FPS drop in games every 7-8 seconds :(
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kolosa
October 4, 2013 8:05:50 AM
intel core i7 2,93Ghz
Asus gtx 770 direct cuII
corsair TX850W
8 gb of ram
Motherboard P7H55-M SI
So i recently upgraded my computer from ati radeon hd 5870 to new graphics card Asus gtx770 direct CUII, and i also bought new ram modules.. i had 2x2gb and now i use 2x4gb so i have 8 gb ram.. The problem is i get in all games.. and its fps drop like every 7 seconds and it lasts for 3 seconds.. for example i play battlefield 3.. and i get amaazing fps on ultra like 100fps.. and then it drops every 7 seconds to 40 fps for 3 seconds.. if i play crysis3 it goes like from 45 fps down to like 15 fps every 7 seconds,.. also gpu usage goes down to 40% or more when fps drop occur,.. and then goes back up to 99% and then its good fps... and it doesnt stop,... this problem was happening with older gpu also,.. first i tought i need new psu,.. and i upgraded to corsair TX 850W,.. problem is still here. Maybe my CPU is slow? and i need to overclock it? im afraid of voltages,.. i dont know what could cause this problem,.. i need your help guys
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Asus gtx 770 direct cuII
corsair TX850W
8 gb of ram
Motherboard P7H55-M SI
So i recently upgraded my computer from ati radeon hd 5870 to new graphics card Asus gtx770 direct CUII, and i also bought new ram modules.. i had 2x2gb and now i use 2x4gb so i have 8 gb ram.. The problem is i get in all games.. and its fps drop like every 7 seconds and it lasts for 3 seconds.. for example i play battlefield 3.. and i get amaazing fps on ultra like 100fps.. and then it drops every 7 seconds to 40 fps for 3 seconds.. if i play crysis3 it goes like from 45 fps down to like 15 fps every 7 seconds,.. also gpu usage goes down to 40% or more when fps drop occur,.. and then goes back up to 99% and then its good fps... and it doesnt stop,... this problem was happening with older gpu also,.. first i tought i need new psu,.. and i upgraded to corsair TX 850W,.. problem is still here. Maybe my CPU is slow? and i need to overclock it? im afraid of voltages,.. i dont know what could cause this problem,.. i need your help guys
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HillBillyAsian
October 4, 2013 8:14:31 AM
robthatguyx
October 4, 2013 8:17:42 AM
Well,this could be a number of things, try updating your latest drivers.If that doesn't work try running one of the 4gb modules.Do you have an ssd or hdd?Download hw monitor and monitor in game temps.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
As this can be a number of things were going to need to do a number of tests to try to find it.
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
As this can be a number of things were going to need to do a number of tests to try to find it.
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kolosa
October 4, 2013 8:34:12 AM
ram definetly isnt,.. i have ran it on old modules and on new ones.. and on single ram module,.. about drivers , well i just reinstaled completley new windows 7 ultimate 64-bit with fresh update drivers so.. it isnt,.. i have hard drive and not ssd. dont know about temperatures,.. dont know how to use this programs :S
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kolosa
October 4, 2013 8:37:58 AM
kolosa
October 4, 2013 9:13:19 AM
omg.. i was playing battlefield 4 now.. in a little window.. not in fulscreen just to see temperatures of my cpu,.. it spiked constantly from 60C to 70C.. when it was on 60C it run smoothly.. but like every 2 seconds it started fps drops.. and cpu temperatures went to 70C,.. and then went down to 60C stoped lagging... this did continiusly and there were same spikes.. until i stoped playing bf4.. cpu temperatures went normalny to 40C.. wtf??!?!
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Soulraptor
October 4, 2013 9:19:15 AM
kolosa said:
omg.. i was playing battlefield 4 now.. in a little window.. not in fulscreen just to see temperatures of my cpu,.. it spiked constantly from 60C to 70C.. when it was on 60C it run smoothly.. but like every 2 seconds it started fps drops.. and cpu temperatures went to 70C,.. and then went down to 60C stoped lagging... this did continiusly and there were same spikes.. until i stoped playing bf4.. cpu temperatures went normalny to 40C.. wtf??!?!That happens to everybody in BF4 Beta. It's horribly optimized.
