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September 30, 2013 3:15:27 PM

Hi everyone.

My desktop PC specs are:
GPU: Sapphire HD 7870 OC 2GB GDDR5 (down clocked to 1000 MHz core clock and 1200 MHz memory clock with MSI Afterburner)
CPU: FX-6100 (6 cores 3.3 GHz) (factory default not OC)
Motherboard: GA-78LMT-S2P
RAM: 10 GB DDR3 (8 GB DDR3 + 2 GB DDR3)
HDD: SAMSUNG HD103SJ ATA 1TB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

All the components previously mentioned are brand new.

I am getting mirco stuttering whereby the game seems to pause for a fraction of a second and then resume. This occurs regardless of graphics or resolution settings (whether low or ultra) in games like Assassin's Creed Revelations, Modern Warfare 3, Deus Ex HR and Arkham City. It does not occur in games like Crysis 3, Splinter Cell Blacklist and Dead Space 3.

Otherwise fps is at 60 and sometimes drops to 45. I am using a single GPU and do not have a crossfire or SLI set up. All the drivers are up to date. The same problem occured on another desktop PC I had which specs were: HD 5770 1GB GDDR5, Triple core CPU (3.2 GHz) can't remember the name, 4 GB DDR3 RAM, can't remember the make of the motherboard.

It seems to me that everytime the game needs to load something (textures or objects) from the HDD this stuttering occurs. For example, when I move the camera to look at somewhere else or make the character move in Assassin's Creed Revelations the stutter happens. In Modern Warfare 3 it happens regardless of whether I am moving the camera or not. I have defragmented my HDD three times now.

Does anyone know a solution to this? Bear in mind the same thing occured on another desktop I had with completely different hardware than what I have in my new build. The issue could be either a badly optimized game or badly optimized drivers, or some incompatibility between drivers and the game. All drivers are up to date as mentioned before though.

Thanks.
September 30, 2013 3:26:52 PM

pull odd ram. run your matched pairs in the proper slots.

check tessellation settings in game. turn them off or to lowest possible settings. tinker with shadow settings.

go to windows update. install updates, especially any netframework updates. after the machine reboots. go back to windows update.

after that, and while you're still at that site, go to the search bar and look for DX updates.
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September 30, 2013 3:37:00 PM

swifty_morgan said:
pull odd ram. run your matched pairs in the proper slots.

check tessellation settings in game. turn them off or to lowest possible settings. tinker with shadow settings.

go to windows update. install updates, especially any netframework updates. after the machine reboots. go back to windows update.

after that, and while you're still at that site, go to the search bar and look for DX updates.


Thanks for the reply.

Game like AC Revelations, Arkham City, etc. lags even on lowest settings with everything off and resolution at 800x600.

I have already tried running the games with the 8gb ram stick only (tried each of both slots) and have also tried 2 x 2gb ram matched pairs. Also on my previous desktop with different components (see specs above) Arkham City, Deus ex HR, etc. were stuttering just like on my new build.

Will try again for windows updates and will search for dx updates. Thanks
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September 30, 2013 11:03:12 PM

I did the windows updates but the stuttering is still there. I forgot to mention that Amnesia a Machine for Pigs also stutters like crazy and I don't think that should be happening with a HD 7870 and FX-6100 6 core CPU.
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October 1, 2013 8:59:40 AM

swifty_morgan said:
reset cmos. run stuff.


Thanks but the desktop build is brand new including motherboard and cpu.

Stuttering in video games might just be a fact of life, a bit like death. :)  You just have to accept it, can't fight it.
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October 1, 2013 9:27:41 AM

Have you tried OC'ing your CPU?
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October 1, 2013 10:09:48 AM

reset cmos........... don't care how new the machine is. if everything was running right you shouldn't be having those problems.

you may also need to work inside the CCC and in the games control panel.

you may also have a sound driver conflict.............. remove or disable hdmi sound.
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October 1, 2013 1:30:48 PM

swifty_morgan said:
reset cmos........... don't care how new the machine is. if everything was running right you shouldn't be having those problems.

you may also need to work inside the CCC and in the games control panel.

you may also have a sound driver conflict.............. remove or disable hdmi sound.


