Are these PC specs good enough for the games I want to play?

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Looking at this PC that someone is selling. If I get a better graphics card will it support games like Skyrim, The Elder Scrolls Online, Dragon Age: 3, Dark Souls 2, Diablo 3, Guild Wars, all games from The Elder Scrolls Anthology, etc. Preferably on a high setting? If not, what specs or PC's do would you recommend?

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AMD FX-6300 3.5 Ghz 6 core processor
MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
G. Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB video card
Rosewill RNX-N250PC2 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi adapter
Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid tower Case
Antex 450W ATX 12V power supply
 
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They're selling it for $600. It also says that it doesn't include a hard drive or dvd drive.. Which are both things that I would need? Is this a good deal or should I look elsewhere? Looking to by my first PC and it's all so confusing!

Also, what do you think about this PC? would this work? http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/4115775135.html
 

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Horrible deal if there is no hdd or disk drive, do not purchase! Plus, never buy someone's used pc (there's no warranty if something breaks).
 
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Yeah I didn't realize that until after I posted this. Is there any PC's you would recommend? I know that a lot of people say you should build your own, but I have no experience whatsoever.
 

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Build it yourself. It's actually quite easy. I just built my first desktop around 3 weeks ago and it only took around 3 hours (being that it was my first time). Just follow the instructions and you will be absolutely fine (you can always hit up tom's if you need the extra help).
 

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I second this, and you will also have a better understanding of how your system works and possibly be able to troubleshoot it if anything goes wrong, hopefully it won't. But you will know more about what can go wrong if you do it yourself.

I learned how to do it because I was tired of getting gouged by repair shops and paying top dollar for prebuilt systems with inferior components.

 

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Here this settup will max all the games you want to play 1080p for $700 -

You will need to buy a monitor, keyboard, mouse.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($77.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($224.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($32.89 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.94 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($36.24 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.00 @ Amazon)
Total: $699.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-09 18:57 EDT-0400)
 
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That all makes sense. I was originally going to build one but then I started doubting myself. I will probably just go with building one with the help of a friend. Thanks for the help guys!
 

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600$ for this and even without any warranty ?????? NOOOOOOOO DO ..NOT..BUY.
I don't know how much your planing to spend for you rig but i think may be this will help you check link.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1MT1R

 

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Dude, no offense, but the build you have in that link is horrible. The build I posted above is way more powerful and has an OS for $700.
 

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sorry mate but just 50$ less and your compromising on
FX-8xxx(8 cores) for Ath.....(4 core)
Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 ATX AM3+ for ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX ?
V6 GT Cooler master for Stock cooler
16gbs of ram for 8 gb
750 Watts 80 plus gamer one for 450 watts normal
I'm sorry but plz tell me where is the power in your rig rather then a little more in GPU?
my one 708$ .your one 653$ and difference 50$ and your considering a home edition OS as rig's power !!!!!! Plz dude???


 

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1. stock cooler is fine if your not overclocking 2. cpu I put in is for a "budget" pc and works surprisingly well 3. the asrock is more than enough, and for $50 its a steal 4. 8gb ram is plenty (16gb is overkill unless your a hardcore graphics designer) 6. 450 watt psu is perfect for a non sli or cf system (wtf 750 watts for a 7750???) 7. win7 home premium is perfect for any budget builder (plus an OS does not determine the power of your system) 8. innef (the one looking to get a pc) wants a gaming machine that will play his games preferable on high settings so why the 7750? the 7750 will give you medium settings 1080p in gaming, anything higher and your games will start to lag. Boom, that's where the 7950 comes in. Ultra settings, 1080p, no lag, it's the perfect card for a budget $700 build. Nuff said.
 
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I mean't to mark this as the solution but oh well. The arguing had me a little confused! But you (TBC1) definitely sound like you know what you're talking about vs. what he is saying.
 

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Agreed. Also, i'm pretty sure you can un-slelect and re-select best solutions or answers if you want to change it to another comment.
 

