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October 1, 2013 9:49:19 PM

Hey guys, I know by the title, people are gonna hate on me right away for thinking I'm a noob or something but I'm not xD. I was just wondering if 8350 will work well in the long run. I plan on upgrading my pc to one of the two and I would like to know wether I should get an i5, an 8350, or just wait to see what some in the next generation of AMD. A reply would be greatly appreciated!

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Blacklex

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October 1, 2013 9:55:04 PM

What are you doing with your computer? Gaming, video editing, ...?
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October 1, 2013 9:57:39 PM

Just simply gaming :) 
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October 1, 2013 10:02:25 PM

Then I would suggest the i5-4670k. AMD is not planning on coming out with their AM4 socket for a little while more. Haswell is brand new and works very well, and the LGA-1150 socket allows you to upgrade to the Haswell i7 processors too, which beat out the AMD 8350. I would only use a AMD 8350 in a budget build or a build being used for tasks with a lot of threading and multitasking; if budget is of no concern to you then the Intel will do you better.

One thing though that may push you to the 8350 though, is that games are starting to become more threaded (Battlefield 4 is said to use 8 cores if it can). The per core performance of the Intels should be enough to out-do the threading of the AMDs, but it's something for you to think about.
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October 1, 2013 10:10:09 PM

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Then I would suggest the i5-4670k. AMD is not planning on coming out with their AM4 socket for a little while more. Haswell is brand new and works very well, and the LGA-1150 socket allows you to upgrade to the Haswell i7 processors too, which beat out the AMD 8350. I would only use a AMD 8350 in a budget build or a build being used for tasks with a lot of threading and multitasking; if budget is of no concern to you then the Intel will do you better.

One thing though that may push you to the 8350 though, is that games are starting to become more threaded (Battlefield 4 is said to use 8 cores if it can). The per core performance of the Intels should be enough to out-do the threading of the AMDs, but it's something for you to think about.


A budget is in mind but I will keep that to myself and deal with that when I purchase the product xD. I have had a good experience with AMD since I have built my system with both a CPU and a GPU. My only problem with Haswell is that it will not be compatible with the Haswell refresh (I believe this has something to do with them putting something off the mobo and on the cpu and in Haswell refresh, that are undoing that) :(  I know that I still have lots of time to decide over this topic bc I have to save up for quite a while (only a 14 yr old kid doing yard work for neighbors xD) A reply would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Blacklex
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October 1, 2013 10:11:59 PM

Upgrading to an i7 down the road from a 4670k? You might as well save the extra 80-100 bucks up and go with it from the start. Spending 240 dollars now and then 300+ later isn't really good value. You'd have to wait years to get an old model Haswell for a decent price on ebay. You don't need an i7 to get max performance from games, anyway.

A question for the OP: Are you overclocking? If not, just get a non-k series Intel quad-core. Save a few bucks. If you are overclocking, I'll argue that the 8350 is going to be more enjoyable to tweak. With Intel, the overclocking is pretty functional, but there's not much to play with, especially on Haswell.
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October 1, 2013 10:23:02 PM

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Upgrading to an i7 down the road from a 4670k? You might as well save the extra 80-100 bucks up and go with it from the start. Spending 240 dollars now and then 300+ later isn't really good value. You'd have to wait years to get an old model Haswell for a decent price on ebay. You don't need an i7 to get max performance from games, anyway.

A question for the OP: Are you overclocking? If not, just get a non-k series Intel quad-core. Save a few bucks. If you are overclocking, I'll argue that the 8350 is going to be more enjoyable to tweak. With Intel, the overclocking is pretty functional, but there's not much to play with, especially on Haswell.


Well... that's a good question that I'm really not sure about. I have been told two stories, one of the stories states that over clocking really helps in gaming, the other says otherwise :p  I would really like your opinion if you over clock. A replay would be greatly appreciated!

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October 1, 2013 10:23:59 PM

I am a AMD fan now mind you as of now I dont know what they are going to do in the near future and I am also on a fence as of the first of the year rolls around I am going to replace one of my computers. The 8350 is a great cpu for what it is but whats next after that and as we all know right now there are several oprions on the intel side of the cpu camp to buy now and upgrade later.

I am myself about to buy a 3570 or better chip and work up from there with my next build but as of now I would say the intel chip would be your better buy al tho more cost in long run but your upgrade path may be secure for later compared to a amd 3 slot chip. Hope this helps.
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October 1, 2013 10:43:57 PM

blacklex said:
thepinkanator95 said:
Then I would suggest the i5-4670k. AMD is not planning on coming out with their AM4 socket for a little while more. Haswell is brand new and works very well, and the LGA-1150 socket allows you to upgrade to the Haswell i7 processors too, which beat out the AMD 8350. I would only use a AMD 8350 in a budget build or a build being used for tasks with a lot of threading and multitasking; if budget is of no concern to you then the Intel will do you better.