Thanks for your replies and advice. Appreciate it.

I am quite apprehensive about messing with cmos or bios because I have spent a lot of money on the components and don't wish to see any of them unable to function at all because I am inexperienced when it comes to cmos and bios.

For sound I am using 7.1 surround Gamecom Plantronics headphones and it connects to the pc via usb. The stutter still occurs whether I am using a headphone with mini jack connected to the pc or hdmi connected to the hdtv. I have tried disabling all playback and recording devices except for the plantronics headphones, games still stutter.

I have tried disabling all settings in CCC. No luck.

If you have AC revelations or Amnesia a machine for pigs, do you get stuttering as well? There a lot of people getting stutters in Amnesia for example. There is a youtube clip showing how to modify installation files to stop the stutters in amnesia. Doing research on the net I see that other people are complaining about stutters in the same games I get stuttering in. Could this mean there is nothing wrong with my desktop pc but rather something wrong with these games?
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October 1, 2013 1:59:35 PM

if you're not using the sound associated with the on board sound, here it comes, disable it in the BIOS.......... do it after you reset cmos.............. resetting cmos does nothing but set machine back to "stock" configuration. and I don't care if you didn't touch anything during assembly.

or you can try disabling the onboard sound ( realtek maybe? ) in the device manager. ( start-right click computer-properties-device manager. )

you can also look in control panel/sound......... make sure device you are using is enabled/not pointing to realtek or hdmi.
don't know anything about Amnesia.............. just can't remember.......haha.
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October 1, 2013 3:21:46 PM

swifty_morgan said:
if you're not using the sound associated with the on board sound, here it comes, disable it in the BIOS.......... do it after you reset cmos.............. resetting cmos does nothing but set machine back to "stock" configuration. and I don't care if you didn't touch anything during assembly.

or you can try disabling the onboard sound ( realtek maybe? ) in the device manager. ( start-right click computer-properties-device manager. )

you can also look in control panel/sound......... make sure device you are using is enabled/not pointing to realtek or hdmi.
don't know anything about Amnesia.............. just can't remember.......haha.


Thanks again. I tried everything you suggested except for reseting cmos. I really prefer not to mess with that. I know it will only reset to default but I would go mad if I were unable to use my pc. I have been programming an rpg for some time now and am quite scared of the pc not starting for whatever reason as a result of me having messed something up. I've got back ups of the program of course but I prefer to use my desktop than the crappy laptop I have. Sorry. Besides there are a lot of people experiencing the same stuttering in the same games as I am and all the forums seem to be saying that the developers need to patch the games. But of course they seldom do so. If I want a lag free game guaranteed I guess the best option these days is a console. Thanks.
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October 1, 2013 11:17:35 PM

I think it's a temperature problem
Please download a software called Msi afterburn and check ur GPU temperature ok??
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October 2, 2013 8:22:08 AM

Apoorv Aditya said:
I think it's a temperature problem
Please download a software called Msi afterburn and check ur GPU temperature ok??


Hi, thanks. Temperature is at 27 when not gaming and at 37 when gaming according to msi afterburner. I also have my casing open and a usb fan pointed at the gpu and cpu constantly. I really think it's either a software or driver issue because there does not seem to be anything wrong with hardware. Plus I had stuttering on a previous build with completely different components. It sucks after working my behind off to have bought a HD 7870 at over £200 and a cpu at £200 and motherboard at almost £200 and ram at £60 and still experience stuttering when my hardware is way above recommended specs for the games in which I experience stuttering even on lowest settings and resolution. I'm losing faith in any man made stuff but mostly in the pc gaming industry. I used to be a console gamer (ps3) back in 2008 then I switched to PC in 2009 and started assembling my own desktop pcs from 2009. The only time I have not experienced stuttering in a game was when I used to game on my GTS 250, my first gaming card. Then when I started buying more powerful cards: HD 5770 and HD 7870 then the stuttering started happening. I even get stuttering in arkham asylum using HD 7870. Go figure.
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October 2, 2013 8:35:23 AM

shut down windows auto updates.
shut down auto driver updates.

