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October 6, 2013 12:27:25 AM

Hello, let's get to it - - - -

Approximate Purchase Date: this week.

Budget Range: $1500 - $2500+

System Usage from Most to Least Important: development work in machine learning, particularly recommender systems. Statistical programming in R, etc. utilizing parallel and GPU programming. Web development and graphics e.g. Photoshop. Some video editing. Didn't use the g-word, but it wouldn't hurt.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Do you need to buy OS: Win7 Pro, will also use Fedora or Ubuntu.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com but any reliable source is OK.

Location: New York, NY

Parts Preferences: none.

Overclocking: Maybe.

SLI or Crossfire: Not at this time.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2 x 1920x1080

Here's the part list so far. Looking to avoid overkill, underkill, just plain bad picks in lieu of better ones, wasting money, and so on. Budget-minded monitor recommendations would be a big help. Will probably keep this system for at least four years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($224.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 10 Storage -
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($624.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $2225.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 03:15 EDT-0400)

Thanks in advance!

a b L Programming
October 11, 2013 10:05:58 PM

Looks pretty good, for X79 I lean to the Asus mobos, might look at their P9X79 LE, regardless good build, think it will suit your needs well
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October 12, 2013 3:27:00 AM

Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4
a better cpu-cooler
add an SSD
going with 1600MHz RAM would be fine as well, statistics might benefit a tiny bit from lower timings (CL).
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a b L Programming
October 12, 2013 8:06:30 AM

The cooler is fine unless you plan extreme OCing over 4.5, SSD would be nice, but for programming and working with large data sets the 1866 would definitely be better due to the wider bandwidth
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November 5, 2013 11:10:39 AM

RevWaldo said:
Hello, let's get to it - - - -

Approximate Purchase Date: this week.

Budget Range: $1500 - $2500+

System Usage from Most to Least Important: development work in machine learning, particularly recommender systems. Statistical programming in R, etc. utilizing parallel and GPU programming. Web development and graphics e.g. Photoshop. Some video editing. Didn't use the g-word, but it wouldn't hurt.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Do you need to buy OS: Win7 Pro, will also use Fedora or Ubuntu.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com but any reliable source is OK.

Location: New York, NY

Parts Preferences: none.

Overclocking: Maybe.

SLI or Crossfire: Not at this time.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2 x 1920x1080

Here's the part list so far. Looking to avoid overkill, underkill, just plain bad picks in lieu of better ones, wasting money, and so on. Budget-minded monitor recommendations would be a big help. Will probably keep this system for at least four years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($224.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 10 Storage -
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($624.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $2225.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 03:15 EDT-0400)

Thanks in advance!



Everything seems fine but I would shop around the RAM world a bit more! There are times I have often found that buying a 32GB RAM set cost more than buying to seperate pairs of 16GB RAM. Look for a deal. pcpartpicker is not always up to date on the very latest prices or deals.

They may be a week or two behind, sometime! I would also have to agree on an SSD to squeeze in there and you might find sometimes there not a huge price difference between a 1TB and 2TB maybe less than half the price increase like your $60 Seagates could be $88 2TB same RPMs same 3.5" form factor!

I say thats a steal! Unless you plan to push 2560x1980 I think the increased VRAM will help you software a lot more like a GTX 770 4GB. Otherwise the GK110 chips power is being wasted on 1920x1080. Since you plan on 2 screens more VRAM helps when dealing with more resolution combines across each dedicated picture it has to generate for each screen.

I would snatch the 770s 4GB VRAM over the 780 unless you bump up the res to 2560x1440. This will save you a couple hundred dollars. Especially to buy a couple decent 1920x1080 monitros. Maybe those couple hundred will be the difference between 24" or 27' screens!

This is of course assuming you didnt buy everything already and are working away already!?
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November 5, 2013 11:41:05 AM

The Kasafist said:
Everything seems fine but I would shop around the RAM world a bit more! There are times I have often found that buying a 32GB RAM set cost more than buying to seperate pairs of 16GB RAM. Look for a deal. pcpartpicker is not always up to date on the very latest prices or deals.


