Acer Veritron x4618g- mobo transfer/rehousing HELP!

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bravobear187

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Hello all!
I am the owner of an Acer Veritron x4618G-i7 (and no I cannot seem to find the MOBO identification, be it in BIOS or on the damn thing itself) I noticed a previous thread where a gentleman was asking about moving an Acer Veritron x4620 into a NZXT case, so I'm hoping I get some help!

Specs :
2y/o 1st owner
q65 express chipset
i7-2600@3.4 Ghz
500gb stock HDD
8 GB Patriot Sig. Series RAM (@1333 since I can't up it to 1600 due to lock on BIOS)
220W (according to CPU-Z) PSU
Small Form Factor (likely proprietary) Case, dimensions are 4x15.6x10.5 (WDH)
(again according to Cnet)

My QUESTION: Is it a complet waste of time and money to rehouse this mobo and accompanying CPU in my NZXT Source 210 case. Will I risk frying everything? What other issues can I plan to expect? I have a new PSU, GPU, Fans, can get any heatsink in 24hrs or less, so whatever parts Im missing throw it at me. I just dont want to get it all ready to assemble and find out I'm going to destroy my CPU and mobo. Should I just wait until I can afford a new mobo, and transfer my Sandy bridge CPU onto that in its new hosue with it's new GPU etc? The purpose is to extend CPU life, and keep the thing running on current software/games through tax season when I can go 4th Gen Intel and buy a new Mobo.

Tl/Dr: Moving stock pre-built into new house, Can I or Can't I? From Acer Veritron M4618G
into
New:
NZXT Source 210 Case
Fans out the wazoo(1155 socket wazoo of course)
Intel Socket 1155 bulk Heatsink (no OC'd so no big deal at this time)
ASUS HD7750 GPU (has own heat sink and doesn't draw extra power)
PSU Cooler Master 460W (best rated at time of purchase on new egg)
 
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To go back, there's no reason at all why you shouldn't. Motherboards don't effect performance that much so it will make little to no difference replacing it and that video card (HD7750) Has a very small power draw. Only about 43W so any standard power supply over 400W and 20A can handle the 7750 and your i7.
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On your computer, the "Acer Veriton X4618G". The motherboard has an Intel Q65 Express Chipset which isn't exactly the greatest chip for performance and potential. You could easily pick up a new high performance board for about $90.

The biggest problems with the factory boards that come with brands like Acer and HP are they are very cheap and overheat easily because the capacitors on them are very low quality.

Id upgrade the board no only for performance but for the longevity of your computer.

I've built 2 rigs myself in the past few months, one for myself and one for my father. The biggest thing I notices was some cases dont use motherboard standoffs so its easy to forget to put them in but make sure you use them when you swap everything over.

As far as mounting it's all universal so you don't need to worry about it fitting. The NZXT Source 210 is a full ATX case so plenty of space and compatibility.

Its good to have a tleast 2 120mm fans in or around the case in a push/pull motion. Fans bringing air into the case then rear and top fans pushing it out. Get a good CPU Cooler like the Hyper 212 which i use myself and works great on my i5 3570k. Keeps it below 45'C.
 
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Hey Nitro192, thanks for the fast repsonse and detail!

Good to know that I can (according to you) swap my i7-2600 to a newer hi-performance board for under/at $100 -> bearing in mind of course the "NEW" mobo still has to be LGA1155 to fit an i72600 on it right? I mean what use is a new mobo that can't house my still competitive CPU?
AND THEN put it in my new NZXT Source 210 case. (I get what you a re saying, do the mobo too)
x x x
However, to fully answer my current question...
Can I swap my old proprietray mobo (terrible idea or not) into my new case? Assuming I have the requisite ton of screws and standoffs available. . .
 
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Are you basically recommending I get a new mobo outright and then build around that? That means just taking the i72600 from the Acer board to "brand X" board and adding in GPU, PSU etc from there?
That sounds reasonable. However, my noob is strong and as far as I know, I simply pop out the i72600 and pop into a different LGA155 board.
Or am I missing a step?
Im trying to do this without a 2nd thread.
 
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The socket will have to be LGA1155 obviously, wouldn't be point in getting the wrong socket. And yes your old motherboard is Mini-ATX and mini-ATX boards fit in ATX cases.
 
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It isn't too difficult. I've swapped many and it's basically removing the CPU Cooler. Unclamping the CPU. Taking the CPU out very gently then putting it in the new board. Reapply the clamp then apply thermal paste and reseat the CPU Cooler.

Then it's just plugging everything back in which is easier than you'd think.
 
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Awesome!
So finally then, can you suggest some motherboards that will use an i7-2600 for what it's worth? I don't carry alot of brand bias, but I must say do I ton's of reasearch and will be very loyal to a brand after some good use.
ALSO
What do I need to know abot buying a USB 3.0 mobo, when my new case is set for 2.0 and my chipset was 2.0 and the CPU was made in teh days of 2.0.....
 
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Depending on your budget i'd recommend the ASRock Z77 Pro4 for 109.99.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157296

It's actually the same board i'm currently using and it is amazing in every aspect. Power, overclocking, Heat distribution. It keeps my i5 3570k at 45'C during gaming where my other msi board had it at 62'C in the same games and with worse performance.

So I personally recommend that one. Power, Performance, Cooling, Overclocking, UEFI Bios. It's just all around a great board. That and the Z77 chipset is the best you can get for that CPU.

I've been a big fan of ASRock because they're boards have also held up great for me and the customer service was good.

If you want to keep it low budget get the ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP for $79
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157302
 
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Outstanding reccomendations! Ill follow up on Monday by end of business. I like that you pointed up solid customer support, that's HUGE point for me. That's why PNY doesn't get my sheckles any more.
 
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HEY Nitro! Can you school me on this USB 3.0/2.0 deal?
That AsRock board, as many are is centered USB 3.0
Thats all well and fine, but my new case is USB 2.0, and so is everything else I own. Thoughts???????
I will defintely pick once I have either
A: Settled on a new Mobo per your suggestions/reccomendation
B: Found a different answer via this thread/forum.

Im shopping for Mobo's all day!
 
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They're backwards compatible, the USB 2.0 plugs coming from your case are on a plug that looks somewhat like this.
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That's the USB 2.0 plug that goes into the motherboard, you've probably seen it.

If a case has USB 3.0 then the plug that goes into the motherboard looks like this
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In this case you need a USB 3.0 motherboard to support that plug. A USB3 board has the added plug needed.

Most USB 3.0 motherboards support "both" of these plugs though so a USB3 board is a USB2 board as well. It'll still work fine with both. Most motherboards have the USB3 plugs and the USB2 plugs in the same spot like such.
asrock-p55-extreme4-006w.jpg
 
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Almost but technically it's a matched pair of 2x4, same series though, heat shield etc...
 
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SO technically my question has not been answered (see original 2 posts)
Hence not picking one best answer yet.
Most of the things suggested to me in this thread by Nitro192 although logical and plausible, either are QVL mismatched, or just not an answer to my problem/question.
Should I try and remove what COULD be a proprietary motherboard and rehouse it in a NZXTS210 case with a better PSU?
 
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To go back, there's no reason at all why you shouldn't. Motherboards don't effect performance that much so it will make little to no difference replacing it and that video card (HD7750) Has a very small power draw. Only about 43W so any standard power supply over 400W and 20A can handle the 7750 and your i7.
 
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