is the 7870 the only card you used? did you have nvidia installed before? did you uninstall the nvidia drivers before you installed and ran drivers for other card? try uninstalling your drivers ( amd ) and even nvidia if they are there.

when machine reboots let windows find it. then do a custom/advanced install and only install the graphics drivers. nothing else. what happens?
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October 2, 2013 8:42:08 AM

swifty_morgan said:
shut down windows auto updates.
shut down auto driver updates.

is the 7870 the only card you used? did you have nvidia installed before? did you uninstall the nvidia drivers before you installed and ran drivers for other card? try uninstalling your drivers ( amd ) and even nvidia if they are there.

when machine reboots let windows find it. then do a custom/advanced install and only install the graphics drivers. nothing else. what happens?


Yeah, I have the auto updates off in windows. It only updates when I chose it to. I used an HD 5770, GTS 250 and GT440 in previous builds. Currently I am using a HD 7870 with my new build (new motherboard, new cpu, new psu, new hdd). Whenever I install a GPU I completely remove all graphics drivers and install the ones for the new GPU. There are no nvidia drivers left on my HDD since I have swapped the GT440 I was using with a HD 7870 and installed the drivers for that card.

I had already tried uninstalling all amd drivers and letting them reinstall a few months ago.
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October 2, 2013 8:51:29 AM

auto driver updates is something different than windows updates.

shut it down. uninstall drivers. reboot do custom/advanced install. only install graphics driver/nothing else.
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October 2, 2013 3:10:29 PM

swifty_morgan said:
auto driver updates is something different than windows updates.

shut it down. uninstall drivers. reboot do custom/advanced install. only install graphics driver/nothing else.


Thanks. I'll give it a shot. I remember that my nvidia gt440 was stuttering after installing the drivers on the cd and then updating the drivers on the internet. It was only after I uninstalled some other video capture and gpu monitoring programs that was on the cd and got installed automatically when I installed the nvidia drivers for the first time. After uninstalling those programs the stuttering was gone. I read online that the video capture program was causing this.

Regarding amd drivers though I did not notice anything other than the video drivers installing when I installed them for the HD 7870. I'll give your suggestion a shot.
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October 2, 2013 3:50:59 PM

if you don't do a custom or advanced install it loads more stuff if you let it.
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October 4, 2013 6:42:20 AM

swifty_morgan said:
if you don't do a custom or advanced install it loads more stuff if you let it.


Thanks again. No luck however with the resintallation. Months ago I went into msconfig and disabled all startup programs except for antivirus, ccc, and 7.1 surround usb headphones drivers gamecom sound program. All services are ticked and load on boot. I tried disabling all services except for all microsoft services. No difference in performance in games. Tried enabling all start up programs still no difference in performance in games only thing the pc takes slightly more time to start.

I have been reading a lot on the net about stuttering. There is an article which basically states that micro stuttering affects high end system specifically, even single gpu set ups and no one knows, not even the game developers, why stuttering happens on certain systems and not on others. Just yesterday I got Shadow Warrior. Bran new game and just came out. No stuttering at all. It is running perfectly on my system at maxed out settings at 1920 x 1080, 60 Hz. But Assassins Creed Revelations, Arkham City and all these games I mentioned previously they still stutter constantly. I wish a professional could play on my system and see what I'm talking about. It is ridiculous because the stutter happens even on lowest settings possible at 800 x 600. Can you imagine a HD 7870 and FX-6100 (6 core 3.31 GHz) not being able to run Modern Warfare 3, AC Revelations and Arkham City without stutter on lowest settings with every graphics effects turned off at 800 x 600? I think something is definitly wrong with these games and not my system.
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October 4, 2013 9:10:40 AM

If it happens on lowest settings at low resolutions, you've got a CPU bottleneck. That generation of AMD CPU's are pretty bad for gaming TBH. I'd overclock it or get a new CPU.
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October 4, 2013 9:15:08 AM

drivers gamecom sound program



get rid of them.if you use onboard sound-disable/uninstall hd hdmi sound drivers ( device manager ).

use machine-what happens?
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October 4, 2013 10:28:58 AM

swifty_morgan said:
drivers gamecom sound program



get rid of them.if you use onboard sound-disable/uninstall hd hdmi sound drivers ( device manager ).

use machine-what happens?