One thing though that may push you to the 8350 though, is that games are starting to become more threaded (Battlefield 4 is said to use 8 cores if it can). The per core performance of the Intels should be enough to out-do the threading of the AMDs, but it's something for you to think about.


A budget is in mind but I will keep that to myself and deal with that when I purchase the product xD. I have had a good experience with AMD since I have built my system with both a CPU and a GPU. My only problem with Haswell is that it will not be compatible with the Haswell refresh (I believe this has something to do with them putting something off the mobo and on the cpu and in Haswell refresh, that are undoing that) :(  I know that I still have lots of time to decide over this topic bc I have to save up for quite a while (only a 14 yr old kid doing yard work for neighbors xD) A reply would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Blacklex


The Haswell refresh will not really be an issue. If you go with Haswell, it will last you a long time no questions asked. I also have to agree with designasaurus that going straight to the i7 would be more cost effective, but being a 14 year old kid doing yard work, you may only be able to get an i5.

As far as overclocking, I would stay with Intel and not worry about overclocking too much now, but get the K series so you can do it later. As new processors come out you will want that overclocking option, but with the i7-4770k performing as well as it does now without overclocking you shouldn't need it.
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October 1, 2013 10:53:30 PM

FX-8350 is 2000 rupese lesser than 4670k in India

4670k is newer than 8350 and clearly beats fx-8350
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October 1, 2013 10:58:49 PM

The problem is with the op hes a kid hes doing yard work it may take some time for him to gather the money to do his upgrade or build so as of now the cost isnt a factor till he has the fungs no pun intended towards anyone.
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October 1, 2013 11:49:16 PM

You don't need to overclock the Intel quad-cores or the 8350 to get good game performance. Overclocking is great for benchmarks, and for helping AMD cpus catch up a bit to Intel in games, but for an Intel quad-core, even the cheapest will provide great general gaming power. The graphics card is far more important for gaming.

You can save money by giving up overclocking and pocket it, or even put it into a nicer graphics card, which will give you more of a gain in games than any overclocking. Or, you can get the AMD cpu, and have the option to overclock, and save money.

My perspective on overclocking is generally that I do it for the fun of it. I've got an older Phenom II 965 system that I've overclocked as well, and honestly 3.4 GHz to 4.0 GHz only shows up in benchmarks and running thermal/fluid simulations in NX. My eyes aren't good enough to look at a screen and say, "oh, I've got 60 fps now instead of 55", you know?
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October 2, 2013 7:33:15 AM

Okay, since I am also getting a new case with this, it will add $65 more to the cost. I also went with an Ivy Bridge solution just to save a few bucks. Will going with Ivy Bridge do anything to the performance against going with Haswell? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JYdU
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October 2, 2013 10:45:08 AM

blacklex said:
Okay, since I am also getting a new case with this, it will add $65 more to the cost. I also went with an Ivy Bridge solution just to save a few bucks. Will going with Ivy Bridge do anything to the performance against going with Haswell? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JYdU


The reason I put Haswell on the original build is so the socket will be upgradable for a long time. Ivy Bridge will eventually be replaced, much sooner than Haswell.

Also, you don't need to overclock now. The reason I went with the K series is so you can overclock once the CPU starts going out of date. This will save you money in the long run so you won't need to buy a new processor in the future when games become bigger and better.
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October 2, 2013 12:54:56 PM

thepinkanator95 said:
blacklex said:
Okay, since I am also getting a new case with this, it will add $65 more to the cost. I also went with an Ivy Bridge solution just to save a few bucks. Will going with Ivy Bridge do anything to the performance against going with Haswell? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JYdU


The reason I put Haswell on the original build is so the socket will be upgradable for a long time. Ivy Bridge will eventually be replaced, much sooner than Haswell.

Also, you don't need to overclock now. The reason I went with the K series is so you can overclock once the CPU starts going out of date. This will save you money in the long run so you won't need to buy a new processor in the future when games become bigger and better.


Ok, thanks! I think that the way I will save money there is just by buying a lower end motherbord bc I can always upgrade that later :)  Do you know a good mobo from around $70-$90?
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October 2, 2013 3:47:16 PM

blacklex said:
thepinkanator95 said:
blacklex said:
Okay, since I am also getting a new case with this, it will add $65 more to the cost. I also went with an Ivy Bridge solution just to save a few bucks. Will going with Ivy Bridge do anything to the performance against going with Haswell? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JYdU


The reason I put Haswell on the original build is so the socket will be upgradable for a long time. Ivy Bridge will eventually be replaced, much sooner than Haswell.

Also, you don't need to overclock now. The reason I went with the K series is so you can overclock once the CPU starts going out of date. This will save you money in the long run so you won't need to buy a new processor in the future when games become bigger and better.


Ok, thanks! I think that the way I will save money there is just by buying a lower end motherbord bc I can always upgrade that later :)  Do you know a good mobo from around $70-$90?


Here is a good motherboard, and if you just spend the extra $10 you won't have to upgrade later.
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October 2, 2013 6:41:18 PM

Lol u did not add a link or anything xD
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