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kolosa
October 4, 2013 9:28:24 AM
kolosa
October 4, 2013 9:28:47 AM
robthatguyx
October 4, 2013 9:29:01 AM
Run the program than play your game a game thats been out for a while and isnt horribly optimized.The program will show the hottest temp on the right side and current on the left side.take a screen shot and post it here after about 10 minutes. 70c is on the warm side but its not your problem,have you tried running your memory in both channels?say you ran in dimm slot 1 and 3,try running it in 2 and 4.
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robthatguyx
October 4, 2013 9:29:48 AM
kolosa
October 4, 2013 9:31:27 AM
robthatguyx
October 4, 2013 9:34:34 AM
mouse24
October 4, 2013 9:41:27 AM
This is what I would personally do.
First download a GPU/CPU frequency monitoring program. Have them running whilst playing the game. Wait till you get FPS drops a couple of times, tab out of the game then check what the graphs say.
I recommend GPU-Z and CPU-z. For GPU you might also want to look into MSi Afterburner or similar. Personal preference really.
First download a GPU/CPU frequency monitoring program. Have them running whilst playing the game. Wait till you get FPS drops a couple of times, tab out of the game then check what the graphs say.
I recommend GPU-Z and CPU-z. For GPU you might also want to look into MSi Afterburner or similar. Personal preference really.
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kolosa
October 4, 2013 9:44:59 AM
kolosa
October 4, 2013 10:54:21 AM
this does in far cry 3 also.. not only in battlefield 4,.. http://postimg.org/image/i45f2whr1/
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kolosa
October 4, 2013 1:33:11 PM
mouse24
October 4, 2013 8:00:47 PM
Try my suggestion. I mainly wanted you to check to see if the proc/gpu was for some reason downclocking itself during gaming. (Its happened before)
Also check for a bios update (Don't update if it doesn't explicitly state that it fixes some problems that might be related to this. No need to take a risk of bricking your board when it won't help anything)
Also check for a bios update (Don't update if it doesn't explicitly state that it fixes some problems that might be related to this. No need to take a risk of bricking your board when it won't help anything)
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kolosa
October 5, 2013 2:27:08 AM
well when there are fps drops my gpu usage goes down and then back up and it is okay. and my cpu is thermal throteling, i was told to buy new Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo for CPU. becouse when it hits 70C it starts lagging and then it goes back to 60C,.. this keeps repeating. i think new cooler will fix it.
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mouse24
October 5, 2013 2:55:41 AM
bobback
October 7, 2013 8:47:06 AM
It can be a lot of different problems.
As you said, CPU throttling can be the problem. But that could happen only if the game was a CPU intensive game, which i don't really remember if BF is.
Just one thing. You are playing games on Ultra, right? And since you are using a GTX 770 i guess it have 2GB video for memory. Im not sure if these games use that ammount of Ram, but just to be sure, you can reduce the quality of the game textures. You don't need to reduce anything except the textures. If this solves the problem, then its because you are experiencing a memory swap in games. At least when i had a GTX 560 last year i had this problem, but it wasn't exactly a drop in FPS, usually the game was freezing for less than a second, and then it was good and playing at good fps.
As you said, CPU throttling can be the problem. But that could happen only if the game was a CPU intensive game, which i don't really remember if BF is.
Just one thing. You are playing games on Ultra, right? And since you are using a GTX 770 i guess it have 2GB video for memory. Im not sure if these games use that ammount of Ram, but just to be sure, you can reduce the quality of the game textures. You don't need to reduce anything except the textures. If this solves the problem, then its because you are experiencing a memory swap in games. At least when i had a GTX 560 last year i had this problem, but it wasn't exactly a drop in FPS, usually the game was freezing for less than a second, and then it was good and playing at good fps.
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alga
October 7, 2013 9:03:34 AM
kolosa
October 7, 2013 1:44:37 PM
drops accur even if i set settings to all lowest in far cry 3.. from 130 fps is droping to 50fps and its the same timing with temperature of CPU 70C-60C and with unstable gpu usage,.. however if i play crysis 1 on higest settings wich is not cpu demanding,.. i get stable fps around 50,.. the cpu temperature is around 50-60C and gpu usage is stable at 99%,.. but when i play cpu demanding games like crysis 3 or far cry 3 or battlefield 3 the same problem occurs,.. i think the new cooler for cpu shoud fix it,.. what are your touthgs on this guys? thank you!
