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September 28, 2013 10:28:49 AM

Starting from basics-
I m planning new rig
AMD FX-6300
GIGABYTE 970A- DS3
Corsair 1X4gb
1TB HDD

Now earlier i decided to get HD 7750 1GB DDR5 but i read somewhere or been through random youtube video that it will not support fullHD(1920x1080p) gaming. What i m thinking is it costs around $112 in my country and i can extend budget to $140 then i should go for a card that can give me fHD support.
So above it is 7770 1GB DDR5, will it deliver what i want and suggest if any better in $140 budget.
I will never do software related work (like Photoshop, 3D model etc), only be doing gaming.
Gta4 and 5, Crysis, Call of duty, Battlefield etc
All in all it can be summarised what best can i get for gaming in this budget?

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September 28, 2013 10:47:14 AM

I know "more powerful the better" but what i want to know is will 7770 give 1920x1080p support specially for games i wrote??
and is it wise to use Nvidia gpu with AMD proc nd mobo, won't AMD's card would be better??? aren't there any compatibility issues??
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September 28, 2013 10:51:19 AM

I'd say get a HD7790 you need 20-30 more bucks from HD7770 and that's exactly as much as you could extend for your budget right? Dunno what you mean about full HD support but HD7750 certainly can do 1080p. But if you mean it couldn't handle 1080p at high settings you are right, you might need to audjust the visual settings a little. Also, 1600x900 just will do you good with med to high settings if you're going to get HD7750 or HD7770. Might be an off topic but i suggest you get a dual channel ram (2x2GB) kit instead of 1 single stick unless you could get an 2x4GB dual channel kit
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September 28, 2013 10:55:26 AM

You can go for Sapphire HD 7770 2Gb GDDR5 Non-OC i'm using it and it runs BF3 on Ultra(without AA @720p) or if you can get a good deal on the HD 7790 then grab it.
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September 28, 2013 11:11:24 AM

Mordz said:
I'd say get a HD7790 you need 20-30 more bucks from HD7770 and that's exactly as much as you could extend for your budget right? Dunno what you mean about full HD support but HD7750 certainly can do 1080p. But if you mean it couldn't handle 1080p at high settings you are right, you might need to audjust the visual settings a little. Also, 1600x900 just will do you good with med to high settings if you're going to get HD7750 or HD7770. Might be an off topic but i suggest you get a dual channel ram (2x2GB) kit instead of 1 single stick unless you could get an 2x4GB dual channel kit


Yes what i meant was High setting. Can 7790 handle it with 1080p and more? For sure i will soon buy one more 1X4GB to make it 2X4GB.
Is there anything between 7770 and 7790 in terms of cost and performance?
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a c 1430 U Graphics card
September 28, 2013 11:17:59 AM

1080P is all relative to what in gaming settings are used. Nvidia and AMD cards work equally well in any board AMD or Intel absolutely no compatibility issue.
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September 28, 2013 11:19:09 AM

vishu_ka said:
Mordz said:
I'd say get a HD7790 you need 20-30 more bucks from HD7770 and that's exactly as much as you could extend for your budget right? Dunno what you mean about full HD support but HD7750 certainly can do 1080p. But if you mean it couldn't handle 1080p at high settings you are right, you might need to audjust the visual settings a little. Also, 1600x900 just will do you good with med to high settings if you're going to get HD7750 or HD7770. Might be an off topic but i suggest you get a dual channel ram (2x2GB) kit instead of 1 single stick unless you could get an 2x4GB dual channel kit


Yes what i meant was High setting. Can 7790 handle it with 1080p and more? For sure i will soon buy one more 1X4GB to make it 2X4GB.
Is there anything between 7770 and 7790 in terms of cost and performance?


My guess that it can, may perform equally with HD7770 at 1600x900 with the same settings. But still don't expect the highest settings. Cost and performance? Take a look at this
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD...
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD...
According to passmark, HD7790 have a better value (performance/price) so you're good to go
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a c 105 U Graphics card
September 28, 2013 11:26:40 AM

i suggest you save more money. if your intention is to play crysis3, gta 5, and bf4 at 1080p nothing in your budget range will manage that at anything less then low graphic settings.

