I want constructive criticism

lighteater12 · Oct 1, 2013

I want to know if this is a solid gaming build. The parts I chosen are in this link. I am sticking with the MSI G87-Z45 Board.
My budget is $1250. I wanna know if I can improve this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/lighteater12/saved/#savedbuild_543991
I am going to overclock, please do not include any headphones. I already have some Razer ones. If I can get my hands on a better CPU and still not sacrificing not that much money. I want to keep it on LGA 1150 if I want to upgrade to broadwell
CPUs.

RazerZ · Oct 1, 2013

Let me help you out, give me a sec

Outlander_04 · Oct 1, 2013

As a gaming build its only a moderate performer at best . You have way too much of your budget spent on processor and motherboard and a relatively small amount spent on the graphics card .
Unless you are using a small , low resolution monitor it will only run newer games on lowered settings

Look at the system builder marathon builds on the toms home page

RazerZ · Oct 1, 2013

Do you mind going with a blue theme?

lighteater12 · Oct 1, 2013

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

No, I don't mind

RazerZ · Oct 1, 2013

Done. Definitely solid and will be amazing for gaming. Here it is:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($85.87 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: AOC E2460SD 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($134.67 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech G105 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G500 Wired Laser Mouse ($46.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1254.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-01 18:22 EDT-0400)

lighteater12 · Oct 1, 2013

RazerZ :

I don't mind the blue theme, but I am much more used to Razer Gaming equipment, which is why I also dropped in more money for it. I will drop the motherboard for the ASUS one, but I need atleast 1 SSD as a OS Drive for performance. And I don't like NVIDIA GPUs, I just think that AMD is better in performance and cost.

RazerZ · Oct 1, 2013

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

I don't mind the blue theme, but I am much more used to Razer Gaming equipment, which is why I also dropped in more money for it. I will drop the motherboard for the ASUS one, but I need atleast 1 SSD as a OS Drive for performance. And I don't like NVIDIA GPUs, I just think that AMD is better in performance and cost.

Well AMD is better in cost but not performance. Also Razer products aren't all that great, and they don't use good parts for the most part. You can get better equipment for a cheaper price than Razer products. Also go for Nvidia if you plan to use dual gpus in the future, otherwise you can change it to a HD 7950.

lighteater12 · Oct 1, 2013

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

Well AMD is better in cost but not performance. Also Razer products aren't all that great, and they don't use good parts for the most part. You can get better equipment for a cheaper price than Razer products. Also go for Nvidia if you plan to use dual gpus in the future, otherwise you can change it to a HD 7950.

I will if my FPS is not enough for me, but I would seriously doubt that, I'm still not sure with the NVIDIA Cards, but I will give it a go anyways, I would rather be the parallel to my brother than be the exact same. No but seriously, I am starting to turn into him. I should stop talking about my life. Anyways I will drop the mouse, keep the keyboard, I like the RAT series, the extra weight helps my hands go where they need(What is up with the way physics work with them though?). Not just that, I don't think a air cooler would be good for a 4670K CPU, especially when I'm going to overclock, and need to add some extra voltage.

RazerZ · Oct 1, 2013

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

I will if my FPS is not enough for me, but I would seriously doubt that, I'm still not sure with the NVIDIA Cards, but I will give it a go anyways, I would rather be the parallel to my brother than be the exact same. No but seriously, I am starting to turn into him. I should stop talking about my life. Anyways I will drop the mouse, keep the keyboard, I like the RAT series, the extra weight helps my hands go where they need(What is up with the way physics work with them though?). Not just that, I don't think a air cooler would be good for a 4670K CPU, especially when I'm going to overclock, and need to add some extra voltage.

Actually you'd be suprised. The air cooler I chose is a lot more efficient than that water cooler, and can go to speeds around 4.0 GHz. Anyway I'm not to sure of the RAT series because it has this cheap plastic look to it, and doesn't have a rubber or silicon grip. There are lots of other great choices with that kind of mouse out there, but here's some I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/GHOST-SHARK-400-2000-Expert-Gaming/dp/B00CDJRBKS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_6

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Gaming-Cartridge-Switches/dp/B00CDINUTK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_11

lighteater12 · Oct 1, 2013

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

Actually you'd be suprised. The air cooler I chose is a lot more efficient than that water cooler, and can go to speeds around 4.0 GHz. Anyway I'm not to sure of the RAT series because it has this cheap plastic look to it, and doesn't have a rubber or silicon grip. There are lots of other great choices with that kind of mouse out there, but here's some I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/GHOST-SHARK-400-2000-Expert-Gaming/dp/B00CDJRBKS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_6

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Gaming-Cartridge-Switches/dp/B00CDINUTK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_11

I'll go with the Ghost Shark 400-2000 DPI, I will be using it at 2000 DPI max. Plus, it looks awesome. Thanks for the help with the mouse scandal.

