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Which is the better i5 for gaming? (3570k vs 4670k)

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October 3, 2013 10:45:00 AM

I'm about to upgrade from an i5 2400 but I'm still going back and forth between which i5 I want... What would you guys do?

3570k for $219 and this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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4670k for $239 and this mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also if I was to go with the 4670k, is the extra $20 worth it?

I do plan on overclocking, I am currently running a GTX 780 and I am bottlenecking like a mothertrucker LOL. If you guys have any other recommendations on anything let me know here!

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October 3, 2013 10:49:48 AM

the 1150 motherboard will let you drop in the haswell refresh when it comes out the 1155 mb is a dead slot. the 1150 cpu is a little faster then the older one but does not overclock as well. the newer 1150 mb has more 6g sata ports built in and more usb 3.0 ports.
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October 3, 2013 10:51:08 AM

What motherboard do you have now? i5 2400 is a pretty powerful chip. I doubt you are bottlenecking a 780.
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October 3, 2013 10:52:14 AM

At that point it comes down to overclocking.

The 3570k would do a better job if you want to overclock on stock cooler right away, while the 4670k is about 5-10 % better if not overclock. Although the 4670k is less easy to overclock and overheats more if you do.

Don't worry about bottleneck with either, they will do the job well.
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October 3, 2013 10:58:54 AM

logainofhades said:
What motherboard do you have now? i5 2400 is a pretty powerful chip. I doubt you are bottlenecking a 780.


MSi PH67A-C43(B3)

I should probably re-phrase and say that my CPU is bottlenecking instead, like trying to play BF3 or Crysis3. My friend and I both have GTX 780s and he has an i7 2700k. So what we'll do is play a game at the same time side-by-side, same OC settings or just default, same graphical settings and I'll drop about 20-40 frames depending on games.
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October 3, 2013 10:59:46 AM

logainofhades said:
What motherboard do you have now? i5 2400 is a pretty powerful chip. I doubt you are bottlenecking a 780.


Also when I play CPU demanding games my cores are always at 98-100%.
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October 3, 2013 11:03:29 AM

You can overclock your current cpu slightly. I did my i5 2400. It currently is residing in my file server, so I still use it. http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1811622

If you feel the need though, you can upgrade to a 3570k with just a bios update.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/PH67A-C43--B3-.html#/?div...
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October 3, 2013 11:03:34 AM

dextermat said:
At that point it comes down to overclocking.

The 3570k would do a better job if you want to overclock on stock cooler right away, while the 4670k is about 5-10 % better if not overclock. Although the 4670k is less easy to overclock and overheats more if you do.

Don't worry about bottleneck with either, they will do the job well.


I have heard that the 4670k is worse at overclocking. Not sure how true it is though. And if so, would it make a noticable difference in gaming compared to a 3570k? I also have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU cooler.
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October 3, 2013 11:07:24 AM

Raheel Hasan said:
U dont need to upgrade when u have i5 2400 it will not bottleneck anything, it is in the top most tier in the toms cpu hierarchy. U are wasting money for nothing.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...


I'm losing a good 20-40 frames in CPU demanding games. My CPU is constantly running at 98-100% depending on the game.
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October 3, 2013 11:11:41 AM

According the manual it is. Just have to change the CPU ratio.
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October 3, 2013 11:15:23 AM

logainofhades said:
According the manual it is. Just have to change the CPU ratio.


When I go into my BIOS its grayed out and I'm not able to change it.
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October 3, 2013 11:19:02 AM

Have you tried enabling overclocking genie first? I am not highly familiar with MSI's way of doing things. On my P67 extreme 4, I couldn't change the multiplier without checking something else first. I am just trying to hopefully save you a bit of $$$.
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October 3, 2013 11:51:19 AM

3570k is not much slower than a 4670k, 5-8%, but also will overclock higher so either chip would suit your needs. You could try the 3570k in your current board and see what you get. If it doesn't work, an Asrock Z77 extreme4 is a nice board. Maybe that board locks non k version chips. The manual clearly shows it can be adjusted and I would take a guess they had a 2500k in the board when they did the screen shot based on the settings being displayed and the adjust cpu ratio being able to be chosen. Did you try disabling the genie and see if it did anything?
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October 3, 2013 11:57:10 AM

logainofhades said:
3570k is not much slower than a 4670k, 5-8%, but also will overclock higher so either chip would suit your needs. You could try the 3570k in your current board and see what you get. If it doesn't work, an Asrock Z77 extreme4 is a nice board. Maybe that board locks non k version chips. The manual clearly shows it can be adjusted and I would take a guess they had a 2500k in the board when they did the screen shot based on the settings being displayed and the adjust cpu ratio being able to be chosen. Did you try disabling the genie and see if it did anything?


I have yet to try disabling it.
But something did happen, if I enable "Adjust CPU ratio in OS" my CPU automatically adjust to 3400.00 MHz. But it is disabled (originally) the CPU frequency goes back down to 3100.00 MHz. And when I enabled the CPU ration to 3400.00 MHz my PC still ready 3100.00 MHz after I boot it.

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October 3, 2013 12:06:32 PM

logainofhades said:
3570k is not much slower than a 4670k, 5-8%, but also will overclock higher so either chip would suit your needs. You could try the 3570k in your current board and see what you get. If it doesn't work, an Asrock Z77 extreme4 is a nice board. Maybe that board locks non k version chips. The manual clearly shows it can be adjusted and I would take a guess they had a 2500k in the board when they did the screen shot based on the settings being displayed and the adjust cpu ratio being able to be chosen. Did you try disabling the genie and see if it did anything?


Also heres a link to my mobo: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/PH67A-C43--B3-.html
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October 3, 2013 12:11:36 PM

Yea my best guess is that MSI decided to follow the rules and not let you overclock the non K chips. Asrock did not, hence my overclock on my i5 2400. Some users of other H67 boards saw OC options available to them after placing a k series chip in the board.

http://forums.hexus.net/motherboards/262909-h67-overclo...
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October 3, 2013 12:21:47 PM

logainofhades said:
Yea my best guess is that MSI decided to follow the rules and not let you overclock the non K chips. Asrock did not, hence my overclock on my i5 2400. Some users of other H67 boards saw OC options available to them after placing a k series chip in the board.

http://forums.hexus.net/motherboards/262909-h67-overclo...


So if I am understanding this right, if I have a any LGA 1155 chipset for example like a 2500k, 2700k, 3570k, this board is supposedly OCable?

Or am I way off LOL.
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October 3, 2013 12:53:43 PM

That is what it appears to be the case. You could always beg your friend to let you borrow his 2700k long enough to find out. :lol: 
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October 3, 2013 12:57:13 PM

logainofhades said:
That is what it appears to be the case. You could always beg your friend to let you borrow his 2700k long enough to find out. :lol: 


Haha I was thinking about that!
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