their near impossible to decouple and hence you will get a lot of vibration induced noise. I suggest an internal pump and the reservoir you can mount in the 5.25" bay if you wanted too.
 
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As far as dimensions go, on top I do have enough room (90 mm) worth of space and more then enough on the exhaust and the floor of the case for radiators. Even at a double sided fans (25 mm x 2 = 50 mm), so that leaves 40 mm of space for the radiator itself.
 
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I realized that i could keep the top Hard drive cage about half way through writing this, is there a way i could mount the pump on top of the power supply (since the fan is faced down in my case), and just use some double sided tape on it? Then like you said run a tube up to the reservoir and then out? How strong of pump do you guys think I need for all this? Also the SSD mounts are built within the 3.5 inch hard drive cages, they are screwed in and sit in the same place that the 3.5, there is no support of them behind the motherboard, the cages sit in there faced the right side panel, and you can only access the hard drives from the right site. Also i do appreciate suggestions for the radiators, but i think I already have them picked out this is more of a layout question then anything else.
 
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I'm not seeing it:

60mm Radiator + 25mm Fan in pull + 25mm Fan on push = 110 mm > 90mm
45mm Radiator + 25mm Fan in pull + 25mm Fan on push = 95 mm > 90mm

You could use a 31mm Radiator with push pull, but Im thinking a 60mm Rad with one fan will easily outperform a 30mm Rad with 2

I also agree with Man of Chalk .... in that pump / bay reservoirs add noise, make installation and maintenance a bit harder and also run the risk of seam failure. The Linus tech tips video make mention of his experience in this regard.

Unfortunately the 810 is a little tight on space .... The area at the rear of the case is a typical mounting slot for cylindrical reservoirs but I can't see the depth available in your picture and if it will allow for a res / pump combo while clearing GFX cards. The alternate location of behind the 5.25" bays also looks tight but might be able to get ya reservoir there and pump in the bottom bays.....or use the bay reservoir and then hang the pump below the HD cage or behind the HD / 5.25" bays.
 
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Alright, i have a Kraken x60 (don't know how big that radiator is, and a push pull with 25 mm fans on it on both sides, and that about fits perfectly, according to newegg there is 90 mm of space in the top of that case, radiator and bottom fans below, top fans in a bay above the radiator.
 
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I can go really think on the rear exhaust and the bottom radiator, however since i have the whole width of the bottom cage and the rear exhaust is offset from the motherboard (so I can go pretty far out with it), but the top I am stuck with <40 mm worth of space with both side fans being 25 mm fans on them.
 
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That's where I was going..... the next size down is 30mm and one fan w/ 60mm Rad is better than 2 fans on a 30mm Rad. OTOH, if they fit, the preinstalled top fans can be moved up to the top bay, then the 60mm Rad and 25 mm fan (85mm) would fit below.

 
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I once had an issue where the part of the rear mounted Rad where the hoses connected was hitting the top GFX card.....I could fit it in but there was metal to metal contact between the rad and the back of the cards PCB.

 
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The top radiator fans are in the top bay as of now, and i don't think i can get that size of radiator in there without hitting my ram, i will measure it and get back to you on that though, but i think i am going to have to go with the following:

30 mm wide radiator on the top (420 mm radiator)
60 mm wide radiator on the exhaust (140 mm)
60 mm wide radiator on the bottom (280 mm radiator)
 
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You could mount the pump on top of the PSU, no reason you couldn't unless you have a card in the way. I would try orienting it closer to the front of the case, but thats just me.

How strong a pump will depend on how many blocks you go for. CPU and a GPU, single pump will be fine, CPU and two GPU's your actually better due to properties of parallel systems, but add those HDD and VRM blocks you will need two pumps.

Radiators, I use the XSPC rads as that's what came with my starting kit :lol:
If your looking for slim rads (like that rear 120/140mm) I recommend the EX series.

Aldo dont be too concerned about getting the thickest rads in there, for what your cooling I reckon you could get a slim 360mm and a thick 240/280mm, and cool what you want to cool just fine.
 
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Thanks for the reply i think i understand what you are getting me to...I think i will try to run 1 complete system with 2 pumps, I do have quite a bit of room in there since and i could always mount one pump upside down on the top hard drive cage and the other in between the rad and the psu or one between the psu and the radiator on the floor and another right on top of the psu (I wont be cross-firing, I've kind of afraid of the micro-shutter effect), Just be running the south/north bridges, voltage, RAM, CPU, GPU (Single), and the 3 radiators.

Stress test result current with Kraken x60 (6 Extra fans at 60% RPM, 4 on radiator at 100% RPM):

I ran a stress test using prime 95 for 8 hours the first time, and my results for temperatures were the following:

1st Test:
After 8 hours (the hottest it got):
CPU Temperature: 93 degrees F (34 degrees C)
GPU Temperature: 97 degrees (Roughly 36 degrees C)
Backside of CPU (hotter part): 95 degrees (35 degrees C)
Case Temp: 84 degrees F (Almost 29 degrees C)

2nd Test:
After 8 hours (the hottest it got):
CPU Temperature: 92 degrees F (33.3 degrees C)
GPU Temperature: 97 degrees (Roughly 37.8 degrees C)
Backside of CPU (hotter part): 95 degrees (35 degrees C)
Case Temp: 82 degrees F (Almost 27.7 degrees C)

The 1st test was the small FFTS
The 2nd test was the large FFTS

Also I know this is kind of off topic, but how come when it was maxed out completely all that time (8-cores @ 100%) RAM (16 GB @ 100%) it still acted hungry (what i mean is it wanted more stuff thrown at it like it really wasn't weighed down).
 
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What speed fans ya using ? ..... If hi rpm (2000) , on the top rad, I think you woulud get better test results with a 60mm Rad and 1 fan than a 30mm w/ two fans ....2nd fan is good for only about 2.5 C extra..... if using 600 rpm .... i think the 30mm rad will be better. The crossover or "equal" point will be somewhere in the middle....prolly around 1250....2000 rpm work better in push ....1200 in pull


http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/05/01/alphacool-nexxxos-st30-360-radiator/4/
http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

 
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