Jerry911227 :
I plan on having a nice monitor, that being said should I invest more for higher fps? Thank you for explaining this to me I'm learning a lot. Are you saying to upgrade the CPU on the and build to the eight core 4 ghz CPU ? Would you need to upgrade the mobo also? But with all this being said... I've never gamed on a 120 hz or 240 hz so how much of a difference in picture will you notice. I can go up to 850 on the build but the extra 150 should be greatly improved however you seem very in touch with value! Thank you again!
well, see it's a value balancing act. understand all the value/performance is on the low end of the price scale. the performance of the "cheap" parts are beyond most people's needs in many cases. That a $70 cpu is effectively all the cpu you'll ever need in 99% of all games is sorta crazy when you think about it. So then you're faced with the general question... how much do i want to pay over $70? How much performance is enough? If i spend 170, i can max 99.5% of all games... and if i spend 1000 on the cpu i can max 100%... and you can spend anything in between for the rest.
it's about diminishing returns.
The same happens wiht graphics cards (which have a much bigger impact on your gaming abilities then the cpus)... at about $120 you really start to fall behind the price/performance curve. at $200 the minute gains in performance really are almost completely unjustifiable by the cash required. look at it this way.
using a HD 6670 as a baseline (100%), you can get one of these cards for $60 with 1gb of gddr5 ram. Value Factor =
1.6
150% it's performance you can get a hd 7750 for $65 Value Factor =
2.3
180% of its performance lands you at a hd 7770 for $80 Value Factor =
2.5
240% of it's performance lands you at a hd 7790 for $110 Value Factor =
2.2
300% of it's performance lands you at a hd 7850 for $120 Value Factor =
2.5
315% of it's performance lands you at a hd 7870 for $160 Value Factor =
1.9
400% of it's performance lands you at a hd 7950 for $180 Value Factor =
2.2
410% of it's performance lands you at a hd 7970 for $270 Value Factor =
1.5
500% of it's performance lands you at a GTX 780 for $700 Value Factor =
0.6
i sorta made up that metric "value factor" to illustrate my point, it's by no means perfect or amazingly accurate, but it illustrates the problem. The first 300% gain in gpu power comes by the time you hit $120, that's a 3 fold increase in gpu goodness for just twice the price of the original gpu. from that point on increases in performance get smaller and smaller while the increases in price become larger and larger. So while there is a quantifiable and measurable improvement in the gpus over the 7850, you start to wander into a noman's territory where you have to measure your own needs and your wallet, and descide when its "enough" that the gains no longer are justifiable by the price.
In the build i put together for you i gave you what i think is the best "bang" for the buck gpu out there right now... the HD7950. Frankly it's been in that sweet spot for a long time... briefly yielding up that crown to a few other gpus... such as the 7850, or the 650ti BOOST or the 660ti or the 760... but usually it's been at that point where price increases get out of hand while performance gains get scarce.
For example, for less then the cost of a GTX 770, i could get 2 7950s, and get better than titan and almost 690 or 7990 performance to boot. that's a a lot of power for little money.
ultimately, there are gains to be had. as i demonstrated you can see the GTX 780 is 5 times (probably a little more) stronger then the HD 6670, it's atleast 20% faster then the 7950... but it's also almost 4 times the price. So how much is enough?
you need to ask those questions... the difference in gpus is far more obvious then the difference between cpus. i wasn't kidding when i said a $70 cpu was all the cpu you might need this year. that as long as you were gaming on a monitor at 1080p and in 60hz, you probably don't or won't need more unless you plan to play bf4 (at which point a 6300 can do the job, which was why i used that on the amd build, your i5 can do the job too in bf4). could you spend a little more and get a z77 motherboard with a i5-3570k? sure... but even overclocked you won't see much difference. Perhaps a little here and there. perhaps a little less stuttering. but is that worth an extra $100?