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Is it worth spending between $250 and $350 on a motherboard?

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October 8, 2013 9:15:14 PM

I am going to be building a pc with its primary uses being number one gaming then adobe creative suite primarily photoshop. I have decided I will most likely go with the i7 4770k I was wondering if its worth it to drop $250-350 on a lga 1150 motherboard?

a b V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 9:17:54 PM

Only if you plan on using the features that come with a high end motherboard
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October 8, 2013 9:33:32 PM

patrick47018 said:
Only if you plan on using the features that come with a high end motherboard

If it were you what features would you be willing to pay for?
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a b V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 9:46:01 PM

That is the ridiculously overpriced one I was talking about, the "Armor" is mostly for show, if you can afford it and really want it, well it is a nice motherboard, a bit overpriced if you ask me, but hey I'm just a poor college student
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 9:50:52 PM

If you like the looks of the Formula, check the Asus Hero, very little difference other than the Armor, and built in goodies the Formula has for mobo water cooling....and just slightly more than the Pro, It's the one I decided on after about 20 assorted builds, OCs well, runs cool, good BIOS and takes everything I throw at it, which is a lot, I use it to test components for builds, upgrades and repairs, so it's seen a lot of different things and nothing phases it, run my at 4.6 with 32GB of 2666 Tridents
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October 8, 2013 9:50:54 PM

patrick47018 said:
That is the ridiculously overpriced one I was talking about, the "Armor" is mostly for show, if you can afford it and really want it, well it is a nice motherboard, a bit overpriced if you ask me, but hey I'm just a poor college student


If you had 350 bucks to blow on a mobo would you or is it sill mostly a waste and mostly for show in your opinion?
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October 8, 2013 9:52:52 PM

Tradesman1 said:
If you like the looks of the Formula, check the Asus Hero, very little difference other than the Armor, and built in goodies the Formula has for mobo water cooling....and just slightly more than the Pro, It's the one I decided on after about 20 assorted builds, OCs well, runs cool, good BIOS and takes everything I throw at it, which is a lot, I use it to test components for builds, upgrades and repairs, so it's seen a lot of different things and nothing phases it, run my at 4.6 with 32GB of 2666 Tridents

If I have the money would you recommend I get the hero over the formula?
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a b V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 9:53:10 PM

16bit said:
patrick47018 said:
That is the ridiculously overpriced one I was talking about, the "Armor" is mostly for show, if you can afford it and really want it, well it is a nice motherboard, a bit overpriced if you ask me, but hey I'm just a poor college student


If you had 350 bucks to blow on a mobo would you or is it sill mostly a waste and mostly for show in your opinion?


"IF" I had 350 bucks to blow on a motherboard, I wouldn't mind having a premium mobo, then I'd have bragging rights
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a b V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 10:09:47 PM

I personally still wouldn't waste the money there. I would much rather buy a $200 MAX (and that's if you're buying a more expensive small form factor) motherboard and spend the extra $150 on my watercooling loop, getting 8 more USB 3.0 ports, downsizing to laptop hard drives in raid... I could think of a lot of ways that I would rather spend $150 than on a prettier motherboard, and as soon as you have the computer, you'll have it too.

Bear in mind as well that the motherboard, CPU, and graphics card are going to be replaced quicker than any other part in your computer, unless something fails. It doesn't make sense to spend more money on virtually nothing but aesthetics rather than gaining a practical benefit that'll last way longer.
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 10:15:59 PM

I went through about 20 builds before deciding on the Hero, I think it's about the best Z87 out there, and the people that have picked it up seem to feel the same from the reviews at the Egg, it did have the most as well as about a 75% 5 Egg rating, hard to argue with that
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October 8, 2013 10:37:26 PM

Do you guys think these are good cheaper options?
ASRock Z87 Extreme4
Asus Z87-Plus
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming

and of those what do you recommend? i might be doing a dual crossfire at some point.

update: does anyone think this worth it it has an 86% 5 egg rating http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 10:53:08 PM

The Plus is another good mobo, then the Rock, MSI I won't touch for client builds, poor QC, the OC Formula is a good mobo - if wanting like triple SLI, though if looking at that ought to go Z&( that can handle more PCI-E lanes and get your moneys worth out of the GPUs
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October 8, 2013 11:05:41 PM

Tradesman1 said:
The Plus is another good mobo, then the Rock, MSI I won't touch for client builds, poor QC, the OC Formula is a good mobo - if wanting like triple SLI, though if looking at that ought to go Z&( that can handle more PCI-E lanes and get your moneys worth out of the GPUs

Most likely I won't do more than a duel crossfire or sli It might be nice to have to the option of an extra pcie 16.

Do you think there are any other boards I should consider?
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 11:07:36 PM

The Gryphon is a good one, a step above the Plus
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 8, 2013 11:29:48 PM

I think so, it's what I decided on and I love it, It's my primary work station and I also use it to test components for new builds, upgrades and repair rigs, haven't come across anything yet that won't run nicely with it, in it's normal set up I run 32GB of 2666 and have it OCed to 4.6...24/7...
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October 8, 2013 11:31:50 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I think so, it's what I decided on and I love it, It's my primary work station and I also use it to test components for new builds, upgrades and repair rigs, haven't come across anything yet that won't run nicely with it, in it's normal set up I run 32GB of 2666 and have it OCed to 4.6...24/7...


Thank you so much for all your help.

