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October 6, 2013 3:31:56 PM

Hi,

This is my first build. The price for this seems very good right now. This looks like a solid CPU/mobo combo that will last for 3+ years and is worth a $70-100 premium over a FX-6300 build in my opinion. What do you think?

I play mostly World of Tanks and Skyrim (single threaded games I think), which is why I preferred Intel. I also do internet/productivity multitasking, nothing real multi-core intensive like media encoding or file compression, things where AMD excels at a lower price point. I am reusing a case and optical drive and buying a fan for rear heat exhaust.

Let me know what you think. I have been researching and tweaking builds for hours everyday for the last week almost, and I have learned alot thanks to this forum. I will probably buy this tonight or tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who has helped me.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1LEmD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1LEmD/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1LEmD/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi Z87W ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $641.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 18:24 EDT-0400)
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October 6, 2013 3:38:46 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $649.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 18:40 EDT-0400)

I changed you to a FX-8350. That processor will actually give you better performance than the one you had on there for an equal price.

I changed the CPU cooler to a just as cheap but more efficient one.

I changed your PSU to one that is more reliable. That is where the raise in price came from.

I would also wait to buy these until October 8 and see if there is a price drop in the Radeon graphics cards due to the release of the R9s.
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October 6, 2013 3:46:21 PM

well your rig actually looks complete but i must ask if you can get an HD 7950 witch is a better Performance per Dollar = adding another 25$ and Enjoying better performance, Graphic quality and adding a good amount of time to this rig.

Any way you choose - Enjoy !
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October 6, 2013 3:47:45 PM

thepinkanator95 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $649.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 18:40 EDT-0400)

I changed you to a FX-8350. That processor will actually give you better performance than the one you had on there for an equal price.

I changed the CPU cooler to a just as cheap but more efficient one.

I changed your PSU to one that is more reliable. That is where the raise in price came from.

I would also wait to buy these until October 8 and see if there is a price drop in the Radeon graphics cards due to the release of the R9s.


Is this with or without overclock? I prefer not to OC at least right away, maybe after the PC ages some. I have seen alot of benchmarks where the i5 beats the 8350 (particularly Skyrim), and it is a notch higher on Tom's September Gaming CPU Hierarchy chart.

Thanks for the tip on the Radeon card price. It is already coming down in price now I believe.
October 6, 2013 3:49:31 PM

charmer said:
well your rig actually looks complete but i must ask if you can get an HD 7950 witch is a better Performance per Dollar = adding another 25$ and Enjoying better performance, Graphic quality and adding a good amount of time to this rig.

Any way you choose - Enjoy !


That is a great idea, I hadn't even checked this card. The prices might come down even more this week. Good time to buy Radeon :) 
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October 6, 2013 4:05:09 PM

adamlug said:
thepinkanator95 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($153.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MK III 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $649.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-06 18:40 EDT-0400)

I changed you to a FX-8350. That processor will actually give you better performance than the one you had on there for an equal price.

I changed the CPU cooler to a just as cheap but more efficient one.

I changed your PSU to one that is more reliable. That is where the raise in price came from.

I would also wait to buy these until October 8 and see if there is a price drop in the Radeon graphics cards due to the release of the R9s.


Is this with or without overclock? I prefer not to OC at least right away, maybe after the PC ages some. I have seen alot of benchmarks where the i5 beats the 8350 (particularly Skyrim), and it is a notch higher on Tom's September Gaming CPU Hierarchy chart.

Thanks for the tip on the Radeon card price. It is already coming down in price now I believe.


Without overclock. The potential performance of the FX-8350 is much better, plus I doubt you will be playing only Skyrim for the next 5-10 years and games are already starting to push 8 cores.
October 6, 2013 11:31:23 PM

thepinkanator95 said:


Without overclock. The potential performance of the FX-8350 is much better, plus I doubt you will be playing only Skyrim for the next 5-10 years and games are already starting to push 8 cores.


Hmm, ok, just playing around here now. What do you think if this 6300 build? Weaker processor, but stronger video card. Thanks for your inputs. This decision making is really racking my brain! I am obsessing over it! So many choices... I thought I was settled on the i5, but then you come along getting me thinking again! ;) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($109.97 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $597.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-07 02:26 EDT-0400)
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October 7, 2013 10:43:18 AM

adamlug said:
thepinkanator95 said:


Without overclock. The potential performance of the FX-8350 is much better, plus I doubt you will be playing only Skyrim for the next 5-10 years and games are already starting to push 8 cores.


Hmm, ok, just playing around here now. What do you think if this 6300 build? Weaker processor, but stronger video card. Thanks for your inputs. This decision making is really racking my brain! I am obsessing over it! So many choices... I thought I was settled on the i5, but then you come along getting me thinking again! ;) 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($109.97 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($2.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $597.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-07 02:26 EDT-0400)


I would wait until tomorrow. The R9s will be released and all of AMDs graphics cards will move down in price, therefore you might be able to get a better graphics card and the FX-8350.

The PSU swap wasn't a good choice because EVGA is not as reliable as PC P&C. If you're okay with it then that's fine, but I wouldn't be okay with it.
October 7, 2013 10:54:47 AM

thepinkanator95 said:

I would wait until tomorrow. The R9s will be released and all of AMDs graphics cards will move down in price, therefore you might be able to get a better graphics card and the FX-8350.

The PSU swap wasn't a good choice because EVGA is not as reliable as PC P&C. If you're okay with it then that's fine, but I wouldn't be okay with it.


I don't know much about PSUs, but that one had good reviews. I am nowhere near a Microcenter. I didn't think this level of build needed a $90 PSU. I don't want to OC at least for awhile.

Also, I'm still thinking an i5 would be better. Can you explain further why the 8350 is better? Most benchmarks I've seen show the i5 is better. Also, does the 8350 have 8 true cores? I read somewhere that the 6350 has 3 cores with 2 integer processors per core, or something like that, rather than 6 true cores.

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October 7, 2013 8:02:20 PM
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adamlug said:
thepinkanator95 said:

I would wait until tomorrow. The R9s will be released and all of AMDs graphics cards will move down in price, therefore you might be able to get a better graphics card and the FX-8350.

The PSU swap wasn't a good choice because EVGA is not as reliable as PC P&C. If you're okay with it then that's fine, but I wouldn't be okay with it.


I don't know much about PSUs, but that one had good reviews. I am nowhere near a Microcenter. I didn't think this level of build needed a $90 PSU. I don't want to OC at least for awhile.

Also, I'm still thinking an i5 would be better. Can you explain further why the 8350 is better? Most benchmarks I've seen show the i5 is better. Also, does the 8350 have 8 true cores? I read somewhere that the 6350 has 3 cores with 2 integer processors per core, or something like that, rather than 6 true cores.


As far as the PSU, go with whatever you want.

As far as the CPU, I would stick with the FX-8350. I doubt you will be playing only Skyrim for the next few years, and the new games you will be playing will be much more threaded and the FX-8350 beats the i5 in threaded performance. The i5 you had on there will work too. From here, it becomes a personal preference.
October 9, 2013 10:56:21 PM

thepinkanator95 said:

As far as the PSU, go with whatever you want.

As far as the CPU, I would stick with the FX-8350. I doubt you will be playing only Skyrim for the next few years, and the new games you will be playing will be much more threaded and the FX-8350 beats the i5 in threaded performance. The i5 you had on there will work too. From here, it becomes a personal preference.


Thanks for all your help thepinkanator95!
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