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Is it worth going with a fx 8350 instead of an i7 4770k so you can have dual gpus?

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October 9, 2013 6:32:25 PM

I am going to be building a gaming pc in the next few months and i'm debating if its better to take a cut on cpu performance so I can afford a second gpu. I really want to get the i7 4770k with the asus hero motherboard with a r9 280x but I could only get the one graphics card.

Does anyone think its worth it to take the hit to cpu performance and get the fx 8350 and use the money I saved to get another r9 290x? If so what motherboard do you recommend?

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October 9, 2013 6:35:21 PM

Yes. The GPUs will be doing the bulk of the work. The FX-8350 is not a bad CPU either and might jump ahead of the i7s here soon with games beginning to take advantage of threading.
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October 9, 2013 6:37:14 PM

what resolution are you using? if your using only 1080p, there is no need for more then 1 gpu. You should get a good cpu, and later, you can always add in a second gpu.
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October 9, 2013 6:38:40 PM

thepinkanator95 said:
Yes. The GPUs will be doing the bulk of the work. The FX-8350 is not a bad CPU either and might jump ahead of the i7s here soon with games beginning to take advantage of threading.


No its not a bad cpu just a little behind the 4770k. The 4770k also has 8 threads.

I haven't done any research on amd motherboards does anyone have any ideas?
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October 9, 2013 6:40:27 PM

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what resolution are you using? if your using only 1080p, there is no need for more then 1 gpu. You should get a good cpu, and later, you can always add in a second gpu.


Most likely 1080x1200.
Only one even if I want to be able to play next gen games on max settings?
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October 9, 2013 6:46:07 PM

Why not just get an i5, which is going to perform EXACTLY the same as an i7? (the only things it's missing are hyperthreading, which doesn't make a difference for gaming, and a tiny amount of L3 cashe.)

Instead of letting that money burn a hole in your pocket, get an i5, a not-overpriced motherboard (The extreme 4 is an excellent option), and the two graphics cards you want.
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October 9, 2013 6:47:33 PM

DarkSable said:
Why not just get an i5, which is going to perform EXACTLY the same as an i7? (the only things it's missing are hyperthreading, which doesn't make a difference for gaming, and a tiny amount of L3 cashe.)

Instead of letting that money burn a hole in your pocket, get an i5, a not-overpriced motherboard (The extreme 4 is an excellent option), and the two graphics cards you want.


I am also using adobe creative suite regularly.
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October 9, 2013 6:48:37 PM

Don't forget about the i5-4670k. No huge difference in games compared to the i7 at $100 less. Overclocks just as well too.

Edit: Couldn't find a benchmark with Adobe CS comparing the 4th gen i5 to the 8350, but this review on the 8350 has it against the 3rd gen, and it trades blows. Considering the 4th gen gets a mild ~5% increase in performance over the 3rd gen, it makes it just as good as an option as the 8350, if not better for CS6 as well... at nearly half the TDP.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-rev...
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October 9, 2013 6:58:26 PM

Might start off with the 280X or 290X and see if you even need another GPU...and then if you do they should cost less and can add another
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October 9, 2013 7:02:33 PM

I will just go intel and start with one gpu.
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October 9, 2013 7:09:42 PM

Don't get the FX 8350, it will bottleneck those GPU's!
Tom's tested it back in January with two 7970's, vs. an i7-3770K.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-core-i7-377...
(& remember the R9-280X is just a 7970 refresh... marketing).
And I agree with the i5 recommendation, if you need to save money. But an Asus Hero based rig with an i7 would be very nice.
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October 9, 2013 7:26:38 PM

Have a feeling you'll be MUCH happier with the Intel, keep us updated ;) 

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October 9, 2013 7:54:49 PM

wdmfiber said:
Don't get the FX 8350, it will bottleneck those GPU's!
Tom's tested it back in January with two 7970's, vs. an i7-3770K.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-core-i7-377...
(& remember the R9-280X is just a 7970 refresh... marketing).
And I agree with the i5 recommendation, if you need to save money. But an Asus Hero based rig with an i7 would be very nice.

Thats crazy how much better the intel performs in crossfire than the 8350, but i'm not surprised.

I know it pretty much just a rebadge but you essentially get a 7970 ghz for the same price as a regular 7970.
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October 9, 2013 7:57:57 PM

Does anyone think that getting the i5 4670k instead of the 4770k will cause problems with next gen games using more threads? If so, does it justify the extra $100 for the i7?
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October 9, 2013 8:04:17 PM

Nope. Not worth it.