Is your cpu the 4770k?
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 8:08:26 AM

Yep, at 4.6
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October 9, 2013 10:31:14 AM

Tradesman1 said:
Yep, at 4.6

With a 4.6 OC how would that effect the life of the hero and the 4770k?
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a b V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 10:55:18 AM

16bit said:
Tradesman1 said:
Yep, at 4.6

With a 4.6 OC how would that effect the life of the hero and the 4770k?


If you have a good cooling system and keep your temps down it'll be fine, it is high temps that degrade components the most
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 3:27:37 PM

I OC everything, my one son is running a Q6600 (2.4 stock) from 2007 at 3.6 as a server at his place, my other son is running my Q9650 at 4.0 GHz as a secondary gaming rig and workstation, my 2500K is running 24/7 at 4.8, my 3570K runs 24/7 at 4.7 and none have failed yet....want good cooling (all are on air, not that big a fan of Liquid cooling), and a good setup, lowest voltages while maintaining stability, good components and rigs will run till they are to slow for you, thinking of giving my 2500K to one of the kids, (and I'm sure they pass their old one to someone)
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October 9, 2013 3:29:57 PM

patrick47018 said:
16bit said:
Tradesman1 said:
Yep, at 4.6

With a 4.6 OC how would that effect the life of the hero and the 4770k?


If you have a good cooling system and keep your temps down it'll be fine, it is high temps that degrade components the most


Tradesman1 said:
I OC everything, my one son is running a Q6600 (2.4 stock) from 2007 at 3.6 as a server at his place, my other son is running my Q9650 at 4.0 GHz as a secondary gaming rig and workstation, my 2500K is running 24/7 at 4.8, my 3570K runs 24/7 at 4.7 and none have failed yet....want good cooling (all are on air, not that big a fan of Liquid cooling), and a good setup, lowest voltages while maintaining stability, good components and rigs will run till they are to slow for you, thinking of giving my 2500K to one of the kids, (and I'm sure they pass their old one to someone)


How do you feel about self contained liquid coolers like the corsair h100i or h110?
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 3:48:07 PM

I don't use them, have yet to have a need for one on my builds for myself and family, if clients want LC, I offer them a screwdriver ;)  I'm long past building anything someone wants, I don't do liquid (had a couple clients screw around with LC builds and ruin them) and I only build Intel on Asus, the Rock and GB mobos,,, if some one wants to insist on LC I send them to another guy I know, or if they want to build on MSI, BioStar or the like, I'll basically tell them good luck, don't know any local builders that build on those....it's a bit of a kick in the butt to pass up an easy C-Note but it's not worth the problems I might likely encounter and have to deal with
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October 9, 2013 4:24:12 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I don't use them, have yet to have a need for one on my builds for myself and family, if clients want LC, I offer them a screwdriver ;)  I'm long past building anything someone wants, I don't do liquid (had a couple clients screw around with LC builds and ruin them) and I only build Intel on Asus, the Rock and GB mobos,,, if some one wants to insist on LC I send them to another guy I know, or if they want to build on MSI, BioStar or the like, I'll basically tell them good luck, don't know any local builders that build on those....it's a bit of a kick in the butt to pass up an easy C-Note but it's not worth the problems I might likely encounter and have to deal with


I have definitely been hearing great things about asus and i'm planning to use the hero and and the asus r9 280x. I was thinking about doing a water cooler but i didn't realize that they are likely to run into problems. What air cooler do you use and have you ran into any clearance problems with air coolers?

Im going to guess the cpu will stay cool with an air cooler at 4.6.
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 5:01:52 PM

The Hyper 212 EVO does a good job up to 4.4 - 4.5 for most if not 24/7, if 24/7 can go more and look at the Phanteks, I went with CM GTS V8 and don't regret it (had to wait, it wasn't released yet when I did my build, popped a EVO on it originally)....The CM rates right at/=/under a H100 and I run 24/7 at 4.6 and (in my spare time) hope to get up to 4.7 or 8 stable. The V8 runs $100, but I'm not complaining
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October 9, 2013 5:10:58 PM

Tradesman1 said:
The Hyper 212 EVO does a good job up to 4.4 - 4.5 for most if not 24/7, if 24/7 can go more and look at the Phanteks, I went with CM GTS V8 and don't regret it (had to wait, it wasn't released yet when I did my build, popped a EVO on it originally)....The CM rates right at/=/under a H100 and I run 24/7 at 4.6 and (in my spare time) hope to get up to 4.7 or 8 stable. The V8 runs $100, but I'm not complaining


How to the cpu temps and noise levels compare to an h100i?
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 5:15:16 PM

I haven't directly compared temps with a H100, but there was a review at Harwarecanucks that showed right close,

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

noise wise I see a fair number of H100s that are very loud in comparison, even with my case open, I don't even hear the V8
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October 9, 2013 5:26:44 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I haven't directly compared temps with a H100, but there was a review at Harwarecanucks that showed right close,

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

noise wise I see a fair number of H100s that are very loud in comparison, even with my case open, I don't even hear the V8


That is one giant impressive looking cooler.
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 6:09:23 PM

It's a big 'un, a little tight on the one mount, but no biggie
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October 9, 2013 6:35:54 PM

Tradesman1 said:
It's a big 'un, a little tight on the one mount, but no biggie

As long as it will fits i'm happy even if its tight.
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a c 1560 V Motherboard
October 9, 2013 6:39:17 PM

Fit's fine! :) 
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