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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 8:48:05 AM
a c 1392 U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 8:55:42 AM

It is a mistake on the Asus specks will get corrected when available. The Gigabyte is slightly faster than the MSI until they fix the Asus specs I do not know.
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October 11, 2013 8:58:33 AM

The assus matrix has the faster core clock right out of the gate but thats not to say it will have the highest after all of them are overclocked later. I tend to think that gigabyte cards have the best cooling implementations witch allows their cards to perform better at higher clocks (<--opinion). The two asus cards seem to have the highest effective ram speeds (memory clock). its almost a toss up really. but im sure someone is about to get super technical with you and delve deep into it when they are all basically based off the same card and when all is said and done, one may get a tad more frames
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:02:41 AM

The information for the two ASUS cards is incorrect. They will all be 384 bit. The asus card with the core clock of 1100mhz, if that is the correct information, would be the best one to go with.

This one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Gigabyte card has the same boost clock and a possible more quiet cooling solution, but their cards have historically had reliability issues, especially with the fans on the card.

You can get the same card pretty much for a bit cheaper if you go with a 7970 ghz edition, they are the same cards with slightly different stock configurations.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:04:21 AM

Those are all pretty much the same, the performance difference between them will be negligible imo. The bandwidth specs are a mistake I believe. You really aren't gonna notice much of a difference between different makes of the same card IMO. Any out of the box advantages are easily made up for with tweaking and OCing. I trust the coolers on ASUS and Gigabyte for good overclocks, as I've had problems with MSI cards over heating in the past. And the display outputs are different on some of them, noticed one of the ASUS cards didn't have HDMI, so be sure the card you pick has the outputs you need.
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October 11, 2013 9:08:07 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Those are all pretty much the same, the performance difference between them will be negligible imo. The bandwidth specs are a mistake I believe. You really aren't gonna notice much of a difference between different makes of the same card IMO. Any out of the box advantages are easily made up for with tweaking and OCing. I trust the coolers on ASUS and Gigabyte for good overclocks, as I've had problems with MSI cards over heating in the past. And the display outputs are different on some of them, noticed one of the ASUS cards didn't have HDMI, so be sure the card you pick has the outputs you need.


I concur

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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:11:43 AM

They all are fine cards and will be extremely close in performance since the clocks are all pretty much the same. Just know the Asus matrix will take three slots up which usually kills the ability to crossfire them later. I'm not sure how you define "best" because for me it must perform, be fairly quite, and not take up three slots. On the noise front I would guess the ASUS cards would be the quietest due to the two larger fans but that is just an opinion.

Newegg just has typos for the ASUS MATRIX-R9280X. For correct specs you can go to the Asus site: https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/#...

Edit: Didn't see the MSI card t first. I have been turned off by MSI issues but the cooler does look like it would perform.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:12:41 AM

kgrevemberg said:
bdiddytampa said:
Those are all pretty much the same, the performance difference between them will be negligible imo. The bandwidth specs are a mistake I believe. You really aren't gonna notice much of a difference between different makes of the same card IMO. Any out of the box advantages are easily made up for with tweaking and OCing. I trust the coolers on ASUS and Gigabyte for good overclocks, as I've had problems with MSI cards over heating in the past. And the display outputs are different on some of them, noticed one of the ASUS cards didn't have HDMI, so be sure the card you pick has the outputs you need.


I concur



Im starting to lean towards this one now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... because its 384 bit ( the 256 is a mistake because thats what you guys told me) and clock is great , mhz is high :)  Do you all agree that the asus matrix is the way to go?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:15:49 AM

JamesSneed said:
They all are fine cards and will be extremely close in performance since the clocks are all pretty much the same. Just know the Asus matrix will take three slots up which usually kills the ability to crossfire them later. I'm not sure how you define "best" because for me it must perform, be fairly quite, and not take up three slots. On the noise front I would guess the ASUS cards would be the quietest due to the two larger fans but that is just an opinion.

Newegg just has typos for the ASUS MATRIX-R9280X. For correct specs you can go to the Asus site: https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/#...

