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How can I get both of these types of RAM to work together?

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September 28, 2013 8:04:02 PM

I plan on building my pc soon, how can I get these to work on my new pc as 16gb?

Heres the RAM I already have:
Amount: 8 GB (2 x 4)
Speed: PC3-10600
Type: DDR3-1333

Plan on buying:
Amount: 8 GB (2 x 4)
Speed: PC3-12800
Type: DDR3-1600

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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 8:09:39 PM

mixing ram is not recommended because they may not play nice together at all. But if they do play nice all you would need to do is set the ram speed to the 1333 MHz settings and the timings to which ever is highest for the 1333 MHz speed..

EDIT: you can use CPU-Z to find the proper timings.
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 8:12:19 PM

All your memory has to run at the same speeds with the same timings so for this to work, you would have to choose the slowest data rate and latency.

If you have 1600-11-11-11 and 1333-9-9-9, you might have to use something like 1333-10-10-10 to meet both DIMM sets' worst timing parameters.
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September 28, 2013 8:14:52 PM

bgunner said:
mixing ram is not recommended because they may not play nice together at all. But if they do play nice all you would need to do is set the ram speed to the 1333 MHz settings and the timings to which ever is highest for the 1333 MHz speed..


Is that fast though? or will it last for awhile at least? I could get another 8gb of the same type later on. Will it work well if I do that then?
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 8:18:25 PM

LukeMaBoy said:
Is that fast though? or will it last for awhile at least? I could get another 8gb of the same type later on. Will it work well if I do that then?

There isn't that much of a performance difference between 1333 and 1600. If it works, it works and there is no reason for it to mysteriously stop working or be significantly slower. In benchmarks, the difference between 1333 and 1600 is only 1-3% for games and applications. Only memory and IGP benchmarks show much bigger differences.
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September 28, 2013 8:18:31 PM

How would I change it to that setting? I'm not good with coding so could you tell me step by step?
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 8:23:43 PM

Most times yes it will work like you mentioned But keep this in mind though, When a company tests the ram modules they test them together. What this means is that the 2 ram sticks (as long as they are not DOA) will work together at their rated speed. now if you by 2 sets of the same kind and speed they are not tested to work together and could potentially not work together. Most times they do but it is not unheard of for them not to.

If you by the new set there is no guaranty that they will work together even if the speed and timings are set correctly. As for speed it will last you for the rest of the systems life. Yes the 1600 Mhz is faster but not a majorly big difference. If you went to higher speed and depending on what you were doing you may see a big jump in performance but for now you wont.
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 8:30:11 PM

LukeMaBoy said:
How would I change it to that setting? I'm not good with coding so could you tell me step by step?


This has nothing to do with coding. It is a BIOS (Basic Input Output System) setting. You will beable to change them as long as your system is not prebuilt. Prebuilt examples: Acer, E machines, HP, Dell, exc...

what motherboard do you have if it is not prebuilt?

to enter the bios it is usually while the machine is doing its POST (Power On Self Test) during the splash screen press Delete or F2. Most will except the Delete key. In side the bios is usually multiple tabs where you can change the basic settings for the motherboard. It will be up to you to find the settings as all Bios are different.
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 8:50:15 PM

Plus if this is for gaming then 8gig of ram is more than enough. So you could save some money and not get extra ram that you would not really need at all.
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 9:06:09 PM

bgunner said:
now if you by 2 sets of the same kind and speed they are not tested to work together and could potentially not work together. Most times they do but it is not unheard of for them not to.

For mainstream DIMMs at mainstream timings like 1600-10-10-10, just about anything will work with nearly anything else as long as you can boot to set the timings to slowest common denominator - that's what standards are for.