Oh yeah I completely agree. For programming and compiling you want minimum 32GB which is why X79 is the ideal platform for this purpose. For the original build I don't get why 4 1TB hard drives would be used, why not just use 1 4TB hard drive? This is what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($576.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5900 2GB Video Card ($411.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($71.30 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2220.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:40 EST-0500)
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a b L Programming
November 5, 2013 2:48:17 PM

The Kasafist said:
RevWaldo said:
Hello, let's get to it - - - -

Approximate Purchase Date: this week.

Budget Range: $1500 - $2500+

System Usage from Most to Least Important: development work in machine learning, particularly recommender systems. Statistical programming in R, etc. utilizing parallel and GPU programming. Web development and graphics e.g. Photoshop. Some video editing. Didn't use the g-word, but it wouldn't hurt.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Do you need to buy OS: Win7 Pro, will also use Fedora or Ubuntu.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com but any reliable source is OK.

Location: New York, NY

Parts Preferences: none.

Overclocking: Maybe.

SLI or Crossfire: Not at this time.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2 x 1920x1080

Here's the part list so far. Looking to avoid overkill, underkill, just plain bad picks in lieu of better ones, wasting money, and so on. Budget-minded monitor recommendations would be a big help. Will probably keep this system for at least four years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($224.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 10 Storage -
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($624.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $2225.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 03:15 EDT-0400)

Thanks in advance!



Everything seems fine but I would shop around the RAM world a bit more! There are times I have often found that buying a 32GB RAM set cost more than buying to seperate pairs of 16GB RAM. Look for a deal. pcpartpicker is not always up to date on the very latest prices or deals.

They may be a week or two behind, sometime! I would also have to agree on an SSD to squeeze in there and you might find sometimes there not a huge price difference between a 1TB and 2TB maybe less than half the price increase like your $60 Seagates could be $88 2TB same RPMs same 3.5" form factor!

I say thats a steal! Unless you plan to push 2560x1980 I think the increased VRAM will help you software a lot more like a GTX 770 4GB. Otherwise the GK110 chips power is being wasted on 1920x1080. Since you plan on 2 screens more VRAM helps when dealing with more resolution combines across each dedicated picture it has to generate for each screen.

I would snatch the 770s 4GB VRAM over the 780 unless you bump up the res to 2560x1440. This will save you a couple hundred dollars. Especially to buy a couple decent 1920x1080 monitros. Maybe those couple hundred will be the difference between 24" or 27' screens!

This is of course assuming you didnt buy everything already and are working away already!?

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Yes, 32GB sets cost more than 2 16GB sets - and for a reason (or reasons) - when buying a 32GB set you are guaranteed that the sticks have all been tested to work together - with 2 16GB sets there's no guarantee they will play and a good chance they won't - that's one reason they cost more Next, since XMP is programmed by the packaged set, XMP won't work on mixed sets - even of the same model- while the base timings may be the same when you look to the advanced timing they are different - particularly the the tRFC for 2 sticks (16GB) it may use a tRFC of 208 where the 4 stick (32GB) set may require 314...so if planning to mix sets should be prepared to have to manually set up the timings and to make voltage adjustments in the event you get sets that don't want to play....Tolerance are much, much tighter in DDR3 (especially 1600 and higher freqs) than the old days of DDR2 when it was relatively simple to mix DRAM - generally see numerous instances of people with these problems daily right here at Tom's
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November 5, 2013 4:29:16 PM

g-unit1111 said:
The Kasafist said:
Everything seems fine but I would shop around the RAM world a bit more! There are times I have often found that buying a 32GB RAM set cost more than buying to seperate pairs of 16GB RAM. Look for a deal. pcpartpicker is not always up to date on the very latest prices or deals.