Now as to the person who told you the 7750 isn't hd capable is smoking some good grass. The 7750 can game most games on medium or low settings at 1080p... generally that or the 650gtx are the lowest level gpus you can suggest for 1080p gaming at any level. The reason i said you might not manage those titles is because they're all brutal on the hardware, and while many of them are playable at 1080p and low graphic settings with the 7750, not all of them will be.

some advice. The advantage of grabbing an fx6300 over say a i3 or Pentium g630, is you can overclock it up to nearly their single core performance (or close enough that its a near wash)... the problem is your chosen motherboard isn't an overclocking motherboard. sure you can overclock a little with it... but not aggressively. i would suggest you look at an Asus M5A97 R2.0 or a Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3; both boards will support better overclocks. Second piece of advice, AMD cpus overclock better and are far more stable with 2 sticks of ram then they are with 1. If 8gbs doesn't fit into your budget then get 2 sticks of 2gb ram. don't get 1 stick of 4gb. Now as to your desire to play those games at 1080p, if you wish to game seriously on them with solid graphic goodness, you'll need something in the class of a hd7950... and even that won't be able to play them with a 60fps min on their highest settings at 1080p.

so we come back to my previous comment. save your money and do it right, because if you just want to get the machine today, and only have a little bit of cash i probably can build you something that will game better in those titles then what you're building. just let me know where you are and what your budget is and i might be able to get you something that could manage those titles on low...
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September 28, 2013 11:32:25 AM

Mordz said:
I'd say get a HD7790 you need 20-30 more bucks from HD7770 and that's exactly as much as you could extend for your budget right? Dunno what you mean about full HD support but HD7750 certainly can do 1080p. But if you mean it couldn't handle 1080p at high settings you are right, you might need to audjust the visual settings a little. Also, 1600x900 just will do you good with med to high settings if you're going to get HD7750 or HD7770. Might be an off topic but i suggest you get a dual channel ram (2x2GB) kit instead of 1 single stick unless you could get an 2x4GB dual channel kit


Mordz said:
vishu_ka said:
Mordz said:
I'd say get a HD7790 you need 20-30 more bucks from HD7770 and that's exactly as much as you could extend for your budget right? Dunno what you mean about full HD support but HD7750 certainly can do 1080p. But if you mean it couldn't handle 1080p at high settings you are right, you might need to audjust the visual settings a little. Also, 1600x900 just will do you good with med to high settings if you're going to get HD7750 or HD7770. Might be an off topic but i suggest you get a dual channel ram (2x2GB) kit instead of 1 single stick unless you could get an 2x4GB dual channel kit


Yes what i meant was High setting. Can 7790 handle it with 1080p and more? For sure i will soon buy one more 1X4GB to make it 2X4GB.
Is there anything between 7770 and 7790 in terms of cost and performance?


My guess that it can, may perform equally with HD7770 at 1600x900 with the same settings. But still don't expect the highest settings. Cost and performance? Take a look at this
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD...
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD...
According to passmark, HD7790 have a better value (performance/price) so you're good to go


Seriously speaking this is what confuses me, now if 7790 cant run games i mentioned at high settings then whats the use bcoz 7770 can also run them all at mid setting. Then i should go for 7770 and save some money!
And one more thing i noticed that GIGABYTE 970A- DS3 has PCIE2 slot but card is PCIE3 so what performance difference would it make or else i should invest more on mobo to get PCIE 3 slot???
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September 28, 2013 11:42:48 AM

vishu_ka said:

Seriously speaking this is what confuses me, now if 7790 cant run games i mentioned at high settings then whats the use bcoz 7770 can also run them all at mid setting. Then i should go for 7770 and save some money!
And one more thing i noticed that GIGABYTE 970A- DS3 has PCIE2 slot but card is PCIE3 so what performance difference would it make or else i should invest more on mobo to get PCIE 3 slot???

You're asking for 1080p and that's what you would make use HD7790 for. 7770 can only barely do that and is better running with 1600x900. It's not a random guess, your current specs is what my specs was, i once had 7770 with the exact same fx 6300 and 2x4GB ram, and i wouldn't dare to set the resolution to 1920x1080 because it's simply wouldn't perform really good. About the PCIE slot i think it wouldn't make any notable difference, even if it would, i haven't seen any AMD mobos with PCIe 3.0 even in 990FX chipsets
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September 28, 2013 11:45:12 AM

ingtar33 said:
i suggest you save more money. if your intention is to play crysis3, gta 5, and bf4 at 1080p nothing in your budget range will manage that at anything less then low graphic settings.

