Game Rig; Can't Decide on Few Parts

peacemak3r

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Hello, I'm back here asking for suggestions and what not from you guys!
Appreciated the help I received a few months back here as well!

Sadly, the other plan a few months back didn't fall through and I've ended up with a laptop. Over these months, I felt it's time to go back to the desktop again.

I don't have an approximate purchase date as of yet, I'll be mainly purchasing from time to time but the main date of completion would be around the end of the year or November the earliest.

Budget Range: I don't have an ideal budget range, but mainly I'd say $1200? (Not including things like case fans, DVD drives, Windows OS and things like that.)

Currently I've come to these choices:
CPU: Haswell ideally, probably a i5-4670K
CPU Cooler: Can't decide whether to use a Corsair Liquid or CoolerMaster 212 EVO - I live in a basement room so it can get a bit dusty.
Motherboard: I'm drawn a blank here. I was thinking the MSI Z87-G45 or the ASUS Sabertooth. (I'm a bit drawn on looks as well as most of my peripherals/routers LED's are blue.)
Memory: I was planning to pick up 8GB of DDR3-1600 from either Corsair or G.Skill, but I was thinking of ADATA as well but I'm not sure of their quality as of yet.
Storage: 128GB SSD from Crucial or Samsung and using 1TB WD Black from another build as a data storage.
Video Card Drawn between a 660Ti or a 760, some friends are telling me to just stick with a 660Ti (Future SLi is possible.)
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 (I wanted to keep the rig on my desk and I'm a bit limited in terms of space on it.)[I know this may conflict with the CPU Cooler situation and/or future SLi configurations, ideally I need a case to be less than 10" in width and at least under 22" in length.)
Power Supply: Either a SeaSonic or Corsair 750W Modular PSU. I choose 750 just in case of any future upgrades.

Fans: Noctura or Corsair fans 1 or 2 exhaust and 2 intakes in the front.
Also in addition to all this, I wanted to know if it was better to dual monitor with 2 21" monitors rather a single 23/24"?

Again open to suggestions and tweaks but mainly just stuck on that montherboard/cpu cooler with of course the case if it does pose a problem.

 
Solution
CPU - Sound Choice

Cooler H series ..."unsound choice" pun intended :) .... better said "loud sound" choicev .... after it reaches 60% CPU load, sound is unbearable.
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/03/12/swiftech-h220-vs-corsair-h100i-noise-testing/

The Hyper 212 is a great "budget" cooler.... but that's what it is ....a "budget" cooler. If ya have the budget, id use the Phanteks PH-TC14-PE .... the Thermalright Silver Arrow and Npoctua DH-14 fall in right behind..... The Noc is jjust fugly tho ....and Phanteks has multiple color choices to match ya color scheme if that kinda thing important to you.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,14.html...
CPU - Sound Choice

Cooler H series ..."unsound choice" pun intended :) .... better said "loud sound" choicev .... after it reaches 60% CPU load, sound is unbearable.
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/03/12/swiftech-h220-vs-corsair-h100i-noise-testing/

The Hyper 212 is a great "budget" cooler.... but that's what it is ....a "budget" cooler. If ya have the budget, id use the Phanteks PH-TC14-PE .... the Thermalright Silver Arrow and Npoctua DH-14 fall in right behind..... The Noc is jjust fugly tho ....and Phanteks has multiple color choices to match ya color scheme if that kinda thing important to you.
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe_cpu_cooler_review,14.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709011

MoBo - Thats quite a range of features and cost there...... $235 for the Sabertooth .... $160 for the G45 .... both great boards but widely divergent target and cost. If ya can swing up, I highly recommend the Asus Maximus VI Formula @ $290. However, if ya willing to look at something in the middle, the GD-65 has the same MIL spec components as the Sabertoth and the same Gaming target as the G45 .... not only that, it's been widely heralded as the best Z87 MoBo out there

