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October 11, 2013 10:37:20 AM

Hey Guys,

So I'm putting together my first (gaming) pc and I want it to be able to blow away next gen consoles as well as be able to run a bunch of minor applications (ie. internet explorer, utorrent etc, no photoshop or video stuff other than VLC haha). SOOO i wanted to know if this build will be able to do that.

Case: Corsair Carbide Series Black 500R Mid Tower Computer Case
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.4 GHZ 6 MB Cache
or should I go for the i7-4770k for a longer life next gen competition?
Motherboard: Asus Z87 PRO LGA 1150 Motherboard
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800)
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 WF 3X GHz Edition 3GB GDDR5
PSU: Corsair Professional Series HX 750 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Gold
Hard-drive: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB HDD SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 7200 RPM
SSD: Samsung Electronics 840 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5-Inch SATA III
Optical Drive: Samsung 24x SATA DVD¡ARW Internal Drive
Mouse: ROCCAT Kone XTD
KeyBoard: Corsair Vengeance K60

1) Should I get a sound card?
2) Good gaming monitor suggestion?
3) Should I get 1 7970 now and another later or two 7950's now?

Thanks guys

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October 11, 2013 10:44:06 AM

1.) Not unless the onboard sound isn't good enough for you. Might as well hold off and try the onboard first.

2.) This depends on you. What types of games do you like? FPS then go for a 144 Hz Asus. Not FPS then go for a 2560x1440 monitor.

3.) Get a R9-280x. It's cheaper than the 7970 GHz and a little cheaper.


Now for my own suggestions:

CPU:
Get the 4670k. I bet that by the time you need 8 threads in games the 4770k will be obsolete.

RAM: Get 2x4 GB set for now. Get another set later when you need it. RAM is expensive at the moment.

Get a HSF. 212 evo is the common cheap recommendation. Noctua NH-D14 is a better option if you want to pay for it. Everything else looks good.
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October 11, 2013 10:46:47 AM

Build look's good, have some feedback for you though - 1. get the i5 instead of the i7 (i5 performs just as well as the i7 when gaming), 2. Wait for amd's r9 280x to drop (it's way more powerful than the 7970), 3. I wouldn't even bother with a sound card.

As for the monitor choice I have two
1. (1080p) - http://www.amazon.com/VN247H-P-24-Inch-Screen-LED-Lit-M...
2.(1440p) - http://www.amazon.com/QNIX-QX2710-Evolution-LED-Monitor...

btw - I have the 1080p display I listed there and it's awesome for everyday use/gaming.
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October 11, 2013 10:54:47 AM

wanderer11 said:
1.) Not unless the onboard sound isn't good enough for you. Might as well hold off and try the onboard first.

2.) This depends on you. What types of games do you like? FPS then go for a 144 Hz Asus. Not FPS then go for a 2560x1440 monitor.

3.) Get a R9-280x. It's cheaper than the 7970 GHz and a little cheaper.


Now for my own suggestions:

CPU:
Get the 4670k. I bet that by the time you need 8 threads in games the 4770k will be obsolete.

RAM: Get 2x4 GB set for now. Get another set later when you need it. RAM is expensive at the moment.

Get a HSF. 212 evo is the common cheap recommendation. Noctua NH-D14 is a better option if you want to pay for it. Everything else looks good.


Now as awesome as the R9-280x looks I think it may be out of my price range to be honest. With the graphics card I'm looking for the best price vs performance I can get keeping in mind that I don't want to have to replace anything for at least 3 years (adding another card is fine but not replacing).

Also I pretty much play anything if it looks really good but I expect a decent mix of RTS, FPS and maybe a bit of MMO but not much. So is there a good in between monitor. And while I obviously want good framerates to stay competitive I want any game to look glorious more than I want a stupid high framerate. Thanks for the response.
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October 11, 2013 10:55:27 AM

smorizio said:
when your on parts picker look at the cosair lp ram it should be on sale with combo deals i seen the 1866 ram and 2100 ram on sale for the same price as the 1600.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m2a...


I'd go with 4x4 sets of ram rather than 2x8.
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October 11, 2013 10:58:20 AM

smorizio said:
when your on parts picker look at the cosair lp ram it should be on sale with combo deals i seen the 1866 ram and 2100 ram on sale for the same price as the 1600.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m2a...


I'm a little confused as to how much of a performance increase I'm going to see when using ram higher that 1600 like the 1866 and 2100? I mean I guess if it's the same price might as well but I just fail to understand the differences.
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October 11, 2013 10:59:55 AM

I'd recommend a 2560x1440 27" IPS. I have one and love it. The R9-280x is ~$300. You could get a cheaper motherboard if you want. Asrock Extreme 4 Z87 would be good for crossfire and cheaper. Faster RAM isn't worth the price increased. I'd only get faster RAM if it was the same price.
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October 11, 2013 11:00:24 AM

MeTheBigShow said:
wanderer11 said:
1.) Not unless the onboard sound isn't good enough for you. Might as well hold off and try the onboard first.

2.) This depends on you. What types of games do you like? FPS then go for a 144 Hz Asus. Not FPS then go for a 2560x1440 monitor.

3.) Get a R9-280x. It's cheaper than the 7970 GHz and a little cheaper.


