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October 10, 2013 1:52:33 AM

Hello everyone. After the feedback I got in my first post for a gaming PC, I have finally come up with a build that I'm happy with. Though, now I have a couple of nagging questions I want out of the way before buying.

Will the PSU be sufficient, and are there better alternatives? How much power would I actually need to for this single GPU setup?

Is Asus' GTX 770 a good choice, or are there other brands that would be better? Should I stick with the 2GB version, or go with one that has 4GB?

Will I benefit from investing in a bigger heatsink, or will I be fine with the stock model that comes with the CPU?

Other than that, is my build solid enough? I'm an amateur when it comes to hardware, and it'll be the first time I build my own PC from scratch, so I don't know if everything is compatible, or if I picked the proper parts.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£110.24 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£73.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£137.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.71 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£308.70 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case (£116.69 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£76.38 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£12.74 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1073.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 09:58 BST+0100)


Help and recommendations will be highly appreciated.

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October 10, 2013 4:42:38 AM

Hi. Couple things can be done better..

Something like this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£39.74 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£109.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£124.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£87.12 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (£330.78 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£123.74 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1047.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 12:41 BST+0100)

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Will the PSU be sufficient, and are there better alternatives? How much power would I actually need to for this single GPU setup?


Yes. 650w is bit small for future SLI or CF. 750-850w is better choice. New corsair RM is awesome PSU.
Really good efficiency and really nice looking flat cables. Fan is not spinning under 40% load so it is really quiet. You can take 750w but for future that extra 100w is good to have.

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Is Asus' GTX 770 a good choice, or are there other brands that would be better? Should I stick with the 2GB version, or go with one that has 4GB?


Asus is good. Sure it is better have 4GB if you have money to buy that.
Gigabyte and Xotac are good cards too. Zotac gives you 5years warranty when you register your card.

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Will I benefit from investing in a bigger heatsink, or will I be fine with the stock model that comes with the CPU?

Yes. It gives you more OC and maybe more silent working PC. More reliable too because it keeps temperatures lower. And that is good.

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Other than that, is my build solid enough? I'm an amateur when it comes to hardware, and it'll be the first time I build my own PC from scratch, so I don't know if everything is compatible, or if I picked the proper parts.


You are OK but sure you can make things better if you want to :) 

Here is other optin for good cpu cooler.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalright-Rev-A-Cooler-Silen...


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October 10, 2013 9:58:19 AM

AxlFone said:
Hi. Couple things can be done better..

Something like this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK 68.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£39.74 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£109.04 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£63.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£124.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£87.12 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (£330.78 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£123.74 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1047.38
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 12:41 BST+0100)

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Will the PSU be sufficient, and are there better alternatives? How much power would I actually need to for this single GPU setup?


Yes. 650w is bit small for future SLI or CF. 750-850w is better choice. New corsair RM is awesome PSU.
Really good efficiency and really nice looking flat cables. Fan is not spinning under 40% load so it is really quiet. You can take 750w but for future that extra 100w is good to have.

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Is Asus' GTX 770 a good choice, or are there other brands that would be better? Should I stick with the 2GB version, or go with one that has 4GB?


Asus is good. Sure it is better have 4GB if you have money to buy that.
Gigabyte and Xotac are good cards too. Zotac gives you 5years warranty when you register your card.

Quote:
Will I benefit from investing in a bigger heatsink, or will I be fine with the stock model that comes with the CPU?

Yes. It gives you more OC and maybe more silent working PC. More reliable too because it keeps temperatures lower. And that is good.

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Other than that, is my build solid enough? I'm an amateur when it comes to hardware, and it'll be the first time I build my own PC from scratch, so I don't know if everything is compatible, or if I picked the proper parts.


You are OK but sure you can make things better if you want to :) 

Here is other optin for good cpu cooler.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalright-Rev-A-Cooler-Silen...




Thanks for the reply.

The PSU you proposed does look interesting, and you do raise a fair point, so I think I may just go with 850W instead of 650W, as I have been thinking about doing SLI with two GTX 770's in the future. But the RM is pretty steep when it comes to pricing, and I don't have enough money for it unless I cut somewhere else. So I thought about just sticking with the TX850 instead.

The RAM are interesting, and definitely cheaper, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference whether I have CL8 or CL9 RAM. So I may just go with them. I've got to save where I can if I'm going to buy a GTX 770.

As for the rest, I doubt I'll need a more expensive CPU Cooler, especially if I'm going to go with a larger PSU, since I won't have the money for that much, unfortunately. And I may just stick with a 2GB GTX 770 for that reason as well.

But thank you for your recommendations. I'll have to think about them some more.
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October 10, 2013 10:24:04 AM

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The PSU you proposed does look interesting, and you do raise a fair point, so I think I may just go with 850W instead of 650W, as I have been thinking about doing SLI with two GTX 770's in the future. But the RM is pretty steep when it comes to pricing, and I don't have enough money for it unless I cut somewhere else. So I thought about just sticking with the TX850 instead.


ow you have to understand one thing. That new RM is really good quality. It do have Platinum level efficiency. It is just under rated to gold efficiency. TX is not nowhere near as good as the RM. Now PSU is your systems heart. Do not save on that :)  It is like youd have sports car with scooter motor :D 

Id save from HDD or somewhere else. Like that cpu cooler. If you look HX then that is OK buy. But still RM is better than HX.

