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what difference between Microsoft Windows 8.1 Retail $120 vs oem $99

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October 9, 2013 2:17:08 PM

someone told me oem like one time use so if my MB dead then i have to buy new oem and retail can reinstall to same pc or the new MB,is that true?thanks

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a b * Windows 8
October 9, 2013 2:23:54 PM

OEM is tied to your motherboard. You can replace the board if it dies with another identical board and be OK but you can't upgrade your system.

Retail can be installed on as many systems as you want as long as it's one at a time.
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a b * Windows 8
October 9, 2013 2:26:09 PM

Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.
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a c 1190 * Windows 8
October 9, 2013 2:30:42 PM

Retail gets you support from Microsoft. OEM, you're on your own.

As opposed to what it was with Windows 7, OEM is no longer tied to that first motherboard.
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a b * Windows 8
October 9, 2013 2:37:36 PM

Guess I'm behind the times. ;) 

Still happily running Windows 7.
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October 9, 2013 3:18:38 PM

getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.

so no difference between oem n retail now,right(i mean the ome like my dell window os disk so i can reinstall to new harddisk anytime i want,right )?thank you very much
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 20, 2014 6:32:14 PM

getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?
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a c 1190 * Windows 8
January 20, 2014 6:37:58 PM

TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...
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January 20, 2014 7:06:11 PM

USAFRet said:
TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...


License and License key are the same, right? Normal install, just put it in, put in the key, and install it? I'm really hesitant about this, also can you recommend a good overclockable mobo for am3+ about 100 bucks?

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January 24, 2014 9:49:14 AM

USAFRet said:
TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...


Usafret, from the link you provid, I read the Licence Agreement for 8.1 and can not find anything supporting what you say. Ok, this agreement is very vague and never mentions Motherboard but it states that it is not allowed to "transfer the software (except as permitted by this agreement)".

Moreover, 4.b states: "Re-activation: Some changes to your computer components or the software may require re-activation of the software."
and 4c "Activation failure: During online activation or reactivation, if the licensing or activation functions of the software are found to be counterfeit, improperly licensed, or include unauthorized changes, activation will fail..."

Nothing is said on how Microsoft determines if the reactivation can be allowed when changing a Motherboard or an other piece of hardware.
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a c 1190 * Windows 8
January 24, 2014 9:57:55 AM

titi_nicolas said:
USAFRet said:
TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...


Usafret, from the link you provid, I read the Licence Agreement for 8.1 and can not find anything supporting what you say. Ok, this agreement is very vague and never mentions Motherboard but it states that it is not allowed to "transfer the software (except as permitted by this agreement)".

Moreover, 4.b states: "Re-activation: Some changes to your computer components or the software may require re-activation of the software."
and 4c "Activation failure: During online activation or reactivation, if the licensing or activation functions of the software are found to be counterfeit, improperly licensed, or include unauthorized changes, activation will fail..."

Nothing is said on how Microsoft determines if the reactivation can be allowed when changing a Motherboard or an other piece of hardware.



http://download.microsoft.com/Documents/UseTerms/Window...
From the specific 8 and 8.1 License agreement:
"Can I transfer the software to another computer or user? You may transfer the software to another computer that belongs to you."

You can transfer it to a whole other computer if you wish. Which would include a different motherboard. Or CPU or hard drive, whatever.
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a c 1190 * Windows 8
January 24, 2014 10:03:01 AM

titi_nicolas said:
USAFRet said:
TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...


Usafret, from the link you provid, I read the Licence Agreement for 8.1 and can not find anything supporting what you say. Ok, this agreement is very vague and never mentions Motherboard but it states that it is not allowed to "transfer the software (except as permitted by this agreement)".

Moreover, 4.b states: "Re-activation: Some changes to your computer components or the software may require re-activation of the software."
and 4c "Activation failure: During online activation or reactivation, if the licensing or activation functions of the software are found to be counterfeit, improperly licensed, or include unauthorized changes, activation will fail..."

Nothing is said on how Microsoft determines if the reactivation can be allowed when changing a Motherboard or an other piece of hardware.


4.b. Reactivation

Yes, it may require reactivation. Nothing in there states that the re-activation will fail upon seeing new hardware.

4.c. Activation failure

If you screw with the activation and licensing features, or otherwise mess with the software, that is unauthorized. Activation may fail.
Again, nothing in there about hardware changes.
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January 24, 2014 11:37:46 AM

USAFRet said:
titi_nicolas said:
USAFRet said:
TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...


Usafret, from the link you provid, I read the Licence Agreement for 8.1 and can not find anything supporting what you say. Ok, this agreement is very vague and never mentions Motherboard but it states that it is not allowed to "transfer the software (except as permitted by this agreement)".

Moreover, 4.b states: "Re-activation: Some changes to your computer components or the software may require re-activation of the software."
and 4c "Activation failure: During online activation or reactivation, if the licensing or activation functions of the software are found to be counterfeit, improperly licensed, or include unauthorized changes, activation will fail..."

Nothing is said on how Microsoft determines if the reactivation can be allowed when changing a Motherboard or an other piece of hardware.


4.b. Reactivation

Yes, it may require reactivation. Nothing in there states that the re-activation will fail upon seeing new hardware.

4.c. Activation failure

If you screw with the activation and licensing features, or otherwise mess with the software, that is unauthorized. Activation may fail.
Again, nothing in there about hardware changes.


Actually, we were not referring to the same agreements. I was citing the 8.1OEM version and you are citing the 8 RETAIL version. Indeed, the retail version allows the user to modify its computer hardware and reinstall windows 8 without restriction (or to move the licence to another computer). The OEM version does not allow this, since the licence is bounded to a computer and not to a user. Modifying this harware computer (especially the mobo) might not allow the reactivation to work. The OEM agreement is not as clear as the Retail agreement regarding hardware changes.
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January 24, 2014 11:42:22 AM

It is more clear here:
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/p...

