How can GTX 560 Ti max BF4 and my GTX 770 oc can't???:( please read!

VeTeRen ThoR

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guys my one friend got the gigabyte gtx 560 ti and he is able to max bf4 i dont now how he can but he plays it online and people say my gtx 770 oc 2gb wont be able to max it by 1080 with over 60 fps???? How is this so????? also he has an old cpu i3 and i am gona get the fx 8350 andd overclock to 4.7ghz........
 

VeTeRen ThoR

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I shaLl be buying the gigabyte gtx 770 oc 2gb at christmas....hopely prices will be on a special. Also he has a 2.93 ghz i3 dual core
And he is playing on the gigabyte gtx 560 ti and he well said at school the game's graphics is a lot better than bf3's and also he can max it over 60 fps.....and benchmarks even showed that two gtx 560 ti's isint enough to beat the gtx 770 oc in performance and people on toms hardware say I won't be able to max bf4 at 1080 and get over 60 fps.... So what's the confusing problemn...???
 

Metalrenok

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Well, your friend is lying, simple as that :) There's no way a single 560Ti with an i3 can max it over 60fps and 1080p, he might be able to play at mid-low setting with 40+ but I don't think he can push it more than that..
 

kookie3010

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where in the world would the 560ti beat the 770.unless he 2x 3x 4x overclocked the card.lol.i guess your friend is just bragging bout his system and try to make the 770 looks bad so that you wont buy it and he wont be beaten by your rig.go for the 770.its way better than the 560ti.
 

VeTeRen ThoR

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I am planning to buy that card... And overclocking is awesome to me... Just bad I don't know how to do that in the bios:( I am going to need help there... Anyway sorry for being wrong! He just sended me a message and said he max bf4 at 1680 x 1050 or that reso and play things on ultra without lagging(his playing online). Also people say I won't be able to play bf4 maxed on 1920 x 1080 with the gtx 770 oc 2gb and fx 8350 overclocked.... Do you think they lie??? Will I reach 60 fps there??? Or will I atleast get over 50 fps??? I'm still happy at 50 but not less in shooting games!!!

 

kookie3010

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we still need to see if that is even possible to max bf4 on a single 560 ti.(which is impossible and obviously a lie)on bf3 it might be able to max the setting.the 770 should do well on high but maxing the game might need a little tweaking like turning the AA off and direct x 11 features like ambient and tesellation off if you want to average at 50fps at that resolution.
 

VeTeRen ThoR

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Okey that's strange...looks like bf4 will have extremely good graphics!!! Anyway well you guys do believe my friend with the 560 ti can max bf3 on 1680 x 1050 right getting over let's say 50 fps because I saw it with my own eyes and his game didn't lag(he was playing singleplayer campaign) also after 2 years ill get another 770 oc maybe or just a new gaming video card then... How long will my rig then be able to play games at medium-ultra settings without AA on 1920 x 1080 how many years??? Also what is anti aliasing actually??? Thanks for your help so far guys I love you people! So what is AA???
 

kookie3010

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AA is an option to smoothen rough edges in games.but it uses most of the gpu memory and tends to hit the frame rate hard.the 770 could last you a couple of years and if you get another 770 to sli it would be a beast.
 

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Well I can max battlefield 3 singleplayer with 40-50 fps and I have really low end PC and my CPU is bottlenecking. On multiplayer im having trouble with my fps, I think its because the CPU since multiplayer is CPU intensive and singleplayer runs fine.
 

VeTeRen ThoR

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cool! Okey let's say for example I'm getting two gtx 770 oc 4gb's how many years would it be able to max games at 1920 x 1080 at ultra and no AA but the direct X 11 features included like ambient?

 

kookie3010

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the number of years may varied depending on the games.older gpus like the 560ti,660ti,680,6770,6870,etc still prove to be worthy at this time.i have an old rig running intel core 2 duo e7600 3.06ghz with and amd 6770 1gb ddr5 and i can still play modern games at high setting with few tweaks like lowering down resolution from 1080 to 900p/768p.(manage to play blacklist on high with AA set to fxaa and crysis 3 on medium setting but choke at some point).but if use the same card on one my new rig with the i5 or i7 4770 i will manage to play it on a much higher res and higher setting.this shows that you also need a good cpu or you will end up bottlenecking and hindering the card true performance.that said dual 770 would simply play any modern games at max setting with decent framerate.but bear in mind that sli still have a few issues like microstutter the same goes for crossfire as well.for the mean time instead of going for dual 770 i would suggest going for a single 780.but since the 780 very pricey the 770 should do u good for years to come.
 