Yeah I tried that already. Still stutters.
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October 4, 2013 10:32:37 AM

trogdor796 said:
If it happens on lowest settings at low resolutions, you've got a CPU bottleneck. That generation of AMD CPU's are pretty bad for gaming TBH. I'd overclock it or get a new CPU.


Yeah but how can I have a cpu bottle neck with a CPU that has 6 cores 3.3 GHz each core (19.8 GHz in total), and running a game at lowest settings with everything turned off and on very low and with resolution set to 800 x 600?? That makes no sense. By the way the frame rate is at 60 Hz constantly except micro stuttering occurs and the game freezes for a fraction of a second every time I move or look in another direction by then the frame rate drops quickly then comes back to 60 Hz.
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October 4, 2013 11:09:22 AM

how many cores do the said games need?.......... set affinity. what happens?
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October 4, 2013 11:18:18 AM

any way to disable AMD PowerPlay with ZeroCore Power Technology? could be causing problems for the card.............maybe the card is bad. ever think of that?
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October 4, 2013 11:21:44 AM

swifty_morgan said:
how many cores do the said games need?.......... set affinity. what happens?


For an example take Assassin's Creed Revelation recommended system requirements:
AMD CPU: Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ (2 cores, 3.1 GHz each core, total 6.2 GHz)
AMD GPU: HD 5670 512 MB
RAM: 4 GB
OS: Win 7 32
Directx: DX 9
HDD space: 12 GB

Now compare this with my specs:
AMD CPU: FX-6100 (6 cores, 3.31 GHz each core, total 19.86 GHz)
AMD GPU: HD 7870 2GB GDDR5
RAM: 8 GB DDR3
OS: Win 7 64
Directx: DX 11.1
HDD space: 1 TB

Now why do I have micro stuttering in this game when running it on all lowest settings at 800 x 600?

Makes no sense. I have no program running in the background. All drivers up to date. It's also been the same thing on another PC I had which had a HD 5770, 4 GB, quad core.

This has been the biggest mystery of my life so far.
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October 4, 2013 11:27:35 AM

swifty_morgan said:
any way to disable AMD PowerPlay with ZeroCore Power Technology? could be causing problems for the card.............maybe the card is bad. ever think of that?


I've set affinity to 2 cores then 3 cores. The stuttering is still there except then game looks like a slide show.
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October 4, 2013 11:40:58 AM


For an example take Assassin's Creed Revelation recommended system requirements:
AMD CPU: Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ (2 cores, 3.1 GHz each core, total 6.2 GHz)
AMD GPU: HD 5670 512 MB
RAM: 4 GB
OS: Win 7 32
Directx: DX 9
HDD space: 12 GB



only an idiot would believe this............ I have games from 2008 that wouldn't play on those specs.
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October 4, 2013 11:56:32 AM

swifty_morgan said:

For an example take Assassin's Creed Revelation recommended system requirements:
AMD CPU: Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000+ (2 cores, 3.1 GHz each core, total 6.2 GHz)
AMD GPU: HD 5670 512 MB
RAM: 4 GB
OS: Win 7 32
Directx: DX 9
HDD space: 12 GB



only an idiot would believe this............ I have games from 2008 that wouldn't play on those specs.


I see. Even so why would it not run properly on my system with the specs I have on lowest settings and res? I really think the problem is not with my hardware but with the software, in other words, with the game itself not my PC. Because bear in mind in some games I do not have any stutter whatsoever. Such as in Dead space (all of them) and Shadow Warrior just came out a few days ago. No micro stutter no lag at maxed out settings and res. Played for an hour no prob. In games where I get micro stutter it is apparent as soon as the game loads.
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October 4, 2013 1:12:34 PM

uninstall/reinstall drivers........... go to the driver site or game site to seek out driver updates and patches ........... you say this happened on another pc......... what software did that one have that this one has?
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October 4, 2013 1:26:05 PM

swifty_morgan said:
uninstall/reinstall drivers........... go to the driver site or game site to seek out driver updates and patches ........... you say this happened on another pc......... what software did that one have that this one has?