Hyperthreading applies to double-precision calculations, not the less precise (but easier and perfectly fine for what the uses are) floating-point calculations used in games.
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October 9, 2013 8:10:52 PM

I know this build does not have a case and I am using a 7970 as a stand in for the r9 280x but I would like some feedback on it.


Thank you all for all your help, I really appreciate it.

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October 9, 2013 8:19:40 PM

There are little places I could make critiques and save money, but the only one that really stands out to me is the power supply.

$200 for something lower quality than a Seasonic OEM? Seriously? That's a rip-off.

You also don't need that much power any more. Even with an overclocked CPU and two overclocked flagship cards, an 850w unit is MORE than enough.
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October 9, 2013 8:20:43 PM

Hate to say it, but it's all wrong, what you should do is.................. ;)  just kidding, looks good think you'll be very happy with it ;) 
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October 9, 2013 8:32:16 PM

DarkSable said:
There are little places I could make critiques and save money, but the only one that really stands out to me is the power supply.

$200 for something lower quality than a Seasonic OEM? Seriously? That's a rip-off.

You also don't need that much power any more. Even with an overclocked CPU and two overclocked flagship cards, an 850w unit is MORE than enough.


I was thinking about a seasonic but It was more expensive. Are seasonics that much better?
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October 9, 2013 8:43:23 PM

Then you're looking at the wrong seasonic. :p 
They're almost always cheaper and better. They also provide MORE power, cleaner power, and better efficiency than they're rated for, rather than struggling to even provided the rated wattage.

I would recommend cheaper models in most cases, but this is just about THE best power supply ever made. I personally own two of the the 650w versions, and I'll throw some links to reviews that show why.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A couple reviews:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article986-page1.html
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October 9, 2013 8:53:36 PM

DarkSable said:
Then you're looking at the wrong seasonic. :p 
They're almost always cheaper and better. They also provide MORE power, cleaner power, and better efficiency than they're rated for, rather than struggling to even provided the rated wattage.

I would recommend cheaper models in most cases, but this is just about THE best power supply ever made. I personally own two of the the 650w versions, and I'll throw some links to reviews that show why.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A couple reviews:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article986-page1.html


Do you think im crazy if I do this psu I know its overkill i'm jsu very paranoid about having enough power with two gpus and overclocking.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 9, 2013 8:59:59 PM

Having too much power is better than not enough, and for $20, why not? unless you need it elsewhere, never know might fall into a better rig or just look to upgrade big time, and would already have it
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October 9, 2013 9:00:19 PM

You can do that if you want, but you seriously don't need it. 850w will be MORE than enough. Here's a conservative estimate of what you'd need.

System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: Regular - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket LGA 1150
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3400 MHz Haswell
Overclocked: 4200 MHz, 1.3 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: AMD Radeon HD 7970
Video Card 2: AMD Radeon HD 7970
Video Type: Crossfire


HDD 7200 rpm: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
DVD-RW/DVD+RW Drive: 1 Drive
USB: 2 Devices
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High Performance: 2 Fans 120mm;
Water Cooling Kit: Corsair Hydro H100
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 90 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 10 %

Minimum PSU Wattage: 591 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 641 Watts
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October 9, 2013 9:05:31 PM

DarkSable said:
You can do that if you want, but you seriously don't need it. 850w will be MORE than enough. Here's a conservative estimate of what you'd need.

System Type: 1 physical CPU
Motherboard: Regular - Desktop
CPU Socket: Socket LGA 1150
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3400 MHz Haswell
Overclocked: 4200 MHz, 1.3 V
CPU Utilization (TDP): 90% TDP
RAM: 2 Sticks DDR3 SDRAM
Video Card 1: AMD Radeon HD 7970
Video Card 2: AMD Radeon HD 7970
Video Type: Crossfire


HDD 7200 rpm: 1 HDD
Flash SSD: 1 Drive
DVD-RW/DVD+RW Drive: 1 Drive
USB: 2 Devices
Fans
High Performance: 2 Fans 120mm;
Water Cooling Kit: Corsair Hydro H100
Keyboard and mouse: Yes
System Load: 90 %
Capacitor Aging (+ W %): 10 %

Minimum PSU Wattage: 591 Watts
Recommended Wattage: 641 Watts


I see your point.
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October 9, 2013 9:11:12 PM

I mean, I'm just saying...
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October 9, 2013 10:15:37 PM

DarkSable said:
I mean, I'm just saying...

It will have less power consumption than I though with OC'ing I probably should just go with the 850W.
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