Edit: Didn't see the MSI card t first. I have been turned off by MSI issues but the cooler does look like it would perform.


what do you mean 3 slots? It takes up all 3 GPU slots? Impossible. I dont get it

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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:18:06 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Those are all pretty much the same, the performance difference between them will be negligible imo. The bandwidth specs are a mistake I believe. You really aren't gonna notice much of a difference between different makes of the same card IMO. Any out of the box advantages are easily made up for with tweaking and OCing. I trust the coolers on ASUS and Gigabyte for good overclocks, as I've had problems with MSI cards over heating in the past. And the display outputs are different on some of them, noticed one of the ASUS cards didn't have HDMI, so be sure the card you pick has the outputs you need.


i dont know what out puts i need...UGH I JUST FOUND OUT IT WILL COST 350$! I said 310 max :(  damn

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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:19:09 AM

Mirakledba said:


Im starting to lean towards this one now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... because its 384 bit ( the 256 is a mistake because thats what you guys told me) and clock is great , mhz is high :)  Do you all agree that the asus matrix is the way to go?


You'll be fine with that, ASUS is a good brand. This card has four display ports and two DVIs, so if you were planning on connecting with HDMI then it won't have the correct outputs, if those are correct for you though, it is a good card. The Gigabyte is available now though (no waiting for release :-P) and it has HDMI, displayport, and DVI so you would be covered no matter how your monitor hooks up. It'll fit your budget too.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:22:51 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Mirakledba said:


Im starting to lean towards this one now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... because its 384 bit ( the 256 is a mistake because thats what you guys told me) and clock is great , mhz is high :)  Do you all agree that the asus matrix is the way to go?


You'll be fine with that, ASUS is a good brand. This card has four display ports and two DVIs, so if you were planning on connecting with HDMI then it won't have the correct outputs, if those are correct for you though, it is a good card. The Gigabyte is available now though (no waiting for release :-P) and it has HDMI, displayport, and DVI so you would be covered no matter how your monitor hooks up. It'll fit your budget too.

How much will it cost? the matrix? 350? I cant pay that much. I will only pay 309$ and not more :(  If i cant get the matrix should i get the gigabyte, or the other asus thats non matrix?
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a c 1392 U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:22:57 AM

Mirakledba said:
JamesSneed said:
They all are fine cards and will be extremely close in performance since the clocks are all pretty much the same. Just know the Asus matrix will take three slots up which usually kills the ability to crossfire them later. I'm not sure how you define "best" because for me it must perform, be fairly quite, and not take up three slots. On the noise front I would guess the ASUS cards would be the quietest due to the two larger fans but that is just an opinion.

Newegg just has typos for the ASUS MATRIX-R9280X. For correct specs you can go to the Asus site: https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/#...

Edit: Didn't see the MSI card t first. I have been turned off by MSI issues but the cooler does look like it would perform.


what do you mean 3 slots? It takes up all 3 GPU slots? Impossible. I dont get it



Card fits in one slot but because of the size of the cooler it blocks another two slot spaces below the slot it is in.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:25:24 AM

rolli59 said:
Mirakledba said:
JamesSneed said:
They all are fine cards and will be extremely close in performance since the clocks are all pretty much the same. Just know the Asus matrix will take three slots up which usually kills the ability to crossfire them later. I'm not sure how you define "best" because for me it must perform, be fairly quite, and not take up three slots. On the noise front I would guess the ASUS cards would be the quietest due to the two larger fans but that is just an opinion.

Newegg just has typos for the ASUS MATRIX-R9280X. For correct specs you can go to the Asus site: https://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/MATRIXR9280XP3GD5/#...

Edit: Didn't see the MSI card t first. I have been turned off by MSI issues but the cooler does look like it would perform.


what do you mean 3 slots? It takes up all 3 GPU slots? Impossible. I dont get it



Card fits in one slot but because of the size of the cooler it blocks another two slot spaces below the slot it is in.


yeah but how much will it cost? Because i cant pay more than 309$ if the asus matrix is out of my budget, wat should i get? Gigabyte or the other asus thats not matrix.
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a c 1392 U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:27:16 AM

I would buy an Asus card before Gigabyte but that is my personal brand preference.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:31:35 AM

rolli59 said:
I would buy an Asus card before Gigabyte but that is my personal brand preference.


Yeah me too, but since the ASUS isn't released yet, and seems to be over the OP's budget, I'd go with the Gigabyte. $299 and you can probably get the shipping for free if you sign up for shoprunner.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:33:28 AM

bdiddytampa said:
rolli59 said:
I would buy an Asus card before Gigabyte but that is my personal brand preference.


Yeah me too, but since the ASUS isn't released yet, and seems to be over the OP's budget, I'd go with the Gigabyte. $299 and you can probably get the shipping for free if you sign up for shoprunner.