Before building my new desktop, the one I'm using now which has the micro stuttering, I had another desktop which also had micro stuttering. That is why I built a new desktop thinking that I would not have this issue. I have used none of the hardware or software from the other desktop when building this new one.

The other desktop I had had a HD 5770 and quad core CPU. The OS was Win 7 64 bit.

Do you think my HDD could be causing the issue (see name of HDD at the top of this post)? Is the HDD too slow. I have read on other forums about people having the same micro stuttering as I am having. They have upgraded to a SSD. That did not solve the problem.
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October 4, 2013 1:35:37 PM

is the ssd firmware up to date?........ is the ssd configured properly?...... google

what happens if you bypass the HD? ( disable/unhook )?
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October 4, 2013 2:30:08 PM

swifty_morgan said:
is the ssd firmware up to date?........ is the ssd configured properly?...... google

what happens if you bypass the HD? ( disable/unhook )?


Sorry but I don't have a SSD. I was just mentioning that I have read on forums that some people tried to use one in order to eliminate the micro stuttering but it did not work.
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October 4, 2013 5:06:34 PM

Playing on lowest settings doesn't reduce the need for a good CPU. It makes the GPU do less work, leaving most of it to the CPU. You have six cores at 3.3GHZ, but there's more to it than that. You can't just add up all the speed and get 19Ghz or whatever. It doesn't work like that. Performance per core is a big deal too. The bulldozer CPU's by AMD have REALLY BAD performance per core. So if something doesn't put all 6 cores to use, you are gonna have terrible performance since it's only using a core or two and those cores each suck at gaming.

If lowering resolution and settings doesn't help with the problem, my first guess would be CPU bottleneck. Use task manager or core temp, and I bet if you check the load on your CPU one or two cores will be insanely high while the rest are doing next to nothing.
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October 5, 2013 6:26:39 AM

trogdor796 said:
Playing on lowest settings doesn't reduce the need for a good CPU. It makes the GPU do less work, leaving most of it to the CPU. You have six cores at 3.3GHZ, but there's more to it than that. You can't just add up all the speed and get 19Ghz or whatever. It doesn't work like that. Performance per core is a big deal too. The bulldozer CPU's by AMD have REALLY BAD performance per core. So if something doesn't put all 6 cores to use, you are gonna have terrible performance since it's only using a core or two and those cores each suck at gaming.

If lowering resolution and settings doesn't help with the problem, my first guess would be CPU bottleneck. Use task manager or core temp, and I bet if you check the load on your CPU one or two cores will be insanely high while the rest are doing next to nothing.


Each core is 3.31 GHz and there are 6 cores. Is that not enough for a game to play decently on lowest settings. I spent at least $960 to build my desktop. I can't beleive this. How much will I have to spend $30000000000 just to play AC Revelations or Arkham City on lowest settings at 800 x 600. Come on. My system is not the problem. It's the game.

And how come I can play Crysis 3 at very high textures and the rest high settings at 1920 x 1080 with 60 fps with no stuttering. And I can't play AC revelations or arkham city on lowest settings!! There is definitely something wrong with the game not my system.
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October 5, 2013 2:26:44 PM

semichaud1 said:
trogdor796 said:
Playing on lowest settings doesn't reduce the need for a good CPU. It makes the GPU do less work, leaving most of it to the CPU. You have six cores at 3.3GHZ, but there's more to it than that. You can't just add up all the speed and get 19Ghz or whatever. It doesn't work like that. Performance per core is a big deal too. The bulldozer CPU's by AMD have REALLY BAD performance per core. So if something doesn't put all 6 cores to use, you are gonna have terrible performance since it's only using a core or two and those cores each suck at gaming.

