Should I buy Alienware?

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aj2013

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And by that I don't mean straight from there website because I agree it's overpriced. I have 600 pound to get a PC to play next gen games at 1080p, don't have to be totally maxed out I will accept High, but anything less than that no.

I've been playing around a while and I found manufacture refurbished Alienware, and it seems they put an i5 in it. But here are the Alienware specs;

i5 4430s
8GB Ram
GTX 645 (this is what I'm worried about?)
1 TB HDD

then is has all those other features Alienware have like when you play games the cpu automatically clocks to turbo, the colors built in wifi, mouse and keyboard comes with it to.

For 569.99

Now for the same price I had together
AMD FX 6300
8GB Ram
AMD 7950
1 TB
Then the power supply, case etc.

It seems my custom build obviously has better gpu, but Alienware has better CPU, and it comes with all the nice features. Should I get that Alienware and just upgrade GPU after?

 
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As others have stated, the 7950 will blow the 645 out of the waters completely, it's like trying to take out a forest fire by pissing up against a tree, ain't gonna happen.

The alienware cases look nice on the outside, inside I'm not sure but that's the only positive. I sternly believe that you should put functionality ahead of looks, so build your own in this case.
 
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Yeah I was just watching some vids, 645 has trouble even with BF3, plus upgrading is hard, and if I have to upgrade the moment I get it seems pointless. Well thanks making me come to my senses. But I found another pre-built one, but this time it seems to have really nice parts, is it worth the money? :) apperently it was worth 1000 and it's limited time only now

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-I5-3570K-Quad-Core-Gaming-Pc-Computer-1tb-16Gb-Nvidia-GTX-760-2GB-Van-B-/140914437165?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item20cf27ac2d
 
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The CPU is about £190, the GPU is £190-210, the mobo about £50 plus no SLI options for future upgrades, and the case about £40. All in all I'd say that PC is worth £500 ish, and even then not worth it for £500 as you can get better alternative hardware for a bit more.
 
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I did go through everything part for part, and the one on ebay was 660, building it would cost me 690. So maybe it is a good deal? aslong as I can overlock the cpu, just to 4.2 turbo I'll be happy tbh. Then I can just throw in an ssd.
 
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Yeah I never heard it before but don't that '80+ bronze' mean it's really good?
 
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No problem. the motherboard is very limited. No sata6 (so no properly fast SSD speeds), OLD chipset (designed for sandy bridge CPUs and manually updated with a bios flash to 'work' with ivy bridge, no overclocking options at all and poor power phases making overclocking impossible anyway.

These prebuilts always cut alot of corners.
 
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Just some input here too. Prebuilts cutting corners is an understatement, they are practically round.
 
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Also, don't forget it does not include windows.

The EBAY listing is a joke. They advertise USB 3.0 like crazy but the case only supports usb2. Also, the listing says that it includes 2 80mm fans and 2 120mm fans. Then a few lines down it says 4 120mm fans. The side of the case clearly has 2 80mm fans in the picture.

This company is a joke.
 
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aj2013

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lmao seems so man. Well I have a max of £700/$1100, what do you recommend?

I just want a nice PC with all the features I'll ever need, heavy gaming, I won't be doing much else, at 1080p.

I mean all the extra's like liquid cooling, SSD, LED fans, I could just get those sometime down the road, or if I have money left over.
 
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build your own.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£99.21 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£38.20 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£66.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£184.00 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: XFX 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£34.99 @ Maplin Electronics)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£11.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £700.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 06:24 BST+0100)

everything you could want or need. SSD + large HDD, big air cooling, led bling fans, overclockable cpu on a board good for overclocking, high quality psu, a high powered modern gpu. all for 700.

 
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Thanks for the reply, I had actually been doing this for past half hour, what do you think of this, it's only £10 more than your build and apparently this motherboard is the best in world in terms of gaming.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£75.00 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£112.64 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£47.41 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£173.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (£38.64 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£35.34 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £710.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 06:42 BST+0100)
 
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I prefer air cooling. and I think you'll miss the SSD
 
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I'm not so sure on that PSU brand, never heard of their PSU's. Check several reviews on it to make sure it wont fail you. Otherwise while 450 watts will last you, PSU capacitors age. Meaning if it aged 10% in a year, by next year your PSU will only out put 405 watts. So it's good to buy one with some headroom, ofc it's rare for you to draw 100% power on most games regardless with that system. Also the motherboard has 3 slots for GPU's right? Does it support crossfire? If so, with another 7950 for a future upgrade your PSU as it is now, will not be able to supply your system running at 90% of max load.

If you want to keep your system future proof, add a few extra watts to account for a new GPU upgrade (I foolishly got a mobo with one gpu slot, so when it came to upgrading my system I had to either purchase a new mobo + GPU or new GPU entirely).

Personally I'd recommend waiting for AMD's new GPU's, and getting a PSU strong enough for a future GPU upgrade. + An SSD.
 
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