VeTeRen ThoR

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"Okey so do you think it is worthy to buy this rig?
FX 8350 (overclocked to 4.7 GHz)
2 x 4GB 1600mhz kingston ram
990FX something motherboard
GTX 770 OC 4GB
750W superchannel

some people well say that the 750W superchannel is not a good power supply well in my country a corsair psu is about 200$ to 300$ and the superchannel is 86$ so i wont be able to stretch to the corsair psu

what is your suggestions???

 

kookie3010

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yes.its a good setup.i would suggest getting a well known brand for the psu and at least a bronze certified.i know it cost a lot more money but for the long run it might just save your money from having to replace your whole system that is damage due to a cheap unreliable psu.
 

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Would like to comment regarding the GTX 560 Ti on BF4

My System is as such:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 Stock Speed 2.66 Ghz
MSI GTX 560 Ti OC Twin Frozr ii Stock Speed
8GB ram
750 GB hard disk

And I can tell you that I cannot even play on Low settings properly. I am not sure whether its my card or my processor but something tells me that its leading to my processor since i tried lowering my resolution and the graphics card and nothing is allowing the beta version to run smoother than usual.

I could still play but it stutters a lot with quite low fps. Dont' know how much but assuming between 15-25.

Also, your GTX 770 is like 2.5x better than mine (assuming only). So if i were you, I would just get GTX770 if I have the budget.

On another note, can anyone advise me on whether my CPU is the issue or the GPU other than the fact that BF4 is beta? Thanks.
 

kookie3010

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Some might be because of your cpu and some because of the fact that bf4 is still in beta.
 

Chris Keough

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Just thought I would chime in since my setup closely matches what op is considering.

My current setup is:
i5-4670k @ 4.2ghz
MSI GD65 z87 gaming mb
2x gtx770 msi oc sli
16gb corsair veng 1600mhz ram
CM 800 silent pro gold certified ps
Corsair h55 closed loop cpu cooler
180gb intel 520 SSD (OS and game cache using steammover)
128gb samsung 840 msata SSD (game cache)
2tb wd black (storage)

I have been playing bf4 beta since oct. 1 at 1920x1080 ultra settings and fps occasionally dips down into low 20s for a brief moment, I use vsync so otherwise very smooth. The drops are very brief, less than a second but have lasted a few steps, maybe 2-3 seconds in a series at most. Disabling msaa 4x does help performance slightly, but not much. I checked GPU usage with afterburner and this game is not really stressing my cards at all, temps are low 50s and usage was pretty consistent at about 60% on both cards. I understand vsync will limit GPU usage not drawing extra frames, but if the cards have headroom to spare there should not be slowdown unless cpu is bottle necking performance. I also checked cpu usage and it would peak at around 80% using intel overclocking utility to monitor, temps were consistent at around 60 degrees C with all cores running at 4.2ghz. I do not think this is indicative of final release performance and is to be expected with beta software. I am not using beta drivers as they gave me problems in far cry 3, I am using latest WHQL drivers, 220.49 I believe. This PC was purpose built in August for the upcoming games with bf4, titanfall, AC4, etc in mind so I kinda went overkill I know, but if wanted to get the best performance for the buck with minimal upgrades for years to come. So far I have I have not found a game I can not max or ultra with rock solid silky smooth performance at 60 frames with vsync on. It's everything I had hoped for, bf4 was the first game to give me (very slight) problems. Don't fret.

I am certain battlefield 4 will meet my lofty expectations and yours aswell, but for now the beta is very system intensive and most likely not optimized, otherwise it would be final already. ;)

My .02

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corvetteguy1994

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Agreed on the psu part. my signature \/ is my main rig but my LAN rig was a 2500k a hd5870 and asrock z77 extreme4 i cheaped out and bought a "rentek" psu and now all i have is a bunch of fancy looking door stops and the only surviving part was the 5870......transformer blew up.
 

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About the MSI GTX 560 Ti.... its weird but i can make BF4 run smoothly on a ASUS GTX 460. Took a while until i downgraded the driver to 320.49 (and the new BETA driver 331.40 works fine as well).
But if i try it with a MSI GTX 560 Ti it freezes. Can't even get past the first loading screen.
It must be an issue between BF4 and Nvidias drivers.
 

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Sorry to say that but I have 560 Ti. And I'm maxed out BF4.
 

undercontr

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Hey people. 560 Ti can maxed out BF4. But not that simple. First you have to change y our settings on Low. After that, you must Resume gaming. When you're on Low, open Settings, Video and you'll see everything is Low of Off. Now change every settings to Ultra but one by one. When you changed one setting to Ultra, save it and return to game after 5 second do it again to 2. setting. Do it to the bottom. And you'll get 30 fps. I'm maxed out now and it's perfect. I can send you picture.

My system:

Intel i5 750 2.7
4 GB RAM
GTX 560 Ti AMP! Edition by ZOTAC 1 GB 256 bit.
Intel DP55WB Motherboard.