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about GPU i said it before yes it more powerful.
i'm giving him future in 50 more and your pulling him back 3 year and just giving 50 less.
he is a new bee i understand and he have no idea what he is going to do anyways you win i lose.
don't use this WTF word on forum
some say ! narrow minded leader always lead you to a rat hole........no offense
Remember my friend Gaming rigs are not built for weeks or months people build these for next few years.
only little more powerful GPU is not the thin to play on ultra setting. when your cpu is not calculating threads fast your ram is not rendering data fast then what will only mid rang gpu will do ? looking for data and relaxing !!!! these are technical things you don't understand so leave it .bro if he is going to spend then give him best for now and better for near future...enough for now is not helpful in near future.what do you think after a year your rig can handle new games even on a normal setting ? if you think yes then i'm wasting my time here.GPU is one part you can change it in future but upgrading a whole rig to play new games is it a wise thing.think out side the box.

 

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Before you guys end up fighing over whos right and wrong....the answer is both of you are wrong...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($129.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($74.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7750 2GB Video Card ($87.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $640.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 07:53 EDT-0400)

This would be your best build for around the 600 dollar mark. Every part in this system is rock solid. Sounds like both of you should do some reading in the tutorial I wrote in my sig, before you try to help other people with incorrect answers.
 

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:D now we are talking .....agreed on this for 600 doller righ .the best and then thing i was thinking i'm wrong in 700 $ rig was GPU but you also suggested that too Thanks mate.:D
 

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I agree with ddbtkd456 suggestion of a build, but it would probably be better to explain why you did pick those parts instead of those other suggestion?

Innef, if you look for benchmarks here on TomsHardware you will see that what will gain most speed (bandwith) is a RAM running at 1866 Mhz. After that it will not be that much worth to put extra money into higher rated speed on RAM.

For CPU and socket (FM2 vs AM3 or AM3+) you need to also look into what chipset there is onboard a motherboard as some chipset do support higher rated RAM (memory controller integrated onto CPU die for AMD CPU) and other don't.

The main field of GPU from AMD is HD 7750 up to HD7850 as single GPU based solution. They will be replaced with R7 260 and R9 2xx series card which use the same GPU core, but clocked higher and with more memory running on a higher bandwidth. If I would be building a system today, I would go with HD 7850 before it will be replaced with those "new" card within R7 and R9 series as it seem to be working slightly faster then 7750 and 7790 and still not need too much power from a PSU (which will add cost). A PSU within the range of 400 W up 600 W (depending the quality it can deliver on each rail for CPU and GPU).

If this is your first time building a computer, then it is also wise to watch out for what option there to reduce noise from fans, PSU fans and which cases that do not give enough space to have a god air flow. I suggest that you use http://www.silentpcreview.com/ to learn more about this.

For the argument of "building for the future" or make it possible to upgrade there is always a premium to be paid. To buy a too large PSU in Watt means that you will waste energy (pay more for when your computer is in idle or light work), have more heat to get rid off (=need to have PSU fan to work harder which also add to noise) and its efficiency might be better when it is working hard during load compared to idle/light work (as surfing, watching movie etc).

In the end you will get better answer, if you do some research first here on THG by reading on different benchmarks, both those that focus on CPU and those on GPU. Go for those games that have been benchmarked here in THG and compare what hardware that have been used on each test rigs so you get any idea of how those might work with those games and setting you want to play. It will take some time to understand benchmarks, but those a better tool to judge what is worth to spending your money on then asking for a ready build.
 
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......Ahh. Ok first of all "Alpha-Black", I wasn't really taking anyone's side. I was just saying that he sounded like he knew what he was talking about vs. what you were saying and your reasoning. Second, I'm not making any final decisions until I've done some more research, and I've realized that asking people isn't the best idea... haha. But If I were to be able to spend $800 what would you change about these specs and would it make much of a difference?
 

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What do you have from before that you will be able to use? Do you have keyboard, monitor etc?

If you have a monitor, what kind of resolution and screen size is it?
 
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I don't have anything yet. Why?
 
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I don't have anything yet. Why?