High End Video Editing/Gaming Rig Critique

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

Building my first computer! I've been perusing forums, benchmark sites, reviews etc etc for a few weeks and I think I've got my build list together.

Approximate Purchase Date: Within next month (Although a few parts I will be buying ASAP as the rebate offers on them expire on Newegg 10/13/13)

Budget Range: ~1600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: After Effects Compositing/Rendering, Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: All, building from scratch

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg seems to have best selection/deals but I'm in no way commited to them

Location: San Antonio, Texas

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe later

Your Monitor Resolution: I think planning on 1920x1080

Additional Comments: None

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Current PC is 2009 model, 512mb GPU...

EVGA SuperClocked w/ ACX Cooling 02G-P4-2774-KR GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130921

Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492

G.SKILL Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-16GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231511

ASUS Rampage IV Gene LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131805

CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm Fan, 1x Rear 120mm Fan, option Fans-2x Side 120mm Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

Unsure about my HDD. Will certainly be an SSD and I'd obviously like as much size as possible but my overall build cost is pretty fixed so if I need to cut costs it'll be here.

So, my question. Any cooling system recommendations given that I'll likely be OCing both my GPU and CPU? I'm fairly certain that the included fans in the Rosewill case will be nowhere near sufficient. Of course I'd like to keep my parts from frying but as I'm already near my cost I'm looking for cheap options ideally.
Aside from that, any critiques or advice anyone can give is greatly appreciated. ("your power supply is too small" "motherboard won't accept soandso" "this part sucks")

legokill101 · Oct 9, 2013

why go with sandy brige e when ivy brige e is here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116939
for video edding and in genner get the most ddr31600 ram you can get 2133 is a wast also i would avoid a micro atx and get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131804 instead and a gold powerusply is a unessaary expense and if you want cooling get this bad boy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129192

zightbaoe · Oct 9, 2013

legokill101 :

You mean ivy bridge when haswell was here right?

thepinkanator95 · Oct 9, 2013

This is your build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($563.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Gene Micro ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($266.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1527.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-09 21:42 EDT-0400)

These are my changes assuming your budget is around $1750:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4771 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($174.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.78 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1479.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-09 21:49 EDT-0400)

I changed the CPU because despite the former having 6 cores, this actually has 8 threads and the Haswell outperforms Sandy Bridge to a point where the 2 extra cores are just for show.

I gave you an ATX motherboard to maximize future upgradability.

I gave you the same RAM but with a lower CAS latency.

I added good hard drive options for you.

I gave you a full tower that will give you the maximum airflow throughout all your components.

I gave you a cheaper and more reliable PSU with the same wattage.

I added an optical drive for shits and giggles.

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

thepinkanator95 :

My primary logic behind the six cores is the fact that After Effects supports simultaneous processing of multiple frames on separate cores, but has to set 2 cores aside. So a quadcore would only allow for 2 simultaneous frames. Also there's the fact that the 4771 doesn't have the unlocked multiplier but honestly if you think it's that much faster I don't much care.
I was originally looking at Rampage IV Pro then changed to Gene to cut price. The motherboard you suggest looks great to me, I'm actually surprised how low the price is. It's fine enough quality to last me?
Case looks nice, power supply looks nice, and definitely like those HDD options!
You'd say that CPU cooler is a necessity and also sufficient? Will I need another for the GPU?

Thanks very much for the speedy response and input.

thepinkanator95 · Oct 9, 2013

Two Wolf Jirou :

thepinkanator95 :

My primary logic behind the six cores is the fact that After Effects supports simultaneous processing of multiple frames on separate cores, but has to set 2 cores aside. So a quadcore would only allow for 2 simultaneous frames. Also there's the fact that the 4771 doesn't have the unlocked multiplier but honestly if you think it's that much faster I don't much care.
I was originally looking at Rampage IV Pro then changed to Gene to cut price. The motherboard you suggest looks great to me, I'm actually surprised how low the price is. It's fine enough quality to last me?
Case looks nice, power supply looks nice, and definitely like those HDD options!
You'd say that CPU cooler is a necessity and also sufficient? Will I need another for the GPU?