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The RAM are interesting, and definitely cheaper, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference whether I have CL8 or CL9 RAM. So I may just go with them. I've got to save where I can if I'm going to buy a GTX 770.


Sure Cl8 is better. But is it so much better that Id pay more. No. Both can do same job just fine. For SLI 770'syou need really good PSU. They are really power and wattage hungry cards.
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As for the rest, I doubt I'll need a more expensive CPU Cooler, especially if I'm going to go with a larger PSU, since I won't have the money for that much, unfortunately. And I may just stick with a 2GB GTX 770 for that reason as well.


Well best is come and ask if there is better parts to pick just when you push the buy button :)  I was glad to help you get better build :)  Hope I did :) 
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October 10, 2013 2:23:03 PM

AxlFone said:
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The PSU you proposed does look interesting, and you do raise a fair point, so I think I may just go with 850W instead of 650W, as I have been thinking about doing SLI with two GTX 770's in the future. But the RM is pretty steep when it comes to pricing, and I don't have enough money for it unless I cut somewhere else. So I thought about just sticking with the TX850 instead.


ow you have to understand one thing. That new RM is really good quality. It do have Platinum level efficiency. It is just under rated to gold efficiency. TX is not nowhere near as good as the RM. Now PSU is your systems heart. Do not save on that :)  It is like youd have sports car with scooter motor :D 

Id save from HDD or somewhere else. Like that cpu cooler. If you look HX then that is OK buy. But still RM is better than HX.

Quote:
The RAM are interesting, and definitely cheaper, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference whether I have CL8 or CL9 RAM. So I may just go with them. I've got to save where I can if I'm going to buy a GTX 770.


Sure Cl8 is better. But is it so much better that Id pay more. No. Both can do same job just fine. For SLI 770'syou need really good PSU. They are really power and wattage hungry cards.
Quote:
As for the rest, I doubt I'll need a more expensive CPU Cooler, especially if I'm going to go with a larger PSU, since I won't have the money for that much, unfortunately. And I may just stick with a 2GB GTX 770 for that reason as well.


Well best is come and ask if there is better parts to pick just when you push the buy button :)  I was glad to help you get better build :)  Hope I did :) 


Ah, all right. I'll have to look into it and see if I can fit that PSU in somehow. If I go with the RAM you suggested, I can save a bit there, so it should be fine, despite me going slightly over budget.

But pfft, I knew it was going to happen the moment I decided to go for a GTX 770 over a GTX 760. I might even drop the CPU cooler, as you suggested, until I plan on actually overclocking, as I just don't have the money currently to go with everything. Besides, I can always upgrade later down the line when the stock cooler has had its fun, I suppose.

So, thank you very much for the help you've provided. I appreciate it very much.
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October 10, 2013 10:29:31 PM

MauriciusRex said:
AxlFone said:
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The PSU you proposed does look interesting, and you do raise a fair point, so I think I may just go with 850W instead of 650W, as I have been thinking about doing SLI with two GTX 770's in the future. But the RM is pretty steep when it comes to pricing, and I don't have enough money for it unless I cut somewhere else. So I thought about just sticking with the TX850 instead.


ow you have to understand one thing. That new RM is really good quality. It do have Platinum level efficiency. It is just under rated to gold efficiency. TX is not nowhere near as good as the RM. Now PSU is your systems heart. Do not save on that :)  It is like youd have sports car with scooter motor :D 

Id save from HDD or somewhere else. Like that cpu cooler. If you look HX then that is OK buy. But still RM is better than HX.

Quote:
The RAM are interesting, and definitely cheaper, I guess it doesn't make much of a difference whether I have CL8 or CL9 RAM. So I may just go with them. I've got to save where I can if I'm going to buy a GTX 770.


Sure Cl8 is better. But is it so much better that Id pay more. No. Both can do same job just fine. For SLI 770'syou need really good PSU. They are really power and wattage hungry cards.
Quote:
As for the rest, I doubt I'll need a more expensive CPU Cooler, especially if I'm going to go with a larger PSU, since I won't have the money for that much, unfortunately. And I may just stick with a 2GB GTX 770 for that reason as well.


Well best is come and ask if there is better parts to pick just when you push the buy button :)  I was glad to help you get better build :)  Hope I did :) 


Ah, all right. I'll have to look into it and see if I can fit that PSU in somehow. If I go with the RAM you suggested, I can save a bit there, so it should be fine, despite me going slightly over budget.

But pfft, I knew it was going to happen the moment I decided to go for a GTX 770 over a GTX 760. I might even drop the CPU cooler, as you suggested, until I plan on actually overclocking, as I just don't have the money currently to go with everything. Besides, I can always upgrade later down the line when the stock cooler has had its fun, I suppose.

So, thank you very much for the help you've provided. I appreciate it very much.


I'm pleased. Once you understood my idea. About which is the better power supply.
Good luck with your build :) 

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