Now for my own suggestions:

CPU:
Get the 4670k. I bet that by the time you need 8 threads in games the 4770k will be obsolete.

RAM: Get 2x4 GB set for now. Get another set later when you need it. RAM is expensive at the moment.

Get a HSF. 212 evo is the common cheap recommendation. Noctua NH-D14 is a better option if you want to pay for it. Everything else looks good.


Now as awesome as the R9-280x looks I think it may be out of my price range to be honest. With the graphics card I'm looking for the best price vs performance I can get keeping in mind that I don't want to have to replace anything for at least 3 years (adding another card is fine but not replacing).

Also I pretty much play anything if it looks really good but I expect a decent mix of RTS, FPS and maybe a bit of MMO but not much. So is there a good in between monitor. And while I obviously want good framerates to stay competitive I want any game to look glorious more than I want a stupid high framerate. Thanks for the response.


Actually the 280x is around the same price as some 7970's and its way better. Also, the difference between the monitors is huge. One is 1080p while the other is 1440p (4x720p which looks stunning compared to a 1080p display). However, if you are on a budget then go for the 1080p display.
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October 11, 2013 11:06:35 AM

TBC1 said:
MeTheBigShow said:
wanderer11 said:
1.) Not unless the onboard sound isn't good enough for you. Might as well hold off and try the onboard first.

2.) This depends on you. What types of games do you like? FPS then go for a 144 Hz Asus. Not FPS then go for a 2560x1440 monitor.

3.) Get a R9-280x. It's cheaper than the 7970 GHz and a little cheaper.


Now for my own suggestions:

CPU:
Get the 4670k. I bet that by the time you need 8 threads in games the 4770k will be obsolete.

RAM: Get 2x4 GB set for now. Get another set later when you need it. RAM is expensive at the moment.

Get a HSF. 212 evo is the common cheap recommendation. Noctua NH-D14 is a better option if you want to pay for it. Everything else looks good.


Now as awesome as the R9-280x looks I think it may be out of my price range to be honest. With the graphics card I'm looking for the best price vs performance I can get keeping in mind that I don't want to have to replace anything for at least 3 years (adding another card is fine but not replacing).

Also I pretty much play anything if it looks really good but I expect a decent mix of RTS, FPS and maybe a bit of MMO but not much. So is there a good in between monitor. And while I obviously want good framerates to stay competitive I want any game to look glorious more than I want a stupid high framerate. Thanks for the response.


Actually the 280x is around the same price as some 7970's and its way better. Also, the difference between the monitors is huge. One is 1080p while the other is 1440p (4x720p which looks stunning compared to a 1080p display). However, if you are on a budget then go for the 1080p display.


Can someone help me find a link to the R9-280x because I can't seem to find where I can buy it. Also is there an older version of this card or is it just getting released? A little confused, sorry.
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October 11, 2013 11:10:08 AM

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October 11, 2013 11:13:21 AM

Oh shit thanks for the quick links guys. Well it definitely looks like a winner, but how can it be better than the 7970 ge (looking at benchmarks) and still be cheaper. Is it due to them just making so many for its launch?
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October 11, 2013 11:22:37 AM

I don't know how, but it is. Anandtech has a good review on a few 280x models. It scores between a 770 and 780 in most tests.
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October 11, 2013 11:26:51 AM

wanderer11 said:
I don't know how, but it is. Anandtech has a good review on a few 280x models. It scores between a 770 and 780 in most tests.


Well I'm now totally swayed towards the R9-280x. Now with this card and my PC setup in your opinion would you suggest a 1080p or a 1440p monitor, keeping in mind I want to run any game I play at the highest settings. Will my comp be able to handle 1440p games in all their maxed out glory?
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October 11, 2013 11:27:09 AM

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_...

right now amd and nvidia are in a bear knuckle drag out fight to stay number one in gpu sales. amd right now ended up in the new console that hitting this xmas. nvidia drop there respun 600 gpu as the 700. amd did the same with there new 7 line. they the same gpu cores just updated with faster ram and better coolers. the down side is they dont come with the game bundles. the issue now is when nvidia new 800 drop....how much faster will they be and what price point.
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October 11, 2013 11:32:00 AM

smorizio said:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_...

right now amd and nvidia are in a bear knuckle drag out fight to stay number one in gpu sales. amd right now ended up in the new console that hitting this xmas. nvidia drop there respun 600 gpu as the 700. amd did the same with there new 7 line. they the same gpu cores just updated with faster ram and better coolers. the down side is they dont come with the game bundles. the issue now is when nvidia new 800 drop....how much faster will they be and what price point.


Hmmm I can't lie, I did like the idea of the game bundle but I'm more future looking then the past so I could ultimately do without the bundle I guess. Also I'm looking to actually build around January when I have money for ALL the parts but I hve about half saved up now. Would I be better off getting an R9-280x now since its so "cheap" or waiting till i'm actually closer to my build timeframe? I only ask because I understand waiting for stuff in the tech business can get tricky and unexpected results.
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October 11, 2013 11:34:33 AM

the card will drop in price when you wait, the card not going to be fazed out for at least a year. your going to pay right now extra cost to get the newer tech. after vendor get in in stock for awhile you see the card drop in price so that a win on your build dollars.
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October 11, 2013 11:51:05 AM

Well thanks a lot for your help guys. i really appreciate it.
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