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kolosa
October 7, 2013 1:51:05 PM
oh wait.. mouse24,.. maybe your right,.. maybe its not fault temperature but is my cpu downclocking itself??,.. i dont know how too see if it really does that,. but when i play game and fps drop occur i hear some noice dissapear in cpu,.. its really quiet hard to hear but when the fps goes up,.. this little noise comes back up,.. like its cpu working or fan?
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bobback
October 7, 2013 6:37:59 PM
Kolosa, thanks for testing it.
By your reports then i think its safe to assume that it has nothing to do with texture swap.
To check if your CPU is Throttling you can use 2 programs at the same time. CPU-Z and Intel Burn Test.
Run the test and while its running on Intel Burn Test check CPU Z to see if your CPU clock is going to decrease. If it happens, then you are experiencing throttling. Im not sure at which temperature it should start. I use a i7 3770k that should only enables throttling at around 90c but while testing i noticed that when it reaches 80c then it starts to reduce its speed.
If this is the problem i believe i good (and cheap) cooler like the TX3. You can also downclock your CPU and CPU vcore a little, this should help you to not exceed the temperature while using the stock cooler.
By your reports then i think its safe to assume that it has nothing to do with texture swap.
To check if your CPU is Throttling you can use 2 programs at the same time. CPU-Z and Intel Burn Test.
Run the test and while its running on Intel Burn Test check CPU Z to see if your CPU clock is going to decrease. If it happens, then you are experiencing throttling. Im not sure at which temperature it should start. I use a i7 3770k that should only enables throttling at around 90c but while testing i noticed that when it reaches 80c then it starts to reduce its speed.
If this is the problem i believe i good (and cheap) cooler like the TX3. You can also downclock your CPU and CPU vcore a little, this should help you to not exceed the temperature while using the stock cooler.
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kolosa
October 16, 2013 12:20:08 PM
mouse24
October 16, 2013 12:29:58 PM
kolosa
October 19, 2013 11:20:17 AM
YAAAAAY problem not solved... while playing temperatures are from 45-35C when it reaches 45 its fps drop.. temp goes down to 35% and fps goes up... same fucking story like before,.. but then it was from 80-70.. same is with unstable gpu usage.. when fps drop occur, gpu usage goes down and then back up.. im so sad and have no more hope for my comp.. invested 800€,.. first touthg it was psu fault.. then cpu cooler faullt... none of that. still unstable gpu usage and temperatures spiking
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kolosa said:
YAAAAAY problem not solved... while playing temperatures are from 45-35C when it reaches 45 its fps drop.. temp goes down to 35% and fps goes up... same fucking story like before,.. but then it was from 80-70.. same is with unstable gpu usage.. when fps drop occur, gpu usage goes down and then back up.. im so sad and have no more hope for my comp.. invested 800€,.. first touthg it was psu fault.. then cpu cooler faullt... none of that. still unstable gpu usage and temperatures spiking
(((( please help me!try updating your motherboard BIOS, and going through the bios settings, you can also disable cpu thermal throttling. You said earlier when your cpu hits 70c you notice it throttle, i would do as suggested by mouse and get a hyper tx3 cpu cooler.
http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=P7...
there are a bunch of stability fixes in later BIOS's that might help.
Another thing i would suggest is to use Driversweeper in safe mode to remove all traces of nvidia and amd drivers and registry entries, then only install the latest whql nvidia driver.
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adss
November 20, 2013 4:51:48 AM
I had a similar problem recently.
60fps for 2 seconds, drops instantly to 30 for a second, then back to 60....
I thought it was one of the windows updates causing problems again, however after slowing uninstalling everything 1 by 1 and occasianlly 2 by 2 etc
I have fixed it.
2 things I changed before it fixed....
Uninstalled Microsoft.net 4 client profile and the Microsoft.net 4 Extended.
Uninstalled the newer 9.13xxxxx nvidia physx drivers.
I then restarted the pc and reinstalled just the Microsoft.net 4 client profile and installed an older version of nvidia physx by installing an older driver. (314 version nvidia drivers which come with 9.12 physx drivers)
The problem now does not happen. Not sure which one caused the problem exactly, the physx 9.13 or .net 4 extended......