Q. Can a PC with an OEM Windows operating system have its motherboard upgraded and keep the same license? What if it was replaced because it was defective?

A. Generally, an end user can upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on a computer—except the motherboard—and still retain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created. Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred to the new computer, and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do not need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement motherboard is the same make/model or the same manufacturer's replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer's warranty.
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a c 1190 * Windows 8
January 24, 2014 11:57:11 AM

titi_nicolas said:
USAFRet said:
titi_nicolas said:
USAFRet said:
TheFaceOff said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


I've got win 8.1, want to change mobo but keeping pretty much everything else, do i install like normal and just put in the disk, and enter the key or do i have to buy a new version or something along those lines?


No need to buy new. Just install as usual and use your existing key.
One license, one PC.

You can check the actual license here: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/IntellectualProper...


Usafret, from the link you provid, I read the Licence Agreement for 8.1 and can not find anything supporting what you say. Ok, this agreement is very vague and never mentions Motherboard but it states that it is not allowed to "transfer the software (except as permitted by this agreement)".

Moreover, 4.b states: "Re-activation: Some changes to your computer components or the software may require re-activation of the software."
and 4c "Activation failure: During online activation or reactivation, if the licensing or activation functions of the software are found to be counterfeit, improperly licensed, or include unauthorized changes, activation will fail..."

Nothing is said on how Microsoft determines if the reactivation can be allowed when changing a Motherboard or an other piece of hardware.


4.b. Reactivation

Yes, it may require reactivation. Nothing in there states that the re-activation will fail upon seeing new hardware.

4.c. Activation failure

If you screw with the activation and licensing features, or otherwise mess with the software, that is unauthorized. Activation may fail.
Again, nothing in there about hardware changes.


Actually, we were not referring to the same agreements. I was citing the 8.1OEM version and you are citing the 8 RETAIL version. Indeed, the retail version allows the user to modify its computer hardware and reinstall windows 8 without restriction (or to move the licence to another computer). The OEM version does not allow this, since the licence is bounded to a computer and not to a user. Modifying this harware computer (especially the mobo) might not allow the reactivation to work. The OEM agreement is not as clear as the Retail agreement regarding hardware changes.


Interesting. I know I checked both versions recently, and they both said pretty much the same thing.
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July 2, 2014 7:34:01 PM

getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


OK so in theory, if I wanted to upgrade my PC I could buy everything except for a hard drive, transfer my old hard drive to the new build and have it work perfectly?
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a c 1190 * Windows 8
July 2, 2014 7:37:14 PM

Adam Nichols said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


OK so in theory, if I wanted to upgrade my PC I could buy everything except for a hard drive, transfer my old hard drive to the new build and have it work perfectly?


Not necessarily. Reinstall, yes. Have the old install automatically work with new hardware? Whole different concept.
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July 2, 2014 7:56:08 PM

Adam Nichols said:
getochkn said:
Wrong above. That changed with Windows 8. you can replace your motherboard.

the difference is OEM is supposed to be used on a new and installed by a builder. Retail is for whoever to buy and put whatever they want.

Again, Windows 8 licensing changed and you can put Windows 8 on another PC.


OK so in theory, if I wanted to upgrade my PC I could buy everything except for a hard drive, transfer my old hard drive to the new build and have it work perfectly?


Yes, except when you boot up normally, there will be a thing at the bottom right hand corner that says "build xxxx"
you can do anything you want, but that logo will be there, and occasionally a message will pop up asking for you to register windows, and to do that you have to call microsoft support, and follow the instructions it gives you. I know this because I've done this twice, upgrading my motherboard again tomorrow, going to do the same thing.
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November 24, 2014 1:29:39 AM

Maybe I'm a little late to the party, but at this very moment, the licensing agreement clearly states that a motherboard HAS to be the same make & model. If the mobo runs out of juice and dies, you're going to need another mobo of the same kind.

What I find odd is that an OEM version is not to be sold to end-users and is intended for use by system builders. If that's the case, why are the OEM versions being sold by retailers like NewEgg & Memory Express? Do they mean system builders in general or those that do it professionally because my Windows will be intended only for personal use, not for a PC being sold to someone else.
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February 25, 2015 7:24:46 PM

anort3 said:
Guess I'm behind the times. ;) 

Still happily running Windows 7.


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a b * Windows 8
February 25, 2015 10:41:11 PM

dark_arts_DA said:
Maybe I'm a little late to the party, but at this very moment, the licensing agreement clearly states that a motherboard HAS to be the same make & model. If the mobo runs out of juice and dies, you're going to need another mobo of the same kind.


No it doesn't. Some old Licensing FAQ is not the same as the license. USAAFRet is absolutely correct. This is not a topic in dispute at all. This question was settled 3 years ago. Windows 8 OEM licenses CAN BE TRANSFERRED. End of story.



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What I find odd is that an OEM version is not to be sold to end-users and is intended for use by system builders. If that's the case, why are the OEM versions being sold by retailers like NewEgg & Memory Express? Do they mean system builders in general or those that do it professionally because my Windows will be intended only for personal use, not for a PC being sold to someone else.


Because they outlets often supply system builders. Not every system builder is a volume system builder.
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a b * Windows 8
February 25, 2015 10:43:58 PM

Thread from 2013.....
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a b * Windows 8
February 25, 2015 10:44:07 PM

One big difference that has not been mentioned so far is that the full retail version can be used to perform an upgrade to an existing install. The OEM version can't be used for this purpose.
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