Where things get really hairy is when you go to enthusiast-type DIMMs with 2133-9-9-9 or faster timings that cut signal timing margins pretty thin and dual DIMMs per channel often just does not work even if you use all same-model, same-batch DIMMs. This is part of why DDR4 will only allow one DIMM per channel - signal integrity at over 3Gbps per pin doesn't have enough tolerance to reliably squeeze a second slot per channel in.
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September 28, 2013 9:46:58 PM

Alright so heres the specs for my upcoming gaming rig:

Case: NZXT Guardian 921 RB ATX Mid Tower Case

PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt

Motherboard: ASRock MB-970EX4

CPU: AMD FX-6300

GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 1TB

RAM: Team Vulcan 8GB

The reason I will want 16 GB ram is because I plan on rendering youtube videos sometime in the future, and I run programs like AutoCAD on my PC. Also I run a minecraft server so I want to have a lot more RAM dedicated to it, and I'm not going to lie to you guys bragging rights is in there along with those. And right now this ram is dirt cheap on newegg.
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a c 2200 } Memory
September 28, 2013 10:28:39 PM

What actual sets of DRAM do you have and are looking at, the model #s, might be able to give you a better idea based on that, just talking generics won't really go anywhere
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September 28, 2013 10:33:11 PM

Tradesman1 said:
What actual sets of DRAM do you have and are looking at, the model #s, might be able to give you a better idea based on that, just talking generics won't really go anywhere


I'm getting the Team Vulcan 8gb RAM model TLYD38G1600HC9DC01. The RAM I have is some I got from my HP desktop. Those are the specs for it thats all that came with it. I don't have the name of it right now because I'm out of town.
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a b } Memory
September 28, 2013 10:35:42 PM

LukeMaBoy said:
and I'm not going to lie to you guys bragging rights is in there along with those. And right now this ram is dirt cheap on newegg.

Not quite as dirt-cheap as it was a year ago but close enough.

I paid around $400 for 256MB in my P3 ~13 years ago so when I built my new PC last year, I just went "what the heck, 32GB only costs $190, might as well max it out since I will probably wish I had 1-2 years from now anyway and it most likely won't ever be that cheap again."

When DDR4's turn through the bargain bin comes up in 3-4 years, we will probably see 32GB kits around $100.
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September 28, 2013 10:56:25 PM

$50 is still pretty good for RAM nowadays.
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a c 2200 } Memory
September 28, 2013 11:05:35 PM

That's a tough one, Hp uses a lo of different sets, I wouldn't count on them playing together well but can probly 'convince' them to. Let me know and will be happy to help, been doing this for a long time, can PM me if you want when you get ready
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September 29, 2013 7:14:00 AM

I could tell you the model later tonight but not right now.
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September 29, 2013 7:20:28 AM

Tradesman1 said:
That's a tough one, Hp uses a lo of different sets, I wouldn't count on them playing together well but can probly 'convince' them to. Let me know and will be happy to help, been doing this for a long time, can PM me if you want when you get ready


What does it exactly mean to not play well together? What the outcome?
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a c 2200 } Memory
September 29, 2013 7:50:38 AM

At times mixed set won't work together at all, other times if they don't want to work you can adjust timings and voltages (DRAM and MC) and 'help' them out to where they do work
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a b } Memory
September 29, 2013 3:44:12 PM

there is no way to tell till you put them in the machine.
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a c 2200 } Memory
September 29, 2013 5:46:46 PM

What CPU/mobo? If a decent Intel rig think chanes age good. These are Micron, 1600/11, might be able to get the 2 sets to work, might be able to get them to play, along with the Vulcans I'd start trying withnew sticks in slots 1-3, old in 2-4, then freq at 1600, 10-10-10-30, 1.6 2T and raise the MC voltage up + 0.07
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September 29, 2013 6:18:52 PM

Tradesman1 said:
What CPU/mobo? If a decent Intel rig think chanes age good. These are Micron, 1600/11, might be able to get the 2 sets to work, might be able to get them to play, along with the Vulcans I'd start trying withnew sticks in slots 1-3, old in 2-4, then freq at 1600, 10-10-10-30, 1.6 2T and raise the MC voltage up + 0.07


PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX 600 Watt

Motherboard: ASRock MB-970EX4

Its a pretty good CPU and motherboard. Its a loaded motherboard for the price. I'm just going to wing it and buy the ram. Won't use it till around late November when I build my pc.
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a c 2200 } Memory
September 29, 2013 6:26:20 PM

I'll be around (I hope ;)  ), if any problems, PM me
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October 15, 2013 3:40:46 PM

Okay guys, I have it and like it. I have decided not to even try to work the two types together and just wait till the RAM goes on sale again and get another pack. Should I do that or should I send it back and just wait for a more trusted 2x8 GB pack to go on sale? Does 4x4gb work better than 2x8? And I will be getting an after market CPU cooler too so Idk if I will have room for 4x4.
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