If lowering resolution and settings doesn't help with the problem, my first guess would be CPU bottleneck. Use task manager or core temp, and I bet if you check the load on your CPU one or two cores will be insanely high while the rest are doing next to nothing.


Each core is 3.31 GHz and there are 6 cores. Is that not enough for a game to play decently on lowest settings. I spent at least $960 to build my desktop. I can't beleive this. How much will I have to spend $30000000000 just to play AC Revelations or Arkham City on lowest settings at 800 x 600. Come on. My system is not the problem. It's the game.

And how come I can play Crysis 3 at very high textures and the rest high settings at 1920 x 1080 with 60 fps with no stuttering. And I can't play AC revelations or arkham city on lowest settings!! There is definitely something wrong with the game not my system.


It doesn't matter if you have 1000 cores if the game only uses 4 of them. For the most part, the CPU work needed in a game is not effected by settings (not 100% true, but mostly true). Some games will not perform well on a slow AMD hexacore CPU without overclocking. Some games even give the best Intel processors a slow down (down to 45 FPS in Crysis 3 I hear).

45 FPS is still playable. It just isn't ideal for some people.

You went the route of a budget CPU, which is fine, but you do have to live with budget performance some times as a result.
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October 5, 2013 9:02:19 PM

Like bystander said, settings all on low and a really low resolution still resulting and bad frames and dips specifically points to a CPU bottleneck. Lower settings doesn't make it easier for the CPU.

Budget CPU = not so great performance. My recommendation of overclocking still stands.
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October 6, 2013 6:41:51 AM

bystander said:
semichaud1 said:
trogdor796 said:
Playing on lowest settings doesn't reduce the need for a good CPU. It makes the GPU do less work, leaving most of it to the CPU. You have six cores at 3.3GHZ, but there's more to it than that. You can't just add up all the speed and get 19Ghz or whatever. It doesn't work like that. Performance per core is a big deal too. The bulldozer CPU's by AMD have REALLY BAD performance per core. So if something doesn't put all 6 cores to use, you are gonna have terrible performance since it's only using a core or two and those cores each suck at gaming.


If lowering resolution and settings doesn't help with the problem, my first guess would be CPU bottleneck. Use task manager or core temp, and I bet if you check the load on your CPU one or two cores will be insanely high while the rest are doing next to nothing.


Each core is 3.31 GHz and there are 6 cores. Is that not enough for a game to play decently on lowest settings. I spent at least $960 to build my desktop. I can't beleive this. How much will I have to spend $30000000000 just to play AC Revelations or Arkham City on lowest settings at 800 x 600. Come on. My system is not the problem. It's the game.

And how come I can play Crysis 3 at very high textures and the rest high settings at 1920 x 1080 with 60 fps with no stuttering. And I can't play AC revelations or arkham city on lowest settings!! There is definitely something wrong with the game not my system.


It doesn't matter if you have 1000 cores if the game only uses 4 of them. For the most part, the CPU work needed in a game is not effected by settings (not 100% true, but mostly true). Some games will not perform well on a slow AMD hexacore CPU without overclocking. Some games even give the best Intel processors a slow down (down to 45 FPS in Crysis 3 I hear).

45 FPS is still playable. It just isn't ideal for some people.

You went the route of a budget CPU, which is fine, but you do have to live with budget performance some times as a result.


How can the xbox 360 which has a triple core 3.2 GHz cpu run ac revelations without any frame skipping and freezing or micro stuttering whatever it's called and my system which has a 6 core 3.31 GHz can't even run that game on lowest settings at 800 x 600 resolution. It makes no sense. But wait yes it does. It would make sense if the answer was the game on 360 is optimized and therefore mostly bug free but the pc version is bugged and hence the micro stutter I'm experiencing. Hence the problem is not with my system but with the game.