Maybe this will help you or others.........maybe not
60fps for 2 seconds, drops instantly to 30 for a second, then back to 60....
I thought it was one of the windows updates causing problems again, however after slowing uninstalling everything 1 by 1 and occasianlly 2 by 2 etc
I have fixed it.2 things I changed before it fixed....
Uninstalled Microsoft.net 4 client profile and the Microsoft.net 4 Extended.
Uninstalled the newer 9.13xxxxx nvidia physx drivers.
I then restarted the pc and reinstalled just the Microsoft.net 4 client profile and installed an older version of nvidia physx by installing an older driver. (314 version nvidia drivers which come with 9.12 physx drivers)
The problem now does not happen. Not sure which one caused the problem exactly, the physx 9.13 or .net 4 extended......
Maybe this will help you or others.........maybe not
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mouse24
November 20, 2013 6:19:23 AM
San Vig
June 17, 2014 2:45:28 AM
Predi007
October 7, 2014 4:00:33 PM
kolosa said:
well i dont understand why i get no fps drop in crysis 1 and why gpu usage is stable.. but when i play crysis3 or battlefield 3,.. or newer games my fps are constantly droping to half.. and gpu usage is unstable,.. same with olg gpu
crysis 3 and bf3 are a LOT more cpu intensive than crysis 1.
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iamlegend
October 7, 2014 4:42:38 PM
In games like BF4 or Crysis 3, you will not expect a stable 120FPS the entire game in ultra settings, even 90FPS stable is unachievable because there are choke points in the game.
If you are gaming in 1080p 60Hz monitor it is best to cap your FPS to 60 or enable V-sync to have a smoother gameplay.
It doesn`t matter if your are not getting those 120FPS the stable gameplay is what matter the most.
Significant FPS drops is inevitable in those games so try enabling V-sync or capping FPS to 60 and see the result.
If you are gaming in 1080p 60Hz monitor it is best to cap your FPS to 60 or enable V-sync to have a smoother gameplay.
It doesn`t matter if your are not getting those 120FPS the stable gameplay is what matter the most.
Significant FPS drops is inevitable in those games so try enabling V-sync or capping FPS to 60 and see the result.
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Predi007
October 7, 2014 5:02:37 PM
iamlegend said:
In games like BF4 or Crysis 3, you will not expect a stable 120FPS the entire game in ultra settings, even 90FPS stable is unachievable because there are choke points in the game. guys u don't understand the situation, i have the same problem as kolosa.
we have a hardwer or a software problem, not a game problame...
all of my new games, like shadow of mordor or alien isolation is runing perfectly for 1 minute than an fps lag drop comes in everi 5 second.. its horrible and i dont know what the hell is the problem, my amd pc was bougth about 2 weeks ago
when the lags come my cooler sistem has more noise, bot not a lot.
pls halp!!
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mouse24
October 7, 2014 6:01:28 PM
Predi007 said:
iamlegend said:
In games like BF4 or Crysis 3, you will not expect a stable 120FPS the entire game in ultra settings, even 90FPS stable is unachievable because there are choke points in the game. guys u don't understand the situation, i have the same problem as kolosa.
we have a hardwer or a software problem, not a game problame...
all of my new games, like shadow of mordor or alien isolation is runing perfectly for 1 minute than an fps lag drop comes in everi 5 second.. its horrible and i dont know what the hell is the problem, my amd pc was bougth about 2 weeks ago
when the lags come my cooler sistem has more noise, bot not a lot.
pls halp!!
What have you tried to resolve it? My suggestions would be to use Furmarks 10 minute burn in test at your monitors native res note the max temps, then after thats done grab HWmonitor + prime95 stress test your cpu with prime95 for atleast 10 minutes and note the max temps again. (HWmonitor is a temp monitoring program)
What are your system specs and what settings/resolution are you running the games at, does it happen with all games or just some games?
Edit: Also this thread is a year old.
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Predi007
October 8, 2014 1:00:26 AM
It hapens with every big games, which require good pc like the new alien isolation and the shadow of mordor, or bf4, but it doesn't hapen with naruto stom revolution although its also a new game, so the problem i think is definitely a software thing that bloks my cpu, i think this is the problem, but i don't know how to turn of a bloking think like this :S
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