Now as to the person who told you the 7750 isn't hd capable is smoking some good grass. The 7750 can game most games on medium or low settings at 1080p... generally that or the 650gtx are the lowest level gpus you can suggest for 1080p gaming at any level. The reason i said you might not manage those titles is because they're all brutal on the hardware, and while many of them are playable at 1080p and low graphic settings with the 7750, not all of them will be.

some advice. The advantage of grabbing an fx6300 over say a i3 or Pentium g630, is you can overclock it up to nearly their single core performance (or close enough that its a near wash)... the problem is your chosen motherboard isn't an overclocking motherboard. sure you can overclock a little with it... but not aggressively. i would suggest you look at an Asus M5A97 R2.0 or a Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3; both boards will support better overclocks. Second piece of advice, AMD cpus overclock better and are far more stable with 2 sticks of ram then they are with 1. If 8gbs doesn't fit into your budget then get 2 sticks of 2gb ram. don't get 1 stick of 4gb. Now as to your desire to play those games at 1080p, if you wish to game seriously on them with solid graphic goodness, you'll need something in the class of a hd7950... and even that won't be able to play them with a 60fps min on their highest settings at 1080p.

so we come back to my previous comment. save your money and do it right, because if you just want to get the machine today, and only have a little bit of cash i probably can build you something that will game better in those titles then what you're building. just let me know where you are and what your budget is and i might be able to get you something that could manage those titles on low...


Thanx man for making it simple and your offer is generous too. But i live in INDIA (Delhi) so i guess u cant reach me.
I think you are right so i should better go for 7770 and play these games at med settings.
Now for mobo, i will not overclock at all. Still u will recommend changing mobo??? then whats difference between ASUS M5A97 LE R2.0 and ASUS M5A97 R2.0 (personally i also prefer ASUS)???
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a c 105 U Graphics card
September 28, 2013 12:06:52 PM

if you're not planning to overclock your chosen ga-970a-ds3 motherboard will work fine as will the asus m5a97 LE R2.0 as long as you have a little airflow in your case.

I have a 7770, i'm actually able to game most games im interested in on ultra graphic settings in 1080p at 40-60fps. of course i haven't tried crysis3 yet, mostly because i simply am assuming my system can't game it all that well. but the 7770 will game mass effect 3 on ultra graphic settings at a constant 60fps... and tombraider on high settings at 40fps.

that said... understand that the GTX 650ti BOOST, 7790 and 7850 are a significant jump in performance over it... so if you can get those cards into your budget you'll see a bigger a leap in performance over the 7770 then the 7770 is over the 7750.
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September 28, 2013 12:18:30 PM

ingtar33 said:
if you're not planning to overclock your chosen ga-970a-ds3 motherboard will work fine as will the asus m5a97 LE R2.0 as long as you have a little airflow in your case.

I have a 7770, i'm actually able to game most games im interested in on ultra graphic settings in 1080p at 40-60fps. of course i haven't tried crysis3 yet, mostly because i simply am assuming my system can't game it all that well. but the 7770 will game mass effect 3 on ultra graphic settings at a constant 60fps... and tombraider on high settings at 40fps.

that said... understand that the GTX 650ti BOOST, 7790 and 7850 are a significant jump in performance over it... so if you can get those cards into your budget you'll see a bigger a leap in performance over the 7770 then the 7770 is over the 7750.


Thanx a ton mate...
Now if possible do clear some of my all time doubts-
1) When going through comparison here http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Compare/Products?SearchFacet...
i found difference is PCIe and PCIe Gen 3.0, what does it mean?

2)GIGABYTE 970A- DS3 has PCIE2 slot but card is PCIE3 so what performance difference would it make or else i should invest more on mobo to get PCIE 3 slot???

3)For same price range of 7770 should i think of Nvidia gpu which can perform better. which one it would be??

4) Which company to opt- Sapphire, Asus, XFX etc??
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September 28, 2013 12:27:04 PM

pci-e 3.0 is a marketing gimmick (at the moment)

There isn't a gpu on the market that can max out pci-e 2.0 x16, and only some that will max out a pci-e 1.0 x16 slot. In short your pci-e 3.0 card will work perfectly fine an a pci-e 2.0 slot like what is on that gigabyte and you won't see any performance hit from it either.

about the only thing on the market which will take advantage of all the bandwidth in a pci-e 3.0 x16 slot is a PCI-E SSD drive.

now on to the nvidia question... here is a quick and dirty ranking of these modern cards, going from slowest to fastest. when the difference in speed is within 5% i rate them as equal.

Slowest -
HD 7730
GTX 650 / HD 7750
HD 7770
GTX 650ti / HD 7790
GTX 650ti BOOST / HD 7850
GTX 660
HD 7870
GTX 660ti
GTX 760 / HD 7950
GTX 670
GTX 680 / GTX 770 / HD 7970
GTX 780
Titan
GTX 690 / HD 7990
- Fastest
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September 29, 2013 9:34:30 AM

ingtar33 said:
pci-e 3.0 is a marketing gimmick (at the moment)

There isn't a gpu on the market that can max out pci-e 2.0 x16, and only some that will max out a pci-e 1.0 x16 slot. In short your pci-e 3.0 card will work perfectly fine an a pci-e 2.0 slot like what is on that gigabyte and you won't see any performance hit from it either.

about the only thing on the market which will take advantage of all the bandwidth in a pci-e 3.0 x16 slot is a PCI-E SSD drive.

now on to the nvidia question... here is a quick and dirty ranking of these modern cards, going from slowest to fastest. when the difference in speed is within 5% i rate them as equal.