And again how come I do not experience any micro stuttering in Cyrsis 3 at very high textures, high settings, 1080p? Wait I know the answer. Unlike AC revelations crysis 3 doesn't have any bug that will cause the game to micro stutter. Hence again the problem is not my system but the game. If my cpu could not handle AC revelations it certainly would not handle crysis 3. But it does handle crysis 3 without the micro stutter I am experiencing in AC revelations. If you say it is because crysis 3 is better optimised then yes it is. And once again the problem is with AC revelations and not my system.
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October 6, 2013 7:54:34 AM

semichaud1 said:

How can the xbox 360 which has a triple core 3.2 GHz cpu run ac revelations without any frame skipping and freezing or micro stuttering whatever it's called and my system which has a 6 core 3.31 GHz can't even run that game on lowest settings at 800 x 600 resolution. It makes no sense. But wait yes it does. It would make sense if the answer was the game on 360 is optimized and therefore mostly bug free but the pc version is bugged and hence the micro stutter I'm experiencing. Hence the problem is not with my system but with the game.

And again how come I do not experience any micro stuttering in Cyrsis 3 at very high textures, high settings, 1080p? Wait I know the answer. Unlike AC revelations crysis 3 doesn't have any bug that will cause the game to micro stutter. Hence again the problem is not my system but the game. If my cpu could not handle AC revelations it certainly would not handle crysis 3. But it does handle crysis 3 without the micro stutter I am experiencing in AC revelations. If you say it is because crysis 3 is better optimised then yes it is. And once again the problem is with AC revelations and not my system.


You could get the same console experience if you want. Just set your refresh rate to 30 and turn on v-sync. Or use adaptive v-sync (half refresh rate) with Nvidia, or use RadeonPro and use dynamic v-sync with a FPS cap of 30.

Consoles generally run at 30 FPS. It doesn't matter if their CPU cores are slow as molasses, they only have to deliver FPS at 30. It is the jumping around that is making it feel uncomfortable.

Your system can deliver 30 FPS at any resolution you choose. Your system can achieve 30 FPS at near max settings, which is many times more demanding than the console version and many times better looking.

Stop bellyaching, you got what yo paid for. If you want better performance, you would have bought a better CPU, or you could overclock your existing one. I run into similar issues when I use my i7 920 at it's stock clocks of 2.67Ghz due to how old it is. However, with it overclocked to 3.9Ghz, it runs quite nicely.
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October 6, 2013 2:51:44 PM

bystander said:
semichaud1 said:
It doesn't matter if you have 1000 cores if the game only uses 4 of them. For the most part, the CPU work needed in a game is not effected by settings (not 100% true, but mostly true). Some games will not perform well on a slow AMD hexacore CPU without overclocking. Some games even give the best Intel processors a slow down (down to 45 FPS in Crysis 3 I hear).

45 FPS is still playable. It just isn't ideal for some people.

You went the route of a budget CPU, which is fine, but you do have to live with budget performance some times as a result.


How can the xbox 360 which has a triple core 3.2 GHz cpu run ac revelations without any frame skipping and freezing or micro stuttering whatever it's called and my system which has a 6 core 3.31 GHz can't even run that game on lowest settings at 800 x 600 resolution. It makes no sense. But wait yes it does. It would make sense if the answer was the game on 360 is optimized and therefore mostly bug free but the pc version is bugged and hence the micro stutter I'm experiencing. Hence the problem is not with my system but with the game.

And again how come I do not experience any micro stuttering in Cyrsis 3 at very high textures, high settings, 1080p? Wait I know the answer. Unlike AC revelations crysis 3 doesn't have any bug that will cause the game to micro stutter. Hence again the problem is not my system but the game. If my cpu could not handle AC revelations it certainly would not handle crysis 3. But it does handle crysis 3 without the micro stutter I am experiencing in AC revelations. If you say it is because crysis 3 is better optimised then yes it is. And once again the problem is with AC revelations and not my system.


You could get the same console experience if you want. Just set your refresh rate to 30 and turn on v-sync. Or use adaptive v-sync (half refresh rate) with Nvidia, or use RadeonPro and use dynamic v-sync with a FPS cap of 30.

Consoles generally run at 30 FPS. It doesn't matter if their CPU cores are slow as molasses, they only have to deliver FPS at 30. It is the jumping around that is making it feel uncomfortable.