Thanks very much for the speedy response and input.

Your computer won't recognize cores, rather it will look at the threads. The 6 core has 6 threads, while this i7 actually has 8 (2 per core). You can also unlock the CPU by yourself, it just doesn't come shipped unlocked.

The CPU cooler is necessary for overclocking, and yes this one will do what you need it to do.

The GPU has a fan built into the board so no you won't need a cooler for it.

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

thepinkanator95 :

Two Wolf Jirou :

thepinkanator95 :

My primary logic behind the six cores is the fact that After Effects supports simultaneous processing of multiple frames on separate cores, but has to set 2 cores aside. So a quadcore would only allow for 2 simultaneous frames. Also there's the fact that the 4771 doesn't have the unlocked multiplier but honestly if you think it's that much faster I don't much care.
I was originally looking at Rampage IV Pro then changed to Gene to cut price. The motherboard you suggest looks great to me, I'm actually surprised how low the price is. It's fine enough quality to last me?
Case looks nice, power supply looks nice, and definitely like those HDD options!
You'd say that CPU cooler is a necessity and also sufficient? Will I need another for the GPU?

Thanks very much for the speedy response and input.

Your computer won't recognize cores, rather it will look at the threads. The 6 core has 6 threads, while this i7 actually has 8 (2 per core). You can also unlock the CPU by yourself, it just doesn't come shipped unlocked.

Okay, fantastic. In that case I'll probably just switch it out for 4770k for simplicity's sake. Thanks for your help man.

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

Should I drop my RAM to DDR3 1600 so I don't have to overclock? or if I'm overclocking would it be better to get 2400 instead of 2133? I don't really know what these numbers mean in terms of speed.

For instance this seems pretty appealing at that price and CAS
Patriot Viper 3 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-pv316g160c9qk

thepinkanator95 · Oct 9, 2013

Two Wolf Jirou :

Honestly, you could get away with 1866, but I wouldn't go lower than that. If you can afford the 2133 get it. That is the clock speed of the memory (how fast it can save instructions from the CPU). I wouldn't go higher than 2133 because than the CAS slows you down. The ones I found are an excellent balance of high clock speed and low CAS latency.

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

Okay hopefully this is my last question. I'm seeing the operating voltage for the RAM you reccomended is baaaaaaaaarely above the haswell recommendation. Pretty sure that .15V difference won't do any harm?

thepinkanator95 · Oct 9, 2013

Two Wolf Jirou :

I'm sorry I didn't even look at that. You don't want to go above 1.5V as it voids that warranty on the CPU. Here is an updated build with the correct RAM voltage.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4771 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Dominator GT 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($283.20 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.78 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1587.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-09 23:09 EDT-0400)

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

Any reason you chose Dominator over Vengeance? Appears to me to be the same thing for $100 less

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz16gx3m4a2133c9r

thepinkanator95 · Oct 9, 2013

Two Wolf Jirou :

Nope. That's just what I recommend to my Intel builders at my work (because that is what we have in the store) so I naturally jumped onto that.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4771 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($192.94 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.00 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.78 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1497.63
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-09 23:36 EDT-0400)

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

Welllll awesome! I think that's it, thanks so much for your help.

thepinkanator95 · Oct 9, 2013

No problem, just make sure to pick best answer to close the thread.

Two Wolf Jirou · Oct 9, 2013

ACTUALLY sorry haha last question. Wanna get a mobo that supports SLI in case I eventually want to get another gtx770 in there. How does the ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 sound? Compatible with everything, decent quality?
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z87extreme3

thepinkanator95 · Oct 10, 2013

Two Wolf Jirou :

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about SLI. By the time you actually need it there will be a single card that will outperform your SLI setup.

If you still want SLI, then yes that motherboard will be fine.

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