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I'd ask you exclude Digital storm & Ironside from your recommendations, my last PC from both of those guys was a waste of money. In any case, that's really all I'm looking for. My budget if 6,000$ maximum, and I'm hoping an amazing rig(Read: Orgasml) could be built for that price.

So, I'd appreciate aid, thanks guys.
 
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$6K????? Why not build a $2K rig yourself and save the trouble from ordering from a shady big box reseller?

What those resellers mark up for a $6K rig you could easily build yourself for around $2500. If you must go that route, Falcon Northwest and Origin are your best bets.
 
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You REALLY want to build your won custom water loop. You NEED to know how it works and know its ins and outs so you can do maintenance (cleaning blocks, changing coolant), and make repairs if something goes wrong. I wouldn't trust a custom water loop that was mailed to me honestly. I would take it apart and rebuild it from scratch to ensure everything is good.
 
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Spending over $2.5k is just asking for diminishing returns, unless you want to spend like $7-8k for a 4k screen and a suitable PC.. for 2.5k you can get an amazing parts for a desktop and build it yourself. The experience is quite easy and fun; there are loads of guides and videos available on the internet and u can ask people on the forum if you are struggling..
 
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In response to G, love the avatar, and, I want a fantastic computer. I've been on amazon, looked for what 2500 can buy me, and I'd honestly prefer a more.. Long-term option, (I dread the word future proof.) Alright, if any of you can send me some links on /how/ to build a PC with a custom loop for the GPU & CPU, I'd be much obliged. Budget is the same, if anyone wants to aid me in picking parts
 
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If you don't know how such a thing works, I advice you to get a bit more experience before fiddling with such an expensive system; there is a lot you need to know and monitor; as for an amazing pc:

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($429.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($648.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($648.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 1000W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($208.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $3434.81
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-03 17:29 EDT-0400)
 
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Building your own PC is not as hard as it seems. There are tons of guides out there and also help right here :) . There are definitely things you need to remember to do, such as putting mobo risers in the correct place, but it is seriously cheaper and you can get the parts you want (most of the time) from the places you want (most of the time). I've spent 2.5K (NZD) on my PC over the last 4 months (could not get everything at once from preferred shop and shops here are limited) but any custom built PC going for the price I built mine would not have anything as good as the parts I have. I suggest you build your own. It's not that hard and can be fun too! There is always support (free support!) here at Tom's Hardware too.

It's a great experience. I would highly suggest it.
 
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Breaking Bad FTW!!! :bounce:

Yeah future proofing is a moot point anymore with new CPUs offering only a +-10% increase in performance from one generation to the next. However, GPUs are a thing that is rapidly changing. The AMD R9s (aka Radeon 9XXX) are going to be out in a few weeks and those could be serious game changers depending on if AMD gets the drivers right. Early reports are a bit iffy but those are going on speculation and not actual tests. But you don't have to spend $6K on a gaming rig any more, as was stated it will have dramatic diminishing returns when you go to sell it - you'd get maybe 1/4 of what you originally paid for the rig.

I would do something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (Gunmetal) ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($167.04 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2082.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-03 18:35 EDT-0400)
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($569.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($416.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Dominator GT 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($339.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 7K4000 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (3-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($689.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Cooler Master Blade Master 40.8 CFM 80mm Fan ($6.56 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Antec 75024 79.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($8.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA Classified 1500W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($449.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG BH16NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $5127.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-03 20:43 EDT-0400)

Hows this?
 
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Complete, total overkill if you ask me. Dominator Platinum is ridiculously expensive and you don't need that much RAM for a gaming rig. You also don't need the 3930K, which has now been replaced with the 4930K. It'd also be better to go with a pair of Titans rather than triple 780s.
 
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Agreed. Technology changes so fast, that something (coding, programming, method or reading data, drivers, hardware) could change and render your rig that you expected to last 10 years useless way before you expect.

Think about it this way. In the 70's in America we had big heavy cars people modified with 500+ horsepower to be fast. Then in the 80's these little Japanese cars (300zx, 240z, rx7) came along you only needed 300 horsepower to be faster than the big old cars from the 70s.

What I'm trying to say is that this isn't going to be a 10 year rig. That if DDR4 RAM comes out and you need it to run future games well? Then you have to buy a motherboard that supports it, a new CPU, maybe a new GPU setup if they can't communicate with the new motherboard. You never know. It just plain isn't worth it unless you have money to waste. If you do have money to waste, there are much more fun things to spend it on than a computer that will perform the same as one $3000 less expensive.
 
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