Amd vs Intel
I am needing to build a budget computer... Should I go Amd or Intel... Wich cpu.. I mostly us my gaming for Aces High 2. I just know that Intel is really expensive
If you want to save money then check out AMD their stuff is usually comparable to intel but they don't waste money on advertising campaigns. Intel motherboards are the first to have new upgrades like pci-express 3.0 ports but most of the time the upgrades are more advanced then the software you plan to use with it anyways AMD boards are nice because by the time they receive the updates that the intel boards get early they tend to have the bugs worked out of it by then and release a much better more reliable out of the box product.
Intel generally provides better performance, AMD is a better value for CPUs.
I can't really recommend anything specifically-I don't know much about AMD CPUs-but I would consult this list: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
and if none of the Intel CPUs are in your price range, research/buy the best AMD that you can afford.
For a budget of $750 USD, you could build something like this (includes OS):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($153.61 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.01 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master i700 700W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($85.98 @ Outlet PC)
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-10 15:38 EDT-0400)
Some parts like the case, are obviously up to your own discretion and what you prefer. I tried doing a build with an i5, but in order to leave room for future upgrades (possible dual GPU's etc.) the Intel build was pushing the budget and would have required sacrifice in GPU performance. This AMD build will give you more features for the same money, albeit at the cost of a little less powerful CPU.
LtCondor said:I am needing to build a budget computer... Should I go Amd or Intel... Wich cpu.. I mostly us my gaming for Aces High 2. I just know that Intel is really expensive
"Expensive" is relative. The higher price is generally justified by the performance they provide. What is your overall budget?
For example, about two weeks ago someone post a question about upgrading his PC which has a Core i7-920 that he bought back in 2008. He specifically stated that he did not want to pay "Intel Price!!!". He was looking at either the A10-6800k or the FX-8320 because he believed he could save money and get better performance by switching to AMD.
I provided him with several game benchmarks which focused on how well those CPU perform in the various games with either the GTX Titan, GTX 690, Radeon HD 7970, etc. In all those benchmarks the A10-6800k got slammed, no contest. The FX-8320 either provided the same performance, slightly better performance or slightly worse performance. Overall, the performance was the same on average. He decided not to upgrade, thus he saved money... with his 5 year old Intel CPU.
I just spent best part of £500 on a ROG board, an i5 4670K and corsair vengeance 2133mhz memory. Performance gain over FX6300 with 990FX sabertooth and 1600mhz DDR3 = nil in games. Waste of money even though all the benchmarks I did on HWbot will say otherwise (except for Firestrike Extreme) because Skyrim played worst at the same graphics settings.
The reason is because I only have 1gb graphics memory and the Intel board runs PCI express x8 when crossfiring my HD 6870's thus causing more choppyness when needing to use the system memory. 990FX chipset makes both slots x16 so not so bad and really smooth at Ultra settings with 2x AA at 720p resolution.
Switching back to a single card making the intel setup x16 again solved the problem and I now have identical performance with one card to what I had crossfired, (I tried more AA and higher res but it won't have it) even so I'm not happy about having to buy another card to make the other "upgrades" worthwhile when I could have just bought a 7950 3gb card for £180 in the first place. My 4670K i5 cost over £170 where I got a deal on a new delivered FX6300 for £67. The i5 is better (will be with a good card) but nowhere near twice as good making it poor value in my book to the point I'm more of an AMD fanboy than I was before I bought it (but I had to know).
I've had a couple of i3's which were alright until the hyperthreading tied them up (works computers, SAGE, website work lots of stuff open etc) they aren't a patch on the AMD quad (socket FM1 or 2 Athlon type APU) I use now.
On a budget the FX6300 is the sweetest performance price point for games by miles, only drawback I found was they are useless with nvidia cards and only seem to work well with 1600mhz memory at CL9. You can go tighter and faster but will see no gains and have less stability. Mine overclocks to 4.3ghz and will run 24/7 without altering the voltage although I wouldn't go that fast on a cheapo board.
Phenom II quads are good too if you can get a black edition at a decent clock, and if you need to scrape the bottom of the barrel the Athlon II x3 are surprisingly ok but make sure its at least 3ghz before you even overclock. Graphics wise 7850 2gb (£106) if you are going new or 2nd hand 6870 2gb (£60) or a Nvidia GTX 560 ti 2gb (£75) but I wouldn't recommend the 6300 with nvidia.
A cheap setup with a £20 aftermarket cooler a £40 case with fans, a £45 branded PSU with 500w and 36amps or more on the 12volt rail will see you through a winter. I rate those seagate momentus hybrid drives as well. I built a cheapo system 4 years ago and have been upgrading ever since, my rig is like Triggers broom! Once you get into it it never ends and you will find yourself writing in forums like this to pass the time on a cold windy night when you've got a lot of answers and are bored of playing games.