RazerZ · Oct 1, 2013

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

Actually you'd be suprised. The air cooler I chose is a lot more efficient than that water cooler, and can go to speeds around 4.0 GHz. Anyway I'm not to sure of the RAT series because it has this cheap plastic look to it, and doesn't have a rubber or silicon grip. There are lots of other great choices with that kind of mouse out there, but here's some I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/GHOST-SHARK-400-2000-Expert-Gaming/dp/B00CDJRBKS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_6

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Gaming-Cartridge-Switches/dp/B00CDINUTK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_11

I'll go with the Ghost Shark 400-2000 DPI, I will be using it at 2000 DPI max. Plus, it looks awesome. Thanks for the help with the mouse scandal.

No problem

lighteater12 · Oct 2, 2013

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

Actually you'd be suprised. The air cooler I chose is a lot more efficient than that water cooler, and can go to speeds around 4.0 GHz. Anyway I'm not to sure of the RAT series because it has this cheap plastic look to it, and doesn't have a rubber or silicon grip. There are lots of other great choices with that kind of mouse out there, but here's some I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/GHOST-SHARK-400-2000-Expert-Gaming/dp/B00CDJRBKS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_6

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Gaming-Cartridge-Switches/dp/B00CDINUTK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_11

I'll go with the Ghost Shark 400-2000 DPI, I will be using it at 2000 DPI max. Plus, it looks awesome. Thanks for the help with the mouse scandal.

No problem

I'm still not sure about switching the motherboard though, and whats the difference/advantages of a gold plated USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 gaming mouse/keyboards, which is something I want to take advantage of the G45 board.

RazerZ · Oct 2, 2013

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

Actually you'd be suprised. The air cooler I chose is a lot more efficient than that water cooler, and can go to speeds around 4.0 GHz. Anyway I'm not to sure of the RAT series because it has this cheap plastic look to it, and doesn't have a rubber or silicon grip. There are lots of other great choices with that kind of mouse out there, but here's some I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/GHOST-SHARK-400-2000-Expert-Gaming/dp/B00CDJRBKS/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_6

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Programmable-Gaming-Cartridge-Switches/dp/B00CDINUTK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_11

I'll go with the Ghost Shark 400-2000 DPI, I will be using it at 2000 DPI max. Plus, it looks awesome. Thanks for the help with the mouse scandal.

No problem

I'm still not sure about switching the motherboard though, and whats the difference/advantages of a gold plated USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 gaming mouse/keyboards, which is something I want to take advantage of the G45 board.

Not much differences, with the G45 your paying extra for eye candy. That's all.

lighteater12 · Oct 2, 2013

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

lighteater12 :

RazerZ :

I'll go with the Ghost Shark 400-2000 DPI, I will be using it at 2000 DPI max. Plus, it looks awesome. Thanks for the help with the mouse scandal.

No problem

I'm still not sure about switching the motherboard though, and whats the difference/advantages of a gold plated USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 gaming mouse/keyboards, which is something I want to take advantage of the G45 board.

Damn you MSI for bamboozling me! Thanks for the tip, can I have the Cons/Pros of each board?

Not much differences, with the G45 your paying extra for eye candy. That's all.

RazerZ · Oct 2, 2013

Can also get a cheaper motherboard which is just as good, if not better. The extreme 4

http://vr-zone.com/articles/first-look-mainstream-z87-boards-from-asrock-and-msi/32950.html

lighteater12 · Oct 4, 2013

RazerZ :

This... this mobo! Its made of pure gold(not litterally), Its display port will most definitely help me with my multi-cable problem! I am switching out that mobo, and I am probably going to do some dual-SLI, when I get another $200 at some point. And the white theme makes my computer the polar opposite of my brother's, he's using AMD cards with intel CPU, the biggest difference though, is the chipset, he's using LGA 1156, hah! so yeah, I'm going to re-adjust my build now. Also, I'm going to drop an SSD in there, put my two 500GB hard drives in there, not going to run them in RAID 0 though, they're mechanical, so if one of them dies, there's no usable data. I'm sure they're at least 5400 RPM drives though, nothing less than that.
EDIT: I just realized they were both 7200 RPM, hah, good luck for me!
EDIT...again: Having realized NVIDIA's 3D technology, I could use it with either a 3D monitor, or that Sony 3D Display... hmm... what to choose.
EDIT... one more time: Will the CPU Cooler heat up my entire room? I really, really don't like a hot room, my room is smaller than my brother's, but when he has his custom PC on, his room is hot like hell, he would need that fan 13/7(that's because he has a job). If I end up needing a hot computer, I may as well not OC. Its terrible, and he's using a i5 processor.

lighteater12 · Oct 10, 2013

Just so you know, I'm generally going to be playing and making some minecraft videos, and don't say, you don't need this build for that. 1. I'm intending on using extensive shaders, with settings on high, which means that its going to be graphic intensive 2. I will also do graphic intensive games like BattleField 4 and Command & Conquer 2013/Generals 2 3. I will NOT be using fraps, too expensive, and I will NOT edit my videos with Vegas Pro, all footage is raw, because I am not a person who can edit videos, I would have a friend who can, but really, I would make him do it if he's doing a gameplay WITH me. BTW, is it worth it to put an SSD in there, use two other hard drives that I own, which both are 7200RPM and 500GB, but runs in SATA 3 Gb/s and run them in RAID 0, or RAID 1? I need someone's opinion/tips. You know who you are.

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