Before I finalize and start buying, is this gaming rig good for high end gaming?

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Please let me know before I start buying. Is this PC good for high end gaming? Thanks!

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CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($67.24 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.46 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $697.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-28 21:59 EDT-0400)
 
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I would personally use AMD over Intel, but that is just me. If you were to get the AMD FX-6350 CPU and then use that money plus a couple extra bucks to get an SSD, that would help a lot. You get an SSD and then you can run your OS and applications on it and then you can store your files on your HDD. I would also stay away from MSI, try an Asus, ASRock, or Gigabyte motherboard. Let me get back to AMD vs intel. According to cpubenchmark.net, AMD FX-6300 ($99) offers a higher performance for gaming than the i5-3350P and it is $80 cheaper. FX-6350 beats both of them and is $135.
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This sort of rig would allow you to play most games on ultra at roughly 25-35 frames per second . I would recommend look a toms hardware's $650 dollar gaming rig which is on the front page of thier website
 
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I would personally use AMD over Intel, but that is just me. If you were to get the AMD FX-6350 CPU and then use that money plus a couple extra bucks to get an SSD, that would help a lot. You get an SSD and then you can run your OS and applications on it and then you can store your files on your HDD. I would also stay away from MSI, try an Asus, ASRock, or Gigabyte motherboard. Let me get back to AMD vs intel. According to cpubenchmark.net, AMD FX-6300 ($99) offers a higher performance for gaming than the i5-3350P and it is $80 cheaper. FX-6350 beats both of them and is $135.
 
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Okay, so what I'm getting from this is to stick with AMD. Also, I don't really prefer that gaming build on the front page, a lot of people are complaining about it...

 
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I agree that he should go AMD. If you're going to spend less than $200 on your CPU, then go AMD. That's what I think is the general rule. AMD rules the budget market. The very slight base advantage in performance between the i5-3350p and the FX-6300 is made null by the FX-6300's overclocking potential. That's the other thing. Don't buy an FX-6350. The FX-6350 is merely an FX-6300 that's been overclocked slightly, but it's the exact same CPU. You can save yourself cash by just doing the overclocking yourself, and I don't know why you wouldn't overclock with anything in the FX series in the first place since they're built for overclocking. Other than that, everything looks in order. Perhaps you can buy an SSD as someone else recommended with the extra money.

And no, you won't get 25-35 fps on ultra in games. With that rig, you'll get 60 fps on ultra for most games. Just don't expect 60 fps from games like Crysis 3 or Battlefield 3, but you can certainly expect 60 fps from Battlefield 3 and Skyrim easily.
 
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An overclocked fx6300 does not compare with a 3350p in gaming. If there was anything to be said, I'd try and fit a Radeon 7970 into the budget, but that's probably pushing it too much. About 30 dollars more expensive.

Figure 120 for an fx6300, 30 dollars for the cooler, and 75ish for a motherboard.

Or, 170 for the 3350p, 68 for the motherboard and no cooler. Amd = 225 and Intel = 238. Close enough while the Intel scores higher in games.
 
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Actually no, according to cpubenchmark.net, the FX-6300 scores higher than the 3350p and is more affordable.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
And that is not including it being overclocked. In terms of overclocking, AMD FX-series CPUs are the best for it. I will go ahead and say to the person who started the thread, do not overclock with the stock CPU fan. Also the FX-6300 is $99 and the i5-3350P is $181. I'd rather save the $80 and have better performance than jump on the intel bandwagon.
 
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Don't exaggerate. You're right that the stock- i5-3350p beats the FX-6300, but the difference is very slight. The FX-6300, however, can at least overclock by 1.2 or 1.3 GHz quite easily, but the i5-3350p can't even come close to that kind of overclocking potential. At best it can only overclock by maybe 500 or 600 MHz.
 
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Some games will highly favor the 3350p however. If you *have* to overclock to match or beat the stock 3350p's performance, what's the point in adding a level of complexity if you don't have to?

Starcraft II, and TES: Skyrim are two games that will highly favor the Intel setup. Some games are close enough that it doesn't matter(but the Intel does beat the fx6300) so I'd go with the simpler set-up. I use http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-6.html as a good reference for performance between the two Cpu's, just have to remember that the 3350p is 200mhz slower than the 3550 not counting whatever the boost overclock is.
 
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I'd recommend the FX-6300 for a couple reasons.
1. It is cheaper, put the money you save into a GPU.
2. If you overclock it, it will have a similar performance as the i5-3350P.
3. More and more applications are making use of more than four cores. While there might not be many now, in a couple years there might be quite a few.

Your GPU is more important than the CPU because of graphics rendering. You should spend more on the GPU than the CPU if you want a good gaming PC. The people who are recommending i5-3500p are not taking this into account. In terms of gaming, the most important part is the GPU, followed by the CPU, and then the RAM. A SSD can also bolster performance if you want to run the OS and applications on it and store files on an HDD. The fact of the matter is you can do so much with the money you save with an FX-6300 that will offer greater gaming performance than spending $180 to $200 on an i5-3350P.
 
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There is a good deal on the fx6300 now for 100 dollars. I can see getting that Cpu if you pair it with a 7970 video card. Already in the build is the 3350p with a 760, so yes, he is spending more on the Gpu than the Cpu. Amd is great for budget builds, but with 700 dollars or so to spend and not needing an OS, it's a borderline call.

With the release of the next-gen consoles, it's entirely possible that new games will run better on Octa-core cpu's. Then the fx6300 would be a smart buy because you can toss in the next gen 8-core Cpu once it's released. Hard to say how all of that will pan out however, and right now the 3350p beats the fx6300 or ties it once the fx chip is overclocked.

With current sales, I'd either go with:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($70.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $720.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-29 12:41 EDT-0400)

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CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.07 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($283.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $729.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-09-29 12:44 EDT-0400)

I'd like to see benchmarks from the two systems actually. I'm not sure which would perform better overall, because I know some games that are more Cpu bound would perform better with Intel(WoW, TES: Skyrim, SC2) and ones that rely more heavily on the Gpu would favor the Amd build.
 
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