Oh yeah I completely agree. For programming and compiling you want minimum 32GB which is why X79 is the ideal platform for this purpose. For the original build I don't get why 4 1TB hard drives would be used, why not just use 1 4TB hard drive? This is what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($576.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler ($80.76 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme9 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($339.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($149.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5900 2GB Video Card ($411.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($71.30 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2220.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:40 EST-0500)


Well I proposed 2x 2TB HDDs because perhaps the OP wants to back up or do some type of RAID or something of the sort.
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November 5, 2013 4:30:23 PM

Tradesman1 said:
The Kasafist said:
RevWaldo said:
Hello, let's get to it - - - -

Approximate Purchase Date: this week.

Budget Range: $1500 - $2500+

System Usage from Most to Least Important: development work in machine learning, particularly recommender systems. Statistical programming in R, etc. utilizing parallel and GPU programming. Web development and graphics e.g. Photoshop. Some video editing. Didn't use the g-word, but it wouldn't hurt.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes.

Do you need to buy OS: Win7 Pro, will also use Fedora or Ubuntu.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com but any reliable source is OK.

Location: New York, NY

Parts Preferences: none.

Overclocking: Maybe.

SLI or Crossfire: Not at this time.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2 x 1920x1080

Here's the part list so far. Looking to avoid overkill, underkill, just plain bad picks in lieu of better ones, wasting money, and so on. Budget-minded monitor recommendations would be a big help. Will probably keep this system for at least four years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($224.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($299.99 @ Newegg)
RAID 10 Storage -
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($624.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $2225.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 03:15 EDT-0400)

Thanks in advance!



Everything seems fine but I would shop around the RAM world a bit more! There are times I have often found that buying a 32GB RAM set cost more than buying to seperate pairs of 16GB RAM. Look for a deal. pcpartpicker is not always up to date on the very latest prices or deals.

They may be a week or two behind, sometime! I would also have to agree on an SSD to squeeze in there and you might find sometimes there not a huge price difference between a 1TB and 2TB maybe less than half the price increase like your $60 Seagates could be $88 2TB same RPMs same 3.5" form factor!

I say thats a steal! Unless you plan to push 2560x1980 I think the increased VRAM will help you software a lot more like a GTX 770 4GB. Otherwise the GK110 chips power is being wasted on 1920x1080. Since you plan on 2 screens more VRAM helps when dealing with more resolution combines across each dedicated picture it has to generate for each screen.

I would snatch the 770s 4GB VRAM over the 780 unless you bump up the res to 2560x1440. This will save you a couple hundred dollars. Especially to buy a couple decent 1920x1080 monitros. Maybe those couple hundred will be the difference between 24" or 27' screens!

This is of course assuming you didnt buy everything already and are working away already!?

_______________________________________

Yes, 32GB sets cost more than 2 16GB sets - and for a reason (or reasons) - when buying a 32GB set you are guaranteed that the sticks have all been tested to work together - with 2 16GB sets there's no guarantee they will play and a good chance they won't - that's one reason they cost more Next, since XMP is programmed by the packaged set, XMP won't work on mixed sets - even of the same model- while the base timings may be the same when you look to the advanced timing they are different - particularly the the tRFC for 2 sticks (16GB) it may use a tRFC of 208 where the 4 stick (32GB) set may require 314...so if planning to mix sets should be prepared to have to manually set up the timings and to make voltage adjustments in the event you get sets that don't want to play....Tolerance are much, much tighter in DDR3 (especially 1600 and higher freqs) than the old days of DDR2 when it was relatively simple to mix DRAM - generally see numerous instances of people with these problems daily right here at Tom's


Thanks for clarifying that it makes perfect sense. That'll be something I take into consideration next time I see set RAM.
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November 5, 2013 4:44:09 PM

Why 4 seperate 1TB drives and not 2 2TB drives?

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November 5, 2013 4:55:31 PM

sora said:
Why 4 seperate 1TB drives and not 2 2TB drives?



I also felt the same unless the OP was after a RAID 0+1 it was pointless so I had recommended 2 2TBs instead I hope the OP did not purchase everything yet because the 2 2TBs would cost less and provide the same amount of storage capacity.
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