Your system can deliver 30 FPS at any resolution you choose. Your system can achieve 30 FPS at near max settings, which is many times more demanding than the console version and many times better looking.

Stop bellyaching, you got what yo paid for. If you want better performance, you would have bought a better CPU, or you could overclock your existing one. I run into similar issues when I use my i7 920 at it's stock clocks of 2.67Ghz due to how old it is. However, with it overclocked to 3.9Ghz, it runs quite nicely.[/quotemsg]

I have already tried capping the fps at 30 with Dxtory. Tried vsync enabled and disabled. The micro stuttering does not stop. Does it make sense to you that a game on lowest settings would require more than a six core cpu to run? Perhaps I should make myself clear about what I mean when I say micro stuttering. In some games I get this behaviour where the game runs at a constant 60 fps or above, if I disable vsync, but then as I make the character move forward or move the camera I experience freezing for a fraction of a second and the frame skips. As though the pc paused for a fraction of a second to load something in the game. Otherwise it runs at 60 fps. This freezing also happens on lowest settings and resolution. I do not know what you should call this behaviour but it is at its worse in Modern Warfare 3 even on lowest settings.

Now please explain why modern warfare 3 at lowest settings and all settings off at 800 x 600 should freeze for fractions of a second as though it cannot stream or load what it needs to fast enough, on a system as I described at the top of this post. As I said Crysis 3 i have no problem of micro stutter or freezing the game runs at 1080p very high textures and high settings smooth. Why would it not run proper for modern warfare 3 on lowest settings and res??

The problem is not the hardware but the software. Everyone who replies to this post seems to neglect the fact that my systen runs crysis 3 without micro stuttering but less demanding games such as modern warfare 3 or AC revelations get micro stuttering. Please take into account that my system is not shit. It can run crysis 3 on very high textures and high settings. That is not negligable so stop telling me that I get what I pay for.
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October 6, 2013 3:46:15 PM

Look, you are getting the correct answers, why are you so damn resistant to accept them? Do you think this rant is going to give you a result other than what has been said?

Consoles run at 30 FPS, they use a very inaccurate and forgiving controller, so you don't notice hickups as much, and in some cases, ports are not optimized to run well on the PC.

In some cases, they play exactly as intended, but the dev's intended you to play at 40-50 FPS, and not higher and did not try to avoid CPU bottlenecks. This is the type of game you've run into, and you have a slow CPU on a core per core basis. You can OC if you want more performance, or you can get a better CPU. Complaining about is not going to help.

Clock for clock, the hardware on a PC is far superior, but a console is exactly the same as the next one, so dev's can fine tune software to get the most out of a console, where as PC's have very general code that requires drivers in between the hardware and software to function. Because of the 1000's of possibilities, there will be some cases where things don't perform optimal. In general, Intel CPU's get more attention as they are by far the most used.
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October 7, 2013 6:08:38 AM

bystander said:
Look, you are getting the correct answers, why are you so damn resistant to accept them? Do you think this rant is going to give you a result other than what has been said?

Consoles run at 30 FPS, they use a very inaccurate and forgiving controller, so you don't notice hickups as much, and in some cases, ports are not optimized to run well on the PC.

In some cases, they play exactly as intended, but the dev's intended you to play at 40-50 FPS, and not higher and did not try to avoid CPU bottlenecks. This is the type of game you've run into, and you have a slow CPU on a core per core basis. You can OC if you want more performance, or you can get a better CPU. Complaining about is not going to help.

Clock for clock, the hardware on a PC is far superior, but a console is exactly the same as the next one, so dev's can fine tune software to get the most out of a console, where as PC's have very general code that requires drivers in between the hardware and software to function. Because of the 1000's of possibilities, there will be some cases where things don't perform optimal. In general, Intel CPU's get more attention as they are by far the most used.


My point exactly regarding everything you just said. Thanks. Conclusion some pc games are not optimized enough for my system and others are. This is what I was trying to get at this whole time I was "ranting".
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