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9400GT vs Intel HD 3000 on Warcraft 3

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a b Î Nvidia
October 12, 2013 6:29:57 AM

So based from benchmark results the Intel HD 3000 should be faster than the 9400GT. However, when I play Warcraft 3 DotA, I get constant 60 FPS on 9400GT while on the Intel HD, I only get around 30-50 FPS.

Test system:

1.) Desktop PC:
CPU: Old dual core AMD Athlon clocked at 2.5ghz (I don't know the CPU version anymore)
GPU: Inno3d GeForce 9400GT (I think it's 512MB)
RAM: 2GB DDR2 RAM (not sure what mhz and what CL)
Result: 1366x768 Max Settings Constant 60 FPS

2.) Laptop:
CPU: i5-2520M
GPU: Intel HD 3000
RAM: 4GB 1333mhz RAM
Result: 1366x768 Max Settings 30-60 FPS

I want to know why the 9400GT is faster than the Intel HD 3000 when it comes to Warcraft 3. Maybe because the 9400GT has its own memory? Or because it has more shaders etc? Whoever can give me the real reason behind it will be selected as best solution.
a b Î Nvidia
October 15, 2013 7:04:17 PM

computertech82 said:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/

Basically the 9400gt is better than the intel 3000. About any video card will be better than the 3000.


I believe that too. However, on the website you linked to me, the Intel HD 3000 has a score of 305, while the 9400 GT only has 199.
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October 16, 2013 12:53:39 PM

The chart i posted is just a simple chart. Only the basics. In games, the 9400 will do better, though, not by much. It is far harder trying to find a benchmark for wow with both of those cards listed. Most ppl do not use such low-end video cards for gaming.
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October 16, 2013 1:34:01 PM

It is most likely that the drivers for the 9400gt are much better for that game than those that intel provides (intel drivers are terrible, but slowly getting better). You would also want to make sure your power options on your intel hd 3000 set-up are set to high/maximum performance and you are not running on the battery as that will throttle you significantly.
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a b Î Nvidia
October 16, 2013 8:04:48 PM

Tibbs01 said:
It is most likely that the drivers for the 9400gt are much better for that game than those that intel provides (intel drivers are terrible, but slowly getting better). You would also want to make sure your power options on your intel hd 3000 set-up are set to high/maximum performance and you are not running on the battery as that will throttle you significantly.


I agree with you, the drivers could be a possible reason.

However, I was thinking that it may be because of this:
Since the 9400gt is a dedicated card it has these advantages:
Cuda cores.
8x more texture mapping units.
4x more render output units.

Warcraft III is a relatively easy to run game because it's old. But, if you add too many units, even a GTX 780 can dip under 60 FPS.

So my conclusion is: Maybe Warcraft 3 relies on a "certain factor" that the Intel HD 3000 lacks. The Intel HD 3000 at the start of the game(when there are still few units) will have an FPS of constant 60. However, when the units start to appear, it starts to go down and fluctuate between 30-60 depending on what is happening in the game. Maybe the Warcraft 3 uses texture mapping units and render output units to process the spell effects and individual units from the game engine which the Intel HD 3000 lacks. That may also be the reason why the GTX 780 will dip under 60 FPS when there are too many units. Because the GTX 780 has limited texture output units and render output units.
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