Slowest -
HD 7730
GTX 650 / HD 7750
HD 7770
GTX 650ti / HD 7790
GTX 650ti BOOST / HD 7850
GTX 660
HD 7870
GTX 660ti
GTX 760 / HD 7950
GTX 670
GTX 680 / GTX 770 / HD 7970
GTX 780
Titan
GTX 690 / HD 7990
- Fastest


thnx for the dirty list.
hey i went through some research and found that to pair 6300 with ga-970a-ds3 i hve to update bios, kindly elucidate it and how to get it done?
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September 29, 2013 11:28:50 AM

Bro can you tell me your budget in rupees? (I am from India too )

I might be able to help :-)
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September 29, 2013 12:39:23 PM

acid1drinker said:
Bro can you tell me your budget in rupees? (I am from India too )

I might be able to help :-)


Bhai 8000-9000 Rs, kindly help me whatever u can.
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September 29, 2013 2:24:35 PM

vishu_ka said:
acid1drinker said:
Bro can you tell me your budget in rupees? (I am from India too )

I might be able to help :-)


Bhai 8000-9000 Rs, kindly help me whatever u can.


Tell the budget for the total rig please. I will be able to help more efficiently. Also tell which components you already have and which one you want to buy.

As far as the graphic card goes Try and get a 7790 for 9.5k from local market (usually XFX are cheap but they are not bad)
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a c 105 U Graphics card
September 29, 2013 5:17:12 PM

vishu_ka said:
thnx for the dirty list.
hey i went through some research and found that to pair 6300 with ga-970a-ds3 i hve to update bios, kindly elucidate it and how to get it done?


it should come from the factory able to use your fx 6300... piledriver wasn't so different from bulldozer that you can't use a piledriver cpu in a motherboard for a bulldozer cpu. that said, it might not work correctly out of the box. in which case download the newest bios from gigabyte, put it on a thumb drive, turn your new machine on, get into the bios and select update bios, specify the thumb drive as the location of the bios. it will do the rest of the work for you.
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September 29, 2013 10:37:30 PM

ingtar33 said:
vishu_ka said:
thnx for the dirty list.
hey i went through some research and found that to pair 6300 with ga-970a-ds3 i hve to update bios, kindly elucidate it and how to get it done?


it should come from the factory able to use your fx 6300... piledriver wasn't so different from bulldozer that you can't use a piledriver cpu in a motherboard for a bulldozer cpu. that said, it might not work correctly out of the box. in which case download the newest bios from gigabyte, put it on a thumb drive, turn your new machine on, get into the bios and select update bios, specify the thumb drive as the location of the bios. it will do the rest of the work for you.


Ok, i am not doing blandishment but thats why Tomshardware is best coz it is supported by experts like you. thnx 4 everything mate.
At last is there any possibility that with this config i can go with my old Intex 450w PSU?
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September 29, 2013 10:39:53 PM

acid1drinker said:
vishu_ka said:
acid1drinker said:
Bro can you tell me your budget in rupees? (I am from India too )

I might be able to help :-)


Bhai 8000-9000 Rs, kindly help me whatever u can.


Tell the budget for the total rig please. I will be able to help more efficiently. Also tell which components you already have and which one you want to buy.

As far as the graphic card goes Try and get a 7790 for 9.5k from local market (usually XFX are cheap but they are not bad)


Strictly for only these components Proc, mobo, hard disk, ram, gpu and psu budget is 30000rs.
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a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2013 10:45:32 PM

hd 7750 or 7770 cannot support 1080 full hd gaming...spend extra 80 bucks for 7850oc 1gb
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September 30, 2013 2:28:55 PM

potpolima said:
hd 7750 or 7770 cannot support 1080 full hd gaming...spend extra 80 bucks for 7850oc 1gb



funny... i game 60fps in 1080 on my 7770 just fine. how about you own one, or even try one before you comment.
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October 1, 2013 5:44:23 AM

ingtar33 said:
potpolima said:
hd 7750 or 7770 cannot support 1080 full hd gaming...spend extra 80 bucks for 7850oc 1gb



funny... i game 60fps in 1080 on my 7770 just fine. how about you own one, or even try one before you comment.


Ok, i am not doing blandishment but thats why Tomshardware is best coz it is supported by experts like you. thnx 4 everything mate.
At last is there any possibility that with this config i can go with my old Intex 450w PSU?
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a c 105 U Graphics card
October 1, 2013 10:12:55 AM

i would suggest you get a new psu. that one... is long in the tooth.
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