Guys dont worry about the release. I still need 250$ before i can get it all so i can wait. So if the matrix is over my budget then ill get the gigabyte but what about the OTHER asus one?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:36:13 AM

Guys....my pc case i might get is 109$..I might switch it to a cheaper one and get the best 280x which is the Sapphire toxic. Not sure yet.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:37:18 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Mirakledba said:

yes but how much is it? There are 2 asus's. The matrix is how much and the non matrix one is how much?

Matrix http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

normal http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Since those cards haven't been released yet, we aren't sure of the pricing, haven't been able to find a reliable reference.


Might change the PC case to a cheaper one so i can afford another 50$ to get the toxic 280x

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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:38:33 AM

nvm i need that case
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:38:52 AM

Mirakledba said:
Might change the PC case to a cheaper one so i can afford another 50$ to get the toxic 280x


What case are you working with now?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:41:16 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Mirakledba said:
Might change the PC case to a cheaper one so i can afford another 50$ to get the toxic 280x


What case are you working with now?


this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is what ima get

I DONT HAVE A PC. THIS WILL BE MY FIRST BUILD.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:44:51 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Mirakledba said:
Might change the PC case to a cheaper one so i can afford another 50$ to get the toxic 280x


What case are you working with now?


look....the cpu i will get is an i5 4670k but i dont have to OC it right away.....The CPU cooler is 62$. Maybe i shouldnt get the CPU cooler now ad get it when i have enough money and then OC, and just get this as the GPU http://www.anandtech.com/show/7406/the-sapphire-r9-280x... ? 360$
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:55:09 AM

I would honestly get a card that are $50 cheaper. That extra $50 for the VaporX really isn't worth it imo. Get the Asus DCU II TOP, it has a longer warranty and they are a super reliable make. Any minimal performance increase you get from that VaporX can be made up by OCing the Asus yourself. It is a huge pain installing an aftermarket CPU cooler after your system is already built, so much better to put that in during the initial build...
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 9:57:31 AM

bdiddytampa said:
I would honestly get a card that are $50 cheaper. That extra $50 for the VaporX really isn't worth it imo. Get the Asus DCU II TOP, it has a longer warranty and they are a super reliable make. Any minimal performance increase you get from that VaporX can be made up by OCing the Asus yourself. It is a huge pain installing an aftermarket CPU cooler after your system is already built, so much better to put that in during the initial build...


Its ok. Ill have someone build the whole PC for me. But whats wrong with this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

i dont need to OC...It will be a while till i NEED to OC. Its not the vapor X. If i am going to pay 360 for the asus, id rather pay for the toxic since its like the 780. Its ok and that gpu is amazing right?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 10:08:07 AM

The ASUS (non matrix) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... from what I can see is 50$ cheaper than the VaporX. Listed on AnandTech for 309$. I'm just saying that the VaporX isn't worth the extra 50$. You can buy the Asus for $309 and OC it yourself and it will perform just as good as the VaporX, for $50 less, with a better warranty... That is what I would do anyway :-/ I just have a problem with paying for factory overclocks, you can always overclock yourself for free.
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 10:15:10 AM

bdiddytampa said:
The ASUS (non matrix) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... from what I can see is 50$ cheaper than the VaporX. Listed on AnandTech for 309$. I'm just saying that the VaporX isn't worth the extra 50$. You can buy the Asus for $309 and OC it yourself and it will perform just as good as the VaporX, for $50 less, with a better warranty... That is what I would do anyway :-/ I just have a problem with paying for factory overclocks, you can always overclock yourself for free.


Im not paying for the OC. I just like it. Just tell me this, is it an amazing GPU?
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 10:19:40 AM

Mirakledba said:
Im not paying for the OC. I just like it. Just tell me this, is it an amazing GPU?


The only difference between that card and the others is the OC, so yes, that extra $50 is paying for the OC :-P It is a good card I'm sure, it is just over priced lol :-)
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 10:27:06 AM

bdiddytampa said:
Mirakledba said:
Im not paying for the OC. I just like it. Just tell me this, is it an amazing GPU?


The only difference between that card and the others is the OC, so yes, that extra $50 is paying for the OC :-P It is a good card I'm sure, it is just over priced lol :-)


not really overpriced. Its like a 780 but 350$ cheaper :) 
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a b U Graphics card
October 11, 2013 10:34:18 AM

Mirakledba said:
not really overpriced. Its like a 780 but 350$ cheaper :) 


lol not sure where you are getting that it is like 780 :-/ but enjoy your card man, you are gonna have fun with it either way :-D
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