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_z87_gd65_gaming/12.htm

MSI has been using components that meet or exceed MIL-STD-810G for some time as part of its Military Class build philosophy. Parts such as Super Ferrite Chokes that run at up to 35 degree Celsius lower temperatures, have a 30% higher current handling capacity, and a 20% improvement in power efficiency; Tantalum filled Hi-C Caps that are are up to 93% efficient; and "Dark Capacitors" that feature Lower ESR and a ten-year lifespan all tied into a PCB with improved temperature and humidity protections as part of the "Military Essentials" package......In the end MSI's Z87-GD65 is a board that comes with an expansive feature set that includes all your basics and the extras that set them apart such as the V-Check points, upper end audio, Dual BIOS ROMs, KIller Network package, Military Class IV package, and a three-year warranty. Couple that with good looks that carry the dragon theme through the board, and you have a winning combination at $189.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z87_gd65_gaming_review/15

Now and again a motherboard appears that is so obviously brilliant, and so affordable, that we wonder if anything will be able to top it. For a while that crown was held by the ASUS Sabertooth, both in X58 and then P67 variants. Then MSI stole the crown with the Z77 MPower. Looking at the Z87 GD65 Gaming we think it's going to take something extraordinary to top it, such is the perfect storm of price, performance, features and looks.

The switch to Military Class 4 has given us an extremely ready overclocker too. You're always thermally limited when overclocking and the i7-4770K is one of the most demanding around. Considering the amount of cooling we're using we think that although the GD65 is capable of bringing 5GHz from our i7-4770K you'd need a proper water loop to make the most of it.

Performance is outstanding. The stock results were a particular highlight. We know a lot of people still just like to put their CPU in and go, without overclocking it first. Despite how easy it is these days we know that the fear factor still exists. So you'll be glad to know that the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming really rocks hard even at stock settings. Naturally the overclocking is blistering too, with some OC3D records broken.

MSI have laid the gauntlet down to all the other manufacturers. Gorgeous to look at, blistering performance and all at a very affordable price, the MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming is not only the new benchmark for Z87 motherboards, but probably for all motherboards.

TechpowerUp's Editor's Choice
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/Z87-GD65_GAMING/15.html

PureOverclock's Editor's Choice
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/msi-z87a-gd65-gaming-motherboard-review/22/

HardOCP Editor's Choice
http://hardocp.com/article/2013/07/10/msi_z87gd65_gaming_lga_1150_motherboard_review/7#.Uk4XGhAhGra

HighTech Legion Editor's Choice
http://hitechlegion.com/reviews/motherboards/35004-msi-z87-gd65g?showall=&start=8

Memory - I been using these (Mushkin 1866 and 2133) ..... tho now that they getting popular, getting very hard to find
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-scaling-gaming-haswell-richland,3593-18.html

$188 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130692

GFX - Recommend the newer card 760 x 2 >> 780

Case - Can't beat the 500R at $80 ($140 MSRP - $20 newegg discount - $20 MIR -$20 off w/ promo code EMCXLVN57, ends 10/3)
And it's only 8.1" wide ....fits the Phanteks and has 200m side fan, great cable routing, cooling and beautiful finish.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010

Full modular is a total waste .... extra cost, reduced efficiency, additional failure points.... Hybrid modular provides all absolutely necessary cables hard wired and all optional cables modular. NOTE: check out Corsair's PSU reviews on jonnyguru ...ones with M suffix didn't fare well.

Monitor - Single 144 Hz Monitor with Lightboost rules :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

 
Solution

Jared485

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Id go with the 212 EVO over the liquid cooling, just personal preference dont have to worry about a pump going. I personally im getting the Noctua NH-D14 cpu cooler it cools better than most Water coolers.

Can't beat how user friendly the ASUS UEFI is, the sabertooth is a great board.

For the video card, if you might be future sli'ing itd be best to get the 760 because then if you sli that, it would be alot better all around than the 660ti sli'd. i read over and over get the newest and best GPU you can right now so when you SLI you are more up to date and have better performance. I read 760's sli are better than a titan.. dont know if its totally true but sounds reasonable.

Both seasonic and corsair are very good brands, and you cant beat modular psu's, 750 would be good if you do SLI.

The monitors all come down to preference, both cards would be able to handle the 2 monitors. some people prefer the dual monitors if its affordable. Some dont like the gap the 2 monitors create,
 

peacemak3r

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Thanks for the inputs.

I'll take the consideration of the Phanteks or Noctua over the 212 and Corsair coolers.

I also changed the case of choice to the 500R as you noted.

Graphics will also change to 760as said.

Motherboard, I'll look into the GD-65 as well and make the change.

Now down to memory, still can't decide here but I feel as if it shouldn't matter